Mandel’s Mailbag: College Football Tiers

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The first 2 tiers are pretty reasonable, but the rest definitely have some questionable choices.
From the article:

In college basketball, there are teams that expect to advance deep into the NCAA Tournament. Others are simply happy to make it at all. If you had to put college football teams into similar tiers based on the expanded Playoff, who would fill each category?

TIER 1: Expects to compete for national titles and isn’t going to celebrate anything less.

TIER 2: Expects to make the CFP on a near-yearly basis and considers a deep run to be a success.

TIER 3: Makes the CFP every five-ish years and considers it a success to win a game or two.

TIER 4: Makes the CFP every 10-ish years and is excited to win even once.

TIER 5: Making the field is a once-in-a-lifetime experience to be celebrated, even if it gets blown out in the process. — Brian S., Buford, Ga.


Tier 1 (3) is tiny: Alabama, Ohio State and Georgia.

Tier 2 (12) comprises more programs than can pull this off, and some haven’t come close any time recently: LSU, Texas, Oklahoma, Florida, Michigan, Oregon, Penn State, USC, Notre Dame, Clemson, Florida State, Miami.

Tier 3 (10): I’m converting this to “every three to five years,” because five is a long time: Ole Miss, Texas A&M, Auburn, Tennessee, Washington, Wisconsin, Michigan State, TCU, Utah, Boise State.

Tier 4 (19): Iowa, Nebraska, Missouri, Arkansas, SMU, Louisville, Virginia Tech, North Carolina, Pitt, Baylor, BYU, Kansas State, Colorado, Cincinnati, UCF, Texas Tech, West Virginia, Oklahoma State, Washington State.

Tier 5: Everyone else, including Indiana, which happened to get its once-in-a-lifetime trip in Year 1.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/59...ource=athletic_targeted_email&userId=11702194
 



The first 2 tiers are pretty reasonable, but the rest definitely have some questionable choices.
From the article:

In college basketball, there are teams that expect to advance deep into the NCAA Tournament. Others are simply happy to make it at all. If you had to put college football teams into similar tiers based on the expanded Playoff, who would fill each category?

TIER 1: Expects to compete for national titles and isn’t going to celebrate anything less.

TIER 2: Expects to make the CFP on a near-yearly basis and considers a deep run to be a success.

TIER 3: Makes the CFP every five-ish years and considers it a success to win a game or two.

TIER 4: Makes the CFP every 10-ish years and is excited to win even once.

TIER 5: Making the field is a once-in-a-lifetime experience to be celebrated, even if it gets blown out in the process. — Brian S., Buford, Ga.


Tier 1 (3) is tiny: Alabama, Ohio State and Georgia.

Tier 2 (12) comprises more programs than can pull this off, and some haven’t come close any time recently: LSU, Texas, Oklahoma, Florida, Michigan, Oregon, Penn State, USC, Notre Dame, Clemson, Florida State, Miami.

Tier 3 (10): I’m converting this to “every three to five years,” because five is a long time: Ole Miss, Texas A&M, Auburn, Tennessee, Washington, Wisconsin, Michigan State, TCU, Utah, Boise State.

Tier 4 (19): Iowa, Nebraska, Missouri, Arkansas, SMU, Louisville, Virginia Tech, North Carolina, Pitt, Baylor, BYU, Kansas State, Colorado, Cincinnati, UCF, Texas Tech, West Virginia, Oklahoma State, Washington State.

Tier 5: Everyone else, including Indiana, which happened to get its once-in-a-lifetime trip in Year 1.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/59...ource=athletic_targeted_email&userId=11702194
Colorado a 4? This whole list is lol
 

Colorado a 4? This whole list is lol

Yes, they're in the Big 12.

The first year of the 12 team playoff they were a tiebreaker away from playing for an auto bid so seems accurate. I think we can all agree that Minnesota will never ever ever play for an auto bid and its hopes of an at-large bid will depend on who they miss each year in conference opponents.
 


Yes, they're in the Big 12.

The first year of the 12 team playoff they were a tiebreaker away from playing for an auto bid so seems accurate. I think we can all agree that Minnesota will never ever ever play for an auto bid and its hopes of an at-large bid will depend on who they miss each year in conference opponents.
It’s a team tier list. We should then put every single G5 team in that category as they could realistically be the G5 rep in any given year

Colorado hasn’t sniffed anything in decades before one year they’re borderline. Is MN post 2019 now in that tier? Iowa state? ASU? The logic just makes no sense
 


It’s a team tier list. We should then put every single G5 team in that category as they could realistically be the G5 rep in any given year

Colorado hasn’t sniffed anything in decades before one year they’re borderline. Is MN post 2019 now in that tier? Iowa state? ASU? The logic just makes no sense
Listing two thirds of the big12 in tier 3 or 4 but leaving out the best two teams in ASU and ISU is pretty laughable.
 

Yes, they're in the Big 12.

The first year of the 12 team playoff they were a tiebreaker away from playing for an auto bid so seems accurate. I think we can all agree that Minnesota will never ever ever play for an auto bid and its hopes of an at-large bid will depend on who they miss each year in conference opponents.
Never ever ever is a long time. Especially when they make huge changes to the sport every other year.
 






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