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Mullen, Edsall, Hoke, Calhoun and now Golden are out and recent news about Jagodinsky leads me to believe we're not getting any interest from anyone worthwhile. I'm on the Horton bandwagon now. Give him a one year contract and see what he can do.
 

We're gonna get someone big, or an oh s*$# hire. I'm convinced.
 

If you hire Horton, a one-year contract would be a bad idea.
 

I think it's the "I can't believe this guy was interested" Maturi mentioned.

And I think it's a big name.
 

gophmeister said:
Mullen, Edsall, Hoke, Calhoun and now Golden are out and recent news about Jagodinsky leads me to believe we're not getting any interest from anyone worthwhile. I'm on the Horton bandwagon now. Give him a one year contract and see what he can do.
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How can you be so sure Mullen is out? Because a source close to him said they would be "very surprised"?
 


Well my season tickets next year are still riding on his hire. And I know I'm not alone. I can watch crappy coaching from my living room for free. So shoot for the moon Joel...
 

Don't give up. Outside of Hoke there is no valid information that we have even been interested in any of these guys, and Hoke may have just been a convenient cover while Maturi was meeting with a coach's agent out there. I'm not even sure if there has been any official word from Hoke saying he is not interested - just a tweet from Deinhart.

My theory of the day is that we're still after a big fish, but I may just be rationalizing to try to retain my sanity.
 

It feels like we are careening into '.333% win percentage in the MAC' territory. Just sayin.'
 





I don't know where the high expectations came from on this job. I remember people saying from the start you are only going to get someone that wants to be in the twin cities, names mentioned were Scott Linehan and Mark Trestman. Coordinator or former head coach are going to be the options.
 

Fine!
If no one wants the job I'll take it.
I gonna need-
1) a D coord. who plays mostly man2man in the secondary and likes to heat up the pocket...
2) an O coord. who has a power running game, but can adapt to the talent in a given year...
3) Sp. Teams coord. to set-up KO and KR teams, but we'll go for 2 after every TD.


If you fit any of these descriptions, you can join me!
 

Chan Gailey just mentioned by one of the GI guys on the Twitter. Not sure if serious:

"I have just confirmed from a great source that Chan Gailey will be in Minneapolis later in the week"
 



FrothyGopher said:
Chan Gailey just mentioned by one of the GI guys on the Twitter. Not sure if serious:

"I have just confirmed from a great source that Chan Gailey will be in Minneapolis later in the week"
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As head coach of the Buffalo Bills
 



jovs said:
I don't know where the high expectations came from on this job. I remember people saying from the start you are only going to get someone that wants to be in the twin cities, names mentioned were Scott Linehan and Mark Trestman. Coordinator or former head coach are going to be the options.
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I know my expectations changed when rumors of 8 year contracts and $2M plus were being mentioned.

Getting a new coach can be fun, having Maturi in charge is the frightening part.
 


gophmeister said:
Mullen, Edsall, Hoke, Calhoun and now Golden are out and recent news about Jagodinsky leads me to believe we're not getting any interest from anyone worthwhile. I'm on the Horton bandwagon now. Give him a one year contract and see what he can do.
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And you honestly believe all you are reading?
 

Nobody knew Tubby was the hire. Nobody knew Brewster was the hire. Why are people freaking out?
 

mnsports1 said:
Fine!
If no one wants the job I'll take it.
I gonna need-
1) a D coord. who plays mostly man2man in the secondary and likes to heat up the pocket...
2) an O coord. who has a power running game, but can adapt to the talent in a given year...
3) Sp. Teams coord. to set-up KO and KR teams, but we'll go for 2 after every TD.


If you fit any of these descriptions, you can join me!
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I ran nothing but power-I and a 4-4 defense in NCAA football on the X-box. I think I'm qualified for any of these openings.
 

When asked by a reporter for the Daily Aztec if he would still be coaching the team for their bowl game, Hoke said,"I hope so." The reporter also says that Hoke has not denied interest in the Gopher job.

Just one example why not to believe anything. Most coaches publically deny interest in a job until it's close to being a done deal. Show me any where that any of these coaches have publically denied interest or said they wouldn't take it. If there's actually no interest, why not come out and publically state it? Why does someone need a source to tell them that a coach isn't interested? To me, it's very surprising that we haven't read hardly any (if any) clear statements of disinterest in the job.
 

Either give Horton the job or preferrably don't...

A one year coaching contract makes no sense because of recruiting. Horton is 2-19 in his last 21 games as a head coach. I'd take a chance on a untried coordinator instead of Horton. I wish him all the best, I hope he gets another head coaching opportunity, but not here.

If Horton worked at any other school and won two of his five games and had the same background we would never consider him. Just because he's here and won one big game isn't a reason to hire him.

I greatly appreciate what Horton did and give him credit for winning two more November Big Ten games then Brewster, winning one more November game then Brewster, winning one more game against ranked opponents then Brewster, and winning one more trophy than Brewster. But I don't think that speaks to how good Horton is as much as it speaks to how bad Brewster was.
 

If they do go with Horton, a 2 or three year with reasonable buyout would probably work out best and I think even he would understand that.

However, I am not sold on the thought that all the above mentioned names are out...and I also am not sure that we even know all the names being considered.
 

gophmeister said:
Mullen, Edsall, Hoke, Calhoun and now Golden are out and recent news about Jagodinsky leads me to believe we're not getting any interest from anyone worthwhile. I'm on the Horton bandwagon now. Give him a one year contract and see what he can do.
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calminnfan said:
If they do go with Horton, a 2 or three year with reasonable buyout would probably work out best and I think even he would understand that.

However, I am not sold on the thought that all the above mentioned names are out...and I also am not sure that we even know all the names being considered.
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Look, if you hire Horton you give the same basic deal as any other coach you would have hired (obviously the $$$ and buyout vary with each coach). This 1, 2, or 3 year deal stuff is nonsense. Nothing says confidence like making your new coach look like he's still the interim coach. I'm sure that wouldn't be used against him in recruiting at all...
 

Maximus said:
Nobody knew Tubby was the hire. Nobody knew Brewster was the hire. Why are people freaking out?
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I have no idea. We'll know when we know. No reason we shouldn't talk about it and discuss it. But the freakouts are getting old.

A coach will be hired. Some people will like him, some won't, and some will be meh. He will succeed or fail in his time here. None of us know any more details than that. Might be a good idea to regulate our emotions accordingly. Can't wait for this thing to be over!
 

GoAUpher said:
Look, if you hire Horton you give the same basic deal as any other coach you would have hired (obviously the $$$ and buyout vary with each coach). This 1, 2, or 3 year deal stuff is nonsense. Nothing says confidence like making your new coach look like he's still the interim coach. I'm sure that wouldn't be used against him in recruiting at all...
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3 years is a reasonable contract out of the gate for most coach who still has to establish himself. That in itself is considered a "multi-year" contract. The things Horton has going for him are basically 2 big wins at the end of the season and stabilizing and renewing confidence in the team. His previous record as a HC is not good at all.

Though he did very well at the end of the season, I am not certain that is deserving of a 4 or 5 year deal. Given another year or two, we can see how the team fares under him over a period of time, the recruiting he does and the overall direction of the program. The contract can always be renegotiated.

Like I said, he has basically 2 wins going for him...I think my suggestion is reasonable if they are going to hire him.
 


calminnfan said:
3 years is a reasonable contract out of the gate for most coach who still has to establish himself. That in itself is considered a "multi-year" contract. The things Horton has going for him are basically 2 big wins at the end of the season and stabilizing and renewing confidence in the team. His previous record as a HC is not good at all.

Though he did very well at the end of the season, I am not certain that is deserving of a 4 or 5 year deal. Given another year or two, we can see how the team fares under him over a period of time, the recruiting he does and the overall direction of the program. The contract can always be renegotiated.

Like I said, he has basically 2 wins going for him...I think my suggestion is reasonable if they are going to hire him.
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I don't have links to back it up, but I can't recall reading about a recent BCS hire that didn't start with at least a 4 year deal. A 3 year deal means that a kid you are trying to sign during the current recruiting period doesn't see a commitment from the school to have the coach he's coming to play for on campus if he's a non-RS senior. IMO, the lowest # of years you hand out is 4. You structure the deal so the buyout is less and hand out more years.
 

gophmeister said:
Mullen, Edsall, Hoke, Calhoun and now Golden are out and recent news about Jagodinsky leads me to believe we're not getting any interest from anyone worthwhile. I'm on the Horton bandwagon now. Give him a one year contract and see what he can do.
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Sparlimb said:
Well my season tickets next year are still riding on his hire. And I know I'm not alone. I can watch crappy coaching from my living room for free. So shoot for the moon Joel...
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frozengopher said:
It feels like we are careening into '.333% win percentage in the MAC' territory. Just sayin.'
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jovs said:
I don't know where the high expectations came from on this job. I remember people saying from the start you are only going to get someone that wants to be in the twin cities, names mentioned were Scott Linehan and Mark Trestman. Coordinator or former head coach are going to be the options.
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Johnny Olson said:
So no takers for (Who wants to be a millionaire)
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This is why the "casual" Gopher football fan--yes, I mean you--are really not fans at all. We do not need you. Move on. Find another team to be the fan of for a year or two. Someone will eventually take your place--someone who is a real supporter.

I would never consider giving up my tickets or stop supporting the program. I'm not a Kool-Aid drinker. I support U football because they won't go on strike and won't leave town after 2011. I support U football because I was a student and this is Minnesota's University. I support U football because I love college football and they are our team. They are a hundred more reasons, but I can't say the choice of coach is one of them.

I support whomever is coach and I support whomever is on the team. I have no say in it. That very fact precludes me from judging the coach hiring process.
 

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