Liz Cheney Slaps Down Trump's Attempt To Redefine 2020 Election As 'THE BIG LIE'


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Outside of the last sentence of the first paragraph- which I suppose was inserted to reassure R shills of your Conservative bonafides, in order to keep them reading - this post represents a view from an R that would heal both the R party and the country if more folks who felt this way would state it- and use their vote to drive the point home.

Yeah I’m not really a huge fan of how either party operates, to be honest. It was probably a poor attempt at making that point. I was trying to get in and out this morning to get back to work.

But I will say this....1/6 was an embarrassment to anybody who voted for Trump. Although many of us wouldn’t put on Vikings horns and storm the Capital, the predictable reaction from many others is to lump any and all Republicans into the “seditionist” category. This represents either an unwillingness or inability to see the difference between the morons out there and people that can think logically.

I would argue, however, 1/6 wasn’t a call by Republicans leadership to try to overthrow the election, Trump excluded. But what is happening now is an opportunity for the Republican adults in the room to stand behind what is right and try to eliminate the scourge that is 1/6, even if it means some votes in the short term and it isn’t happening. Thus my disappointment.
 

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LOL, the Dems do nothing but label their opponents with little to no intelligence being shown. They ignore economics, they ignore individual responsibility and they literally make shit up, yet you claim they are "intellectuals." You are clearly delusional.
You have more than earned it, tiny.
 

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Yeah I’m not really a huge fan of how either party operates, to be honest. It was probably a poor attempt at making that point. I was trying to get in and out this morning to get back to work.

But I will say this....1/6 was an embarrassment to anybody who voted for Trump. Although many of us wouldn’t put on Vikings horns and storm the Capital, the predictable reaction from many others is to lump any and all Republicans into the “seditionist” category. This represents either an unwillingness or inability to see the difference between the morons out there and people that can think logically.

I would argue, however, 1/6 wasn’t a call by Republicans leadership to try to overthrow the election, Trump excluded. But what is happening now is an opportunity for the Republican adults in the room to stand behind what is right and try to eliminate the scourge that is 1/6, even if it means some votes in the short term and it isn’t happening. Thus my disappointment.
Approximately 175 members of your caucus in the House and ten members of the Senate voted to overturn the election. Additionally, most of the seditionist attorneys general signed on to one of the major cases that went to SCOTUS seeking to overturn the election. Currently, many seditionist legislatures have passed voting restrictions legislation that will allow seditionist legislatures to overturn any election results that they dislike.

Consider yourselves lumped.
 

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#yabutting, #deflection, #minimization and #rationalization at a peak at the insurrection hearing by every single R that has the floor. An incredible embarrassment. Jordan from Ohio and some guy from Georgia lead the cause. Tune in. It's on live TV right now. These people should be burned at the stake.
 


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Approximately 175 members of your caucus in the House and ten members of the Senate voted to overturn the election. Additionally, most of the seditionist attorneys general signed on to one of the major cases that went to SCOTUS seeking to overturn the election. Currently, many seditionist legislatures have passed voting restrictions legislation that will allow seditionist legislatures to overturn any election results that they dislike.

Consider yourselves lumped.

Out of curiosity, what is the threshold for being “lumped”?

Two votes for Trump?
A vote in 2020?
A vote in 2016?
Once wore a GOP t-shirt?
Picked up a GOP pamphlet at the State Fair?
 

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Out of curiosity, what is the threshold for being “lumped”?

Two votes for Trump?
A vote in 2020?
A vote in 2016?
Once wore a GOP t-shirt?
Picked up a GOP pamphlet at the State Fair?
I can vouch for #3 getting you lumped. Not sure about the others?
 

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We could be in the middle of the apocalypse and these guys will still be carrying on about Liz Cheney.
 




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Out of curiosity, what is the threshold for being “lumped”?

Two votes for Trump?
A vote in 2020?
These. Feel free to announce you're leaving the party if you no longer want to be lumped.
 


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These. Feel free to announce you're leaving the party if you no longer want to be lumped.
I don't agree with this.

I find it shocking that Trump could garner any intelligent person's vote in 2020, however the Ds put up a fairly weak candidate, well past his prime. And 1/6 had not occurred.

Any upcoming vote for an R that voted to challenge the election on 1/6 in support of the Big Lie or anyone still supporting the Big Lie at this point in time, including those that voted to oust Cheney, which is a vote for the Big Lie would lump you in.

Stand up, tell those people to shut their mouths, and stand with America. Publicly. Demand the end of Don Trump's influence.

I think you can remain a Republican, while voting to get rid of the seditionists and those complicit in the Big Lie. We need a functional R party. The party led by Don Trump is not functional. It's amazingly sad.
 

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Out of curiosity, what is the threshold for being “lumped”?

Two votes for Trump?
A vote in 2020?
A vote in 2016?
Once wore a GOP t-shirt?
Picked up a GOP pamphlet at the State Fair?
I'll put the threshold as: "Agrees Liz Cheney should have lost her House Republican Conference Chair post"

I think you disagree, so you wouldn't be lumped
 




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I voted for Trump in 2020. Therefore I have been “lumped”. Sweet!
Yep, one person said so, and he speaks for the entire left side of the aisle. Great logic, Snowflake.
 


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I don't agree with this.

I find it shocking that Trump could garner any intelligent person's vote in 2020, however the Ds put up a fairly weak candidate, well past his prime. And 1/6 had not occurred.

Any upcoming vote for an R that voted to challenge the election on 1/6 in support of the Big Lie or anyone still supporting the Big Lie at this point in time, including those that voted to oust Cheney, which is a vote for the Big Lie would lump you in.

Stand up, tell those people to shut their mouths, and stand with America. Publicly. And demand that the seditionists shut up. Demand the end of Don Trump's influence.


I think you can remain a Republican, while voting to get rid of the seditionists and those complicit in the Big Lie. We need a functional R party. The party led by Don Trump is not functional. It's amazingly sad.
So it's OK to remain in the party as long as you'll only vote for Liz Cheney or Mitt Romney? Fine, but I doubt anyone who's not a Utah/Wyoming resident will ever be able to vote for them for anything again.

Which other R's are left that didn't vote to overturn the election and/or are calling out the Big Lie? Virtually everyone else is either supporting it or a coward remaining silent.

Also, you don't have to remain a member of the party to vote for a good candidate.
 


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So it's OK to remain in the party as long as you'll only vote for Liz Cheney or Mitt Romney? Fine, but I doubt anyone who's not a Utah/Wyoming resident will ever be able to vote for them for anything again.

Which other R's are left that didn't vote to overturn the election and/or are calling out the Big Lie? Virtually everyone else is either supporting it or a coward remaining silent.

Also, you don't have to remain a member of the party to vote for a good candidate.
They could support people in primaries that call out the Big Lie. And if they lose to supporters of the Big Lie, they could not vote for that person.
 


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They could support people in primaries that call out the Big Lie. And if they lose to supporters of the Big Lie, they could not vote for that person.
They could in theory. I doubt there will be any of them in most races.
 

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Snowflake? 😂😂😂😂

Doesn’t matter if it’s one person doing it or every single one of you leftists. Either I was lumped or I wasn’t? Which is it?
You were lumped in by Howie, yep. Howie doesn't speak for everyone. Snowflake.
 


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You were lumped in by Howie, yep. Howie doesn't speak for everyone. Snowflake.
Hey now! Schools has already declared me the "poster child" of the entire "left". Such power! Look out AOC and Bernie.
 


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Hey now! Schools has already declared me the "poster child" of the entire "left". Such power! Look out AOC and Bernie.
You are the poster child of the left. You are the very definition of the leftist’s flock.
 

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Snowflake? 😂😂😂😂

Doesn’t matter if it’s one person doing it or every single one of you leftists. Either I was lumped or I wasn’t? Which is it?
Let's try this, Snowflake:

1. Did Biden legitimately win the 2020 election over Don Trump?
2. Did you support the 1/6 objections to the 2020 election certification?
3. Will you vote for those that did in #2?
4. Did you support ousting Liz Cheney?
5. Will you publicly tell Don Trump to retire to his golf course business, where he can claim hole in one whenever he wants?

Please note, these are all yes/no questions.
 

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Let's try this, Snowflake:

1. Did Biden legitimately win the 2020 election over Don Trump?
2. Did you support the 1/6 objections to the 2020 election certification?
3. Will you vote for those that did in #2?
4. Did you support ousting Liz Cheney?
5. Will you publicly tell Don Trump to retire to his golf course business, where he can claim hole in one whenever he wants?

Please note, these are all yes/no questions.
Let’s try this, Idiot:

1. Yes
2. No
3. Don’t know - though I do know I will never vote for anyone from the D Party
4. Don’t care
5. If TRUMP is the R nominee in 2024 I will not vote for him
 

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Don't fool yourself. Socialism is all about totalitarian rule and mandate of the masses. It always results in voices being excluded as a small elite tells itself that it knows best and all others must follow or be silenced.
oh JHFC. Ridiculousness. You have to be pretty messed up to actually believe that Northern and Western Europeans aren't some of the freest people on earth. Canadians, too. In common, they tend to have more "socialism" than we have here. They are also generally happier people.
 
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1. Yes
2. No
3. Don’t know
4. Don’t care
5. If TRUMP is the R nominee in 2024 I will not vote for him
Kudos for actually simply answering the questions. I fully expected @Section2 - esque deflection.

I put you in the category of generally non-seditionist, assuming these are legitimate answers. I would say that you will be lumped back in, if you vote for a seditionist in #3. I'll give you a pass on #4, as you've demonstrated previously that you don't understand the hierarchy involved and aren't honest enough with yourself to examine the situation. #s 1, 2 & 5 win the day, however.
 




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