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For those of you interested in prognosticating, what should be our expectations (record-wise) for Kill in year 1?

For example, Tubby inherited one of the worst Gopher basketball teams in the history of Gopher basketball (9-22, 3-13) and turned them into a solid team in year one (20-13, 8-10). It seems to me that solid coaches seem to win fairly quickly (albeit maybe less so in football than a sport like basketball).

I guess what I'm asking is: Are we as a fan base okay with another 3 win or less season?

I for one am not, and think it reasonable to expect 4-5 wins next year.
 

Tubtastic said:
For those of you interested in prognosticating, what should be our expectations (record-wise) for Kill in year 1?

For example, Tubby inherited one of the worst Gopher basketball teams in the history of Gopher basketball (9-22, 3-13) and turned them into a solid team in year one (20-13, 8-10). It seems to me that solid coaches seem to win fairly quickly (albeit maybe less so in football than a sport like basketball).

I guess what I'm asking is: Are we as a fan base okay with another 3 win or less season?

I for one am not, and think it reasonable to expect 4-5 wins next year.
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Awfully early to start prognosticating but with the number of players we figure to have back and an easier non-conference schedule I would think bowl eligibility would be a realistic expectation. Hopefully the latest new system doesn't hold us back too much.
 

Recently at least, the very best tend to really bring their team around in year two:

Tressel (at OSU): 7-5, 14-0
Saban (at Alabama): 7-6, 12-2
Meyer (at Florida): 9-3, 13-1
Stoops (at Oklahoma): 7-5, 13-0
Carroll (at USC): 6-6, 11-2
Chizik (at Auburn): 8-5, 13-0

That said, I think we should expect to be slightly better (saying 4 or 5 wins expectation) if only because our defense, which was legendary bad last year, will be older, although we have to temper that excitement since we'll have a new starting QB. I think the fanbase will be generally forgiving in the first year as long as there's improvement and we don't lose to Iowa 55-0 or anything ridiculous like that.
 

I think 6-6 is realistic. Anything more would be great. I think the defense will be better because of their experience and hopefully better coaching. Gray's play will determine how effective the offense is.
 

I agree that its waaay to early to start legit predictions given we don't know what the state of the roster will be for the 2011 team.

But, that said its never too early to make early and meaningless ones.

If the bulk of the roster sticks (meaning we only lose 2-3 guys to transfer), I'll go with 5-7 with some strong promise leading into 2012.
 


It's too early for me to really put a "number" that I expect Kill to win but I will say that it will be really hard for me to stomach losing to another Dakota school. JK

I actually expect them to win 4-6 games next season, anything less and I will be annoyed and anything more and I will be happy.
 

At Northern Illinois, Kill inherited a 2-10 team (2007) and took them to 6-7 (2008) the next year. I'm thinking he might have a little more of a project here since Brewster's bi-polar offense was introduced (and reintroduced over & over).

I think taking his former results in to consideration, we could be a 5-7 team in 2011.
 

I definitely say that we'll be flirting with bowl eligibility next year.. but that's just me :)
 

Ok, expectations here? I expect us to go 12-0, win the Big 10, 11, or 12 or whatever it is, and be in the running for the National Championship Game which will be televised on Minnesota Public TV.
 



Tubtastic said:
For example, Tubby inherited one of the worst Gopher basketball teams in the history of Gopher basketball (9-22, 3-13) and turned them into a solid team in year one (20-13, 8-10). It seems to me that solid coaches seem to win fairly quickly (albeit maybe less so in football than a sport like basketball).
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Tubby did have three solid seniors on that team, and it's easier to turn things around in one season with hoops... Having written that, why can't he turn it around? If Brew could do it...
 

I expect 3-1 in the nonconference. At worst, 2-2. They might be good enough to win 3 Big Ten games. Iowa's going to be down, perfect time to kick them.
 

Considering the Gophers won 3 Big Ten games (and easily could have won more) in both '08 and '09, I would think that a reasonable expectation would be 6-6 or 7-5. That comes with the caveat that we have a legitimate QB on the roster.
 




Just so you all know, your prognostication will be cross referenced with the over/under 5 wins thread a while back to see who is flip flopping or changing your minds.
 

So, we're all just assuming RyeGye isn't right about the Illuminati planning 9-11? If he's right, there might not even be a season next year!!1!one!!

At this point, I'd honestly be content with three wins, provided one of them is over NDSU. We have absolutely no idea who is even going to be on the team next year so this is a pointless exercise. Plus, I'm just not sure I can handle another season of 25,000 "FIRE _______" threads, so I'm hoping we keep expectations reasonable for KILL's first year.
 

CentralGopher said:
Just so you all know, your prognostication will be cross referenced with the over/under 5 wins thread a while back to see who is flip flopping or changing your minds.
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I think that would be awesome, CentralGopher. I really made a commitment when I originally claimed it will be either over 5, under 5, or equal to 5. I am CMA with such a prognostication.
 

Gopher07 said:
Recently at least, the very best tend to really bring their team around in year two:

Tressel (at OSU): 7-5, 14-0
Saban (at Alabama): 7-6, 12-2
Meyer (at Florida): 9-3, 13-1
Stoops (at Oklahoma): 7-5, 13-0
Carroll (at USC): 6-6, 11-2
Chizik (at Auburn): 8-5, 13-0
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Those six schools are among the most talent-loaded in any given season. It's hard to compare the potential improvement curve of a new coaching staff at UM with a new coaching staff at 'Bama.
 


6 wins plus +/- 1 is what I expect. We have 3 non conference games we should win. 6 match up games USC and five conference. The match up games are teams that have enough questions that we should at least be competitive. Then we have Wisky, MSU and Nebraska which will be pretty tall orders. USC just had two of their all conference O-linemen declare for the draft. Win the games we should and split the match ups you get 6-6
 

4 to 6 sounds reasonable, but new regimes often stumble. First years can be awkward.
 

Much, much easier to turn things around in hoops quickly than in football.

I think 5 wins is very achievable and I'd be happy with that. I could live with 4 to be honest and would be extremely happy with 6 (meaning bowl eligible).
 


5 wins is realistic, 6 or 7 would be great. tough to turn around a FBS team that quickly.
 

We have talent!! But don't know if they have heart. Kill will find out and coach up ! If enough have heart 6-6.
 

Schedule:

9/3: at USC - likely loss
9/10: vs New Mexico State - likely win
9/17: vs Miami (Ohio) - toss up
9/24: vs NDSU - likely win
10/1: at Purdue - toss up
10/22: vs Nebraska - likely loss
10/29: vs Iowa - toss up
11/5: at Michigan State - likely loss
11/12: vs Wisconsin - likely loss
11/19: at Northwestern - toss up
11/26: vs Illinois - toss up

I'm going to say worst case scenario, we win 3 games. Best case, we win 7. Over/under 5. That's a risky bet.
 

HouseOfHagen said:
Schedule:

9/3: at USC - likely loss
9/10: vs New Mexico State - likely win
9/17: vs Miami (Ohio) - toss up
9/24: vs NDSU - likely win
10/1: at Purdue - toss up
10/22: vs Nebraska - likely loss
10/29: vs Iowa - toss up
11/5: at Michigan State - likely loss
11/12: vs Wisconsin - likely loss
11/19: at Northwestern - toss up
11/26: vs Illinois - toss up

I'm going to say worst case scenario, we win 3 games. Best case, we win 7. Over/under 5. That's a risky bet.
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Two disagreements with you, I put USC as a tossup, USC is already thin and just had two all conference O-linemen declare for the draft. They were also very thin on defense so I rate it a toss up. Miami of Ohio had a senior laden team, I doubt that they can just reload, I rate that one a likely win.
 

HouseOfHagen said:
Schedule:

9/3: at USC - likely loss
9/10: vs New Mexico State - likely win
9/17: vs Miami (Ohio) - toss up
9/24: vs NDSU - likely win
10/1: at Purdue - toss up
10/22: vs Nebraska - likely loss
10/29: vs Iowa - toss up
11/5: at Michigan State - likely loss
11/12: vs Wisconsin - likely loss
11/19: at Northwestern - toss up
11/26: vs Illinois - toss up

I'm going to say worst case scenario, we win 3 games. Best case, we win 7. Over/under 5. That's a risky bet.
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You're missing Michigan, but that's another that could go either way.
 


Gold Vision said:
Crean, DeChellis, Lickliter, Carmody, and Beilein disagree.
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Two to three recruits can turn around a BBall team. The same cannot be said for football. Freshman can have a much better impact early on in BBall than in football.
 


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