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Issue is the number of people accepted into our country. Take a look at the number of unaccompanieds who are accepted into our country. Their court dates take an average of 3 years to take place. It is getting so bad at the border that we are allowing families into our interior without even a court date. None of the happened under DJT. Shutting down the border refers to the number of immigrants that actually get to enter our country, but no doubt number of attempters will continue to rise under biden as well.

These are the concerns of dem border reps gonzalez and cuellar as well as the lefty mexican president, biden is called "the migrant president" for a reason. Arizona has now sent the natl guard to the border, a move approved by the dem arizona senators.

Catch phrases like "the migrant president" only prove that your entire view on the situation is directed by propaganda and ignorance. As I said....and proved with facts.....is that border apprehensions have risen month over month for over a year now. It didn't start with Biden. Your claim that Trump virtually "shut down the border" is nothing more than a joke and the kind of right wing propaganda lie that circulates with you guys. In no way relies on reality.

Doesn't mean that there isn't a major issue with illegal immigration. There is. And Biden deserves criticism for it. But this is really one of Trump's shining accomplishments??!? Too funny.
 

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Catch phrases like "the migrant president" only prove that your entire view on the situation is directed by propaganda and ignorance. As I said....and proved with facts.....is that border apprehensions have risen month over month for over a year now. It didn't start with Biden. Your claim that Trump virtually "shut down the border" is nothing more than a joke and the kind of right wing propaganda lie that circulates with you guys. In no way relies on reality.

Doesn't mean that there isn't a major issue with illegal immigration. There is. And Biden deserves criticism for it. But this is really one of Trump's shining accomplishments??!? Too funny.
Let us all take this opportunity to remember that it is ONLY the "left" that uses such phrases.
 

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He gets credit for Warp Speed and funding the development. But if he had a roll-out plan, he didn't share it with the incoming administration. Just like he didn't enable any transition at all. Because he was too busy pouting, pushing the Big Lie and ginning up his cult for the insurrection.
Gen Perna was in charge of distributing the vaccines to the states. The plan remained unchanged. CVS and Walgreens were included in the national plan long before Biden took office, but individual states determined their own priorities and unique distribution strategies b/c what’s works in NY may not in Wyoming.

Even Dr Fauci said Biden was wrong to say that there wasn’t a plan.
 

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Here is a link to southern border encounters


Trump last full month in office 74K crossings

April 2021 178K crossings

Now that Kamala has told Central America they are not welcome to illegally migrate, I'm sure June's crossing number will be significantly lower than April
 

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Catch phrases like "the migrant president" only prove that your entire view on the situation is directed by propaganda and ignorance. As I said....and proved with facts.....is that border apprehensions have risen month over month for over a year now. It didn't start with Biden. Your claim that Trump virtually "shut down the border" is nothing more than a joke and the kind of right wing propaganda lie that circulates with you guys. In no way relies on reality.

Doesn't mean that there isn't a major issue with illegal immigration. There is. And Biden deserves criticism for it. But this is really one of Trump's shining accomplishments??!? Too funny.

Doesnt matter if there are a million come to the border. Issue is how many get in. Also true that the more that are let in results in more on the way. No doubt rhe biden spike is not short term.
 


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Doesnt matter if there are a million come to the border. Issue is how many get in. Also true that the more that are let in results in more on the way. No doubt rhe biden spike is not short term.

You want to back up your claim here....or just admit that you are spewing the company line? Once again:

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Please feel free to note the rapid increase from spring of 2020....when Trump was still president. And then feel free to note that figures don't back your right wing alternate facts.
 

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You want to back up your claim here....or just admit that you are spewing the company line? Once again:

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Please feel free to note the rapid increase from spring of 2020....when Trump was still president. And then feel free to note that figures don't back your right wing alternate facts.
Thanks! I find it interesting that the unattended children numbers are relatively flat comparatively.
 

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You want to back up your claim here....or just admit that you are spewing the company line? Once again:

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Please feel free to note the rapid increase from spring of 2020....when Trump was still president. And then feel free to note that figures don't back your right wing alternate facts.point


Point is how many migrants are getting intp the country. Many unaccompanieds are now allowed in and families are being sent into the country without even a court date. Trump's stay in mexico policy was a game changer. Border dems cuellar and gonzalez agree. Lefty mexican president said shouldve stayed with trump policies.

This didnt have to be a problem, all that was needed was keep trump policies. He had the border solved, even without the wall.
 
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Not just good. He's on the list of greatest Presidents in history per Golf!

Actually have a little egg on my face as i didnt favor trump in the 2016 primary. Didnt see the historic presidency coming at all. Definitely egg on the face and a large serving of crow.
 



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Eugenics, segregation, racism, war, he’s the worst president in history, a fitting founder of your movement.
He definitely was a lousy president. However, not even close to your Donald, melvy.
 

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He definitely was a lousy president. However, not even close to your Donald, melvy.
If you think mean tweets are the worst thing a leader can do, yes, Trump was the worst leader of all time.
Adults sometimes have other considerations.
 

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DEMS: Praise Biden for stopping the wall from being built on day 1.

ALSO DEMS: Border crisis situation is Trumps fault for not getting the wall completed.

NOT DEMS: Good at logic.
 

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If you think mean tweets are the worst thing a leader can do, yes, Trump was the worst leader of all time.
Adults sometimes have other considerations.
It sounds like "mean tweets" is your new fox talking point.

Already historians have your Donald vying for last place in presidential ranking with James Buchanon and Andrew Johnson.
 



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If you think mean tweets are the worst thing a leader can do, yes, Trump was the worst leader of all time.
Adults sometimes have other considerations.
My Company President has the exact same ability to look past Trump’s 12-year old behavior and blatant dishonesty because of his entrepreneurial spirit and strong Republican beliefs. I don’t have that ability and it leads to some very interesting conversations at lunch when I’m “off the clock”.
 

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Point is how many migrants are getting intp the country. Many unaccompanieds are now allowed in and families are being sent into the country without even a court date. Trump's stay in mexico policy was a game changer. Border dems cuellar and gonzalez agree. Lefty mexican president said shouldve stayed with trump policies.

This didnt have to be a problem, all that was needed was keep trump policies. He had the border solved, even without the wall.

Got it. Right wing conjecture is more legitimate in righties eyes than actual facts. But I'll post it again for everyone who isn't completely blinded by lies.

Border apprehensions rose every month from spring 2020 through now. Problem solved? Sure....in the eyes of stolen election truthers.

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Got it. Right wing conjecture is more legitimate in righties eyes than actual facts. But I'll post it again for everyone who isn't completely blinded by lies.

Border apprehensions rose every month from spring 2020 through now. Problem solved? Sure....in the eyes of stolen election truthers.

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The issue isnt border apprehensions. The issue is how many enter the interior of our country.
Trump's remain in mexico policy was a game changer.

Now estimates are possibly close to 200,000 unaccompanieds will be welcomed into the interior of our country this year. Families are being welcomed into the interior if our country without even being given a court date. Biden has limited ICE as well. Under trump, immigrants had to "remain in mexico" while waiting for their cases to be adjudicated. Genius.
 

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The issue isnt border apprehensions. The issue is how many enter the interior of our country.
Trump's remain in mexico policy was a game changer.

Now estimates are possibly close to 200,000 unaccompanieds will be welcomed into the interior of our country this year. Families are being welcomed into the interior if our country without even being given a court date. Biden has limited ICE as well. Under trump, immigrants had to "remain in mexico" while waiting for their cases to be adjudicated. Genius.

Sure it is. The flaw in your argument is that the stay in mexico policy dissuaded immigration. The facts completely disagree with that argument.....as border apprehensions continued to rise under Trump. Does the stay in mexico policy have a large effect on illegals hoping the border? No. That's a nonsense argument that may work on the donalds....but has no basis in reality.

Want to say that Trump's policies had a positive effect on illegal immigration. Sure. That's fair. As to your claim that the issue was "solved". Good lord, man. Get a hold of yourself. That's nearly as bad a take as saying that Trump is one of the best presidents ever. Laughable.

Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas in a Tuesday memo announcing the end of the policy said he determined it had "mixed effectiveness" and did "not adequately or sustainably enhance border management in such a way as to justify the program’s extensive operational burdens and other shortfalls." Biden had ordered a review of the program’s effectiveness.

He noted that border encounters increased and decreased at different times during the program.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bi...ds-trumps-remain-in-mexico-immigration-policy
 

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Sure it is. The flaw in your argument is that the stay in mexico policy dissuaded immigration. The facts completely disagree with that argument.....as border apprehensions continued to rise under Trump. Does the stay in mexico policy have a large effect on illegals hoping the border? No. That's a nonsense argument that may work on the donalds....but has no basis in reality.

Want to say that Trump's policies had a positive effect on illegal immigration. Sure. That's fair. As to your claim that the issue was "solved". Good lord, man. Get a hold of yourself. That's nearly as bad a take as saying that Trump is one of the best presidents ever. Laughable.

Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas in a Tuesday memo announcing the end of the policy said he determined it had "mixed effectiveness" and did "not adequately or sustainably enhance border management in such a way as to justify the program’s extensive operational burdens and other shortfalls." Biden had ordered a review of the program’s effectiveness.

He noted that border encounters increased and decreased at different times during the program.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bi...ds-trumps-remain-in-mexico-immigration-policy

The issue is under trump unaccompanieds had to stay in mexico. Estimates are under biden unaccompanieds into our interior will approach 200,000.

Under trump families had to wait in mexico. Under biden some are let into the interior of our country with not even a court date.

Under trump ICE was not allowed to give non criminal illegals extra consideration. Under biden, ICE can do just that.

Would be shocking if mayorkas said trump policy was effective so that isnt a surprise.

Your argument is with dem border reps cuellar and gonzalez, lefty mexican president. Interesting that even the illegal immigrants themselves disagree with you.
 

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The issue isnt border apprehensions. The issue is how many enter the interior of our country.
Trump's remain in mexico policy was a game changer.

Now estimates are possibly close to 200,000 unaccompanieds will be welcomed into the interior of our country this year. Families are being welcomed into the interior if our country without even being given a court date. Biden has limited ICE as well. Under trump, immigrants had to "remain in mexico" while waiting for their cases to be adjudicated. Genius.
Every previous President for decades struggled with this issue, but Trump's "remain in Mexico" policy was the genius breakthrough we'd been missing, eh?

Why didn't he campaign on that instead of "Mexico will pay for the wall!"?
 

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The issue is under trump unaccompanieds had to stay in mexico. Estimates are under biden unaccompanieds into our interior will approach 200,000.

Under trump families had to wait in mexico. Under biden some are let into the interior of our country with not even a court date.

Under trump ICE was not allowed to give non criminal illegals extra consideration. Under biden, ICE can do just that.

Would be shocking if mayorkas said trump policy was effective so that isnt a surprise.

Your argument is with dem border reps cuellar and gonzalez, lefty mexican president. Interesting that even the illegal immigrants themselves disagree with you.
2 references to Biden without calling him "The Migrant President." Two penalty strokes.
 

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Every previous President for decades struggled with this issue, but Trump's "remain in Mexico" policy was the genius breakthrough we'd been missing, eh?

Why didn't he campaign on that instead of "Mexico will pay for the wall!"?

Probly should have.
 

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2 references to Biden without calling him "The Migrant President." Two penalty strokes.

Yeah, gh posters never punk DJT's name, right? Anyway, i am just quoting the immigrants.
 

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Every previous President for decades struggled with this issue, but Trump's "remain in Mexico" policy was the genius breakthrough we'd been missing, eh?
Why let actual data get in the way of your obsession.
 

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The issue is under trump unaccompanieds had to stay in mexico. Estimates are under biden unaccompanieds into our interior will approach 200,000.

Under trump families had to wait in mexico. Under biden some are let into the interior of our country with not even a court date.

Under trump ICE was not allowed to give non criminal illegals extra consideration. Under biden, ICE can do just that.

Would be shocking if mayorkas said trump policy was effective so that isnt a surprise.

Your argument is with dem border reps cuellar and gonzalez, lefty mexican president. Interesting that even the illegal immigrants themselves disagree with you.

Wrong. My argument is with your completely laughable claim that the illegal immigration problem was solved by Trump. Not even close to true. Especially if you consider facts.

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Wrong. My argument is with your completely laughable claim that the illegal immigration problem was solved by Trump. Not even close to true. Especially if you consider facts.

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"Virtually solved". There will always be some illegals that avoid BP so we will always be able to do better.

Point is approaching 200,000 unaccompanieds into our interior under biden for the year They had stay in mexico under trump.

Some families are allowed into our county's interior without even a court date. Under trump, families had to wait in mexico.

ICE rules changed by biden.

Didnt have to be this way. Biden just needed to stay out of the way. Unfortunately that didnt happen and thus "the migrant president".
 

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This could possibly be the most brain-dead post on this board at the moment. Literally unfathomable how an individual could think like this, and yet this is what I get for clicking "See Ignored Content" out of morbid curiousity.

Really!

Please tell me: why was it "brain-dead" to point out the facts?

Was it "brain-dead" to point out that Trump promised a wall, paid for by Mexico? Or was it the part where I pointed out that the wall was never built, in four long years?

Please clarify. Or did I miss some greater, deeper wing-nut point here?

If The Big, Beautiful Wall Paid For By Mexico was really the solution to this problem, which Trump certainly insisted it was, how and why did he fail to deliver on his promise? Trump was, after all, the Head Cheeto for four years. He held his dopey, fascist wanna-be, Dear Leader rallies, endlessly singing his own praises, throughout his sham of a four-year term. And he never ceased to bray about his Wall.

What happened? Why no payoff? How come we have no wall?
 
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It sounds like "mean tweets" is your new fox talking point.

Already historians have your Donald vying for last place in presidential ranking with James Buchanon and Andrew Johnson.
Academic Democrats rank Republicans low? This is shocking news.
 

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Really!

Please tell me: why was it "brain-dead" to point out the facts?

Was it "brain-dead" to point out that Trump promised a wall, paid for by Mexico? Or was it the part where I pointed out that the wall was never built, in four long years?

Please clarify. Or did I miss some greater, deeper wing-nut point here?

If The Big, Beautiful Wall Paid For By Mexico was really the solution to this problem, which Trump certainly insisted it was, how and why did he fail to deliver on his promise? Trump was, after all, the Head Cheeto for four years. He held his dopey, fascist wanna-be, Dear Leader rallies, endlessly singing his own praises, throughout his sham of a four-year term. And he never ceased to bray about his Wall.

What happened? Why no payoff? How come we have no wall?
Maybe this will give you a clue. Watch the first 24 seconds:

 

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So it's Biden's fault that Trump couldn't deliver?

Did Trump get it done, or not?

Is there, right now, a Big Beautiful Wall, Paid For By Mexico — or was it all just another con?
 





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