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I know it's a longshot. but if we beat USC how much does Brewster's hotseat cool off? I think his seat was only warm before the South Dakota game, but afterwards, it was on fire. If we somehow manage to win, he seat will be cooler, but by how much? If the positive of beating USC greater or less than the negative of losing to South Dakota?
 

Think Charlie Wies type extension. Seriously, I think it cools the seat dramatically but can't be judged against the USD loss until the end of the year. Did they beat the Trojans of old or last year's Trojans.
 

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RodentRampage said:
I know it's a longshot. but if we beat USC how much does Brewster's hotseat cool off? I think his seat was only warm before the South Dakota game, but afterwards, it was on fire. If we somehow manage to win, he seat will be cooler, but by how much? If the positive of beating USC greater or less than the negative of losing to South Dakota?
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You shouldn't talk of such things. There are many folks on this board unwilling to openly admit it that do not want the Gophers to beat USC. To some, it would be the worst thing that could happen, right up there with beating Iowa and/or Wisconsin.
 

In the sort-term it comes close to mitigating the damage and probably ensures he lasts the season. If it ends up win 2 in a 2-10 or 3-9 season, it won't matter though. Also, if USC ends up 7-5 or 6-6 (this is very possible) it certainly takes the luster off. If on the other hand they lose handily and then drop the NIU game, Maturi's probably going to have to reconsider his stance on not making a move until the season is over.
 

The win would most likely allow him to survive to the end of the year (I know Maturi said he would evaluate Brew at the end of the year but if Brew loses 2, 3, 4, etc. in a row the fans will really really turn on him and the program and Maturi may have no choice but to fire Brew mid-season ala Dan Monson-style).

The problem for Brew is that even if he salvages part of the season and wins a few solid games, the USD loss will linger because had we won it as we should have either (a) we would have made a bowl game, or (b) we would have made a better bowl game.
 


Under no circumstances does Maturi fire Brewster mid season. Tickets for the year have already sold and the remaining tickets are not a material $ amount one way or another. Ticket sales (renewals) for next year would be depended on the new hire not when Brew would be fired. Let Brew keep recruiting (it is his strength) and then hope to have a semi-seamless transition after the regular season.
 

what would a victory against southern cal mean? what would that say about this program? think about it...how unstable would a team have to be to get dominated by a team that was division 2 three years ago and then beat a division 1 powerhouse the next week? A win would be awesome, but confusing...
 

Its not that I don't want the Gophers to win. I just can't set myself up for another in a long line of disappointments. I am bracing myself for a 54 point loss so that anything less will seem tolerable. A win would be... well, I just don't want to go there.
 

Wacker beat a Donovan McNabb led Syracuse team in '96 and finished 1-7 in the big ten and was fired. If Brewster beats USC he's back on track, but hardly out of the woods. To save his job he has to get back to a bowl.
 



howeda7 said:
In the sort-term it comes close to mitigating the damage and probably ensures he lasts the season. If it ends up win 2 in a 2-10 or 3-9 season, it won't matter though. Also, if USC ends up 7-5 or 6-6 (this is very possible) it certainly takes the luster off. If on the other hand they lose handily and then drop the NIU game, Maturi's probably going to have to reconsider his stance on not making a move until the season is over.
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This.
 


Maroon, you don't get it.

You keep the coach until the end of the year. You need to keep the time period for current scholarship athletes to ponder transferring to a minimum. This way to can reduce the effects of having senior and junior scholarship athletes transfer and leaving glaring holes of upper classmen. This is especially true if you believe that there is a decent amount of talent about to be in those ranks and the problem has been coaching.
 

Silvio said:
Maroon, you don't get it.

You keep the coach until the end of the year. You need to keep the time period for current scholarship athletes to ponder transferring to a minimum. This way to can reduce the effects of having senior and junior scholarship athletes transfer and leaving glaring holes of upper classmen. This is especially true if you believe that there is a decent amount of talent about to be in those ranks and the problem has been coaching.
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Look, I understand all the reasons to not fire a coach during the season. I'm not disagreeing with you. And I'm not saying I think Brewster should or will be fired during the season. But I'm also not saying it's IMPOSSIBLE for that to happen. It drives me crazy when people take these stances on any subject. We don't know what's going to happen. So quit saying you KNOW what isn't going to happen.
 



Maroon said:
Wrong. It's preposterous to speak in these absolutes, especially when you can't possibly know.
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This might be the 1st time I've ever agreed with Maroon.

I think its highly unlikely that Brewster would get fired before the end of the season, but I don't think any of us could call it impossible.

I, for one, could see the announcement coming in the bye week between 11/13 Illinois game and the 11/27 Iowa game in which it is announced that insert Coordinator's name here will be the interim coach for the last game of the season so that the search can start in earnest.
 

Sorry how about a prudent and intelligent AD wouldn't fire a coach until the end of a season. I think we can agree on that.
 

You don't have to fire a coach to start a search for his replacement.
 

Silvio said:
Sorry how about a prudent and intelligent AD wouldn't fire a coach until the end of a season. I think we can agree on that.
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Pretty much. I'm just leaving room for the "extreme circumstances" that could potentially unfold with two more losses in the next two weeks. I hope that doesn't happen, but if it does, watch out.
 


Go Gophers Rah said:
This might be the 1st time I've ever agreed with Maroon.

I think its highly unlikely that Brewster would get fired before the end of the season, but I don't think any of us could call it impossible.

I, for one, could see the announcement coming in the bye week between 11/13 Illinois game and the 11/27 Iowa game in which it is announced that insert Coordinator's name here will be the interim coach for the last game of the season so that the search can start in earnest.
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First time ever? What did I do? :D
 

I think a USC win might help. But I'm not so sure a win against a vulnerable ranked team quite outweighs what many have decided to call the most humiliating loss in the history of the program. At least not to the extent that many would like. If Brewster beats USC but still only wins three or four games this season it's still gonna be a hard sell for Maturi.

Though, really, for some reason I really think that regardless of the outcome Brew is going get one more season. Whether he should I wont say until the dust settles. Amid the turmoil of the internet it's easy to lose sight of the fact that the firing of Brewster isn't up to the public.
 

this is hilarious. it has been bantered all over this board during the week the USC is not the USC of old and looks very beatable. now this tread is title "just suppose we win?" as if it would be some huge shock since this is USC. So which is it? USC looks very beatable or a Gopher win would a huge upset? one beyond comprehension.

either way people get what they want. if USC rolls it was expected and if the Gophers win it isn't the USC that looks very beatable it is the old dominat USC that the Gophers just beat.
 

johnnybb said:
I think a USC win might help. But I'm not so sure a win against a vulnerable ranked team quite outweighs what many have decided to call the most humiliating loss in the history of the program. At least not to the extent that many would like. If Brewster beats USC but still only wins three or four games this season it's still gonna be a hard sell for Maturi.

Though, really, for some reason I really think that regardless of the outcome Brew is going get one more season. Whether he should I wont say until the dust settles. Amid the turmoil of the internet it's easy to lose sight of the fact that the firing of Brewster isn't up to the public.
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If the Gophers win three games this year and Brewster still comes back, I can't even imagine how that would go over. To go against my own rant, I'd call that scenario almost IMPOSSIBLE!
 

You qualified it with almost, so the post is good by your standards!
 

Is it wrong that I'd somehow be more angry? How could a team that beat USC (even an allegedly watered-down one) lose to South effing Dakota.

No, I'd be thrilled and the heat of Brew's seat would be somewhat diminished. It's not going to happen, but I'd be thrilled.
 

scools12 said:
this is hilarious. it has been bantered all over this board during the week the USC is not the USC of old and looks very beatable. now this tread is title "just suppose we win?" as if it would be some huge shock since this is USC. So which is it? USC looks very beatable or a Gopher win would a huge upset? one beyond comprehension.

either way people get what they want. if USC rolls it was expected and if the Gophers win it isn't the USC that looks very beatable it is the old dominat USC that the Gophers just beat.
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IMO...the problem isn't that USC looks beatable...

It's that we have a Defense that looks like it can't stop anybody...

USC will probably lose between 3 to 4 games this Season similar to Cal last year...but our problem is ourselves...
 

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