Josh Donaldson tweets that he has 'an entire catalog of video' of MLB pitchers cheating

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Thought this merited it's own thread. Revenge of the pitchers? I really hope this isn't an empty threat by Donaldson. Release the hounds (videotape)!!


Major League Baseball hardly needs another cheating scandal, but one is brewing nonetheless.

Batting averages are lower than they've been in more than a half-century. Fewer balls than ever are being put in play. There have already been six no-hitters this season. Blame hitters who have changed their approach?

Maybe that's some of it. But others would contend that widespread doctoring of baseballs by pitchers — cheating with sunscreen, rosin and more exotic specialty concoctions — is producing off-the-charts spin rates and creating pitches that are hard to control and harder to hit.

As I talked about on Friday's Daily Delivery podcast, the controversy gained steam earlier this week when umpire Joe West asked Cardinals relief pitcher Giovanny Gallegos to change his cap after suspecting there was sunscreen on it.

Cardinals manager Mike Shildt was ejected for arguing about it, and after the game he went off on what he deemed selective enforcement that amounted to a "setup," in his words, of his pitcher. He went even further than that in talking about baseball's "dirty little secret" with strong words.

"Major League Baseball has got a very, very, very tough position here,'' Shildt says, "because there are people effectively, and not even trying to hide, essentially flipping the bird at the league with how they're cheating in this game with concocted substances. There are players that have been monetized for it. There are players obviously doing it going to their glove. There's clear video of it."

If you are wondering where to find that video, Twins third baseman Josh Donaldson has entered the chat.


In a Twitter exchange with former MLB pitcher Dallas Braden, Donaldson first tweeted, "Crazy idea here but I'm going to throw it out there. Stop cheating!!" He added: "I have an entire catalog of video of these guys cheating it's coming out."

Donaldson, a career .271 hitter with an .873 on-base plus slugging mark, is hitting just .236 this season with a .752 OPS. But he's hardly alone in his offensive frustration this season, American League batters hitting just .238 collectively.

"I'm speaking up for the hitters that have a living to make facing stuff that's really, really good," Shildt said, "and you can see based on spin rates how guys' careers are jumping off the charts.''

Perhaps one could argue that pitchers are merely taking a counter-measure after the sign-stealing scandal that ensnared the Astros and Red Sox — but surely included many more times — benefited hitters.

But like Donaldson said, the real solution is for MLB to crack down on all measures of cheating on both sides.

Commissioner Rob Manfred likely has no appetite for that. But he might not have a choice if the chorus keeps getting louder — and if Donaldson releases his catalog of video evidence.
 

how are the pitchers cheating? What’s ‘in the glove’?
 

Not a fan of teaser threats. If he has the goods, show them. No reason to dangle a tweet out there like this.

Plenty of game video of him stealing millions of dollars from the Twins.

Win Twins!!
 

Does Donaldson want to increase his On Base Percentage by enticing pitchers to throw at his noggin?
 
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How low would his batting average be, if he did not have this data?
 


There might be something to this. Four minor-league players are being suspended for using illegal substances while pitching.

MLB confirmed to The Associated Press on Wednesday that four players have been suspended.

White Sox right-hander Marcus Evey of Low-A Kannapolis was the first, receiving a 10-game ban from MLB after he was ejected from a May 13 game when umpires discovered a foreign substance.

Three more players were suspended 10 games after being busted last weekend -- Sal Biasi of High-A Winston Salem in the White Sox system, Kai-Wei Teng of High-A Eugene with the San Francisco Giants and Mason Englert of Low-A Down East with the Texas Rangers.


Kai-Wei Teng is a former Twins farmhand. He went to the Giants in the awful Sam Dyson trade where the Twins picked up a relief pitcher with chronic injury problems.
 


This Should Be the Biggest Scandal in Sports​


SI story:

One ball made its way into an NL dugout last week, where players took turns touching a palm to the sticky material coating it and lifting the baseball, adhered to their hand, into the air. Another one, corralled in a different NL dugout, had clear-enough fingerprints indented in the goo that opponents could mimic the pitcher’s grip. A third one, also in the NL, was so sticky that when an opponent tried to pull the glue off, three inches of seams came off with it.
 

So fans who pick up home run and foul balls should have evidence. Well, let’s have it.
 



If it's that sticky, wouldn't the pitcher bounce a few at about 50 ft?
 

The Twins either aren't cheating, or they're doing it wrong.
 

So fans who pick up home run and foul balls should have evidence. Well, let’s have it.
When playing VFW, a guy on my team did it and the movement on the ball was amazing - hypnotic watching it from the dugout and we were laughing our arses off. He was a mediocre pitcher until that day, but my coach caught him (he had Vaseline1 on the underside of the brim) and yanked him.
Apologies to any VF Wadena players in the late 80s.

He showed us one day how he did it and you only need a dap: it'll do yah. Basically if the ball is put in play, it's hard to notice, you'd need a ball not in play and not rubbed clean by a catcher.
 

The Twins either aren't cheating, or they're doing it wrong.
The Twins leading HR hitter one year during the peak of the 90's steroid era was Matt Lawton with 20. Clearly they weren't cheating, although I think Lawton may actually have been accused at some point.
 



The Twins leading HR hitter one year during the peak of the 90's steroid era was Matt Lawton with 20. Clearly they weren't cheating, although I think Lawton may actually have been accused at some point.

The Twins insist on "doing things the right way" results be damned.

It allows us to sleep well at night, and also allows us not to have to worry about planning parades in October.

Win Twins!!
 

The Twins insist on "doing things the right way" results be damned.

It allows us to sleep well at night, and also allows us not to have to worry about planning parades in October.

Win Twins!!
They can't take away your World Series trophy in shame if you never win one. Smart....
 

If pitchers are using illegal substances, how long before some hitter decides it's time to head into the wood shop and make a corked bat?

Previous players who were caught or suspected of using corked bats included Albert (Joey) Belle, Amos Otis, Graig Nettles and Sammy Sosa.

The Albert Belle story is an all-timer. The Umpires confiscated his bat and put it in the Umpires locker room. Allegedly, one of Belle's teammates crawled through some duct work, got into the Umpires' room and switched Belle's bat for a 'good' bat belonging to another player.
 





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