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Anyone else watching this game? Did you see that foul by Kane of Iowa St? He made no play on the ball and essentially just punched a BYU player in the face. The BYU player got hit hard in the eye and was in a lot of pain. Kane was ejected.

It's a good game, Iowa St. has come back and is up three late.
 

GophersInIowa said:
Anyone else watching this game? Did you see that foul by Kane of Iowa St? He made no play on the ball and essentially just punched a BYU player in the face. The BYU player got hit hard in the eye and was in a lot of pain. Kane was ejected.

It's a good game, Iowa St. has come back and is up three late.
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Yeah, I thought that was pretty dirty.
 

It was dirty. How about when ejim fouled out when the BYU students were chanting at him he flicked them off.

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MadtownGopher said:
Hoiberg sure loves his thugs.
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Yep. Thugs have 4.0 GPAs and are Big 12 Scholar Athletes of the year all the time. Dude lost his composure and apologized. Ejim is about as class as they come, sorry.

Kane looked like he was anticipating Mika to take the ball up, but instead pump faked right into Kane's flailing hands. He deserved the ejection probably, but I don't think it was on purpose.
 


That was one of the more entertaining games so far this season. Georges Niang is developing into a beast. He was clutch cargo down the stretch.

Iowa State has been a really fun team to watch under Hoiberg. Seems like his players play free & easy, not afraid to make mistakes, which is refreshing in this day & age of control-freak, ranting & raving college coaches. Hoiberg has proven to be quite a hire by ISU following the Greg McDermott disaster.
 

Bewilderme said:
Yep. Thugs have 4.0 GPAs and are Big 12 Scholar Athletes of the year all the time. Dude lost his composure and apologized. Ejim is about as class as they come, sorry.

Kane looked like he was anticipating Mika to take the ball up, but instead pump faked right into Kane's flailing hands. He deserved the ejection probably, but I don't think it was on purpose.
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You know Ejim?
 

Bewilderme said:
Yep. Thugs have 4.0 GPAs and are Big 12 Scholar Athletes of the year all the time. Dude lost his composure and apologized. Ejim is about as class as they come, sorry.

Kane looked like he was anticipating Mika to take the ball up, but instead pump faked right into Kane's flailing hands. He deserved the ejection probably, but I don't think it was on purpose.
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If Ejim was classy he wouldn't have given the finger in the first place, sorry.
 




GopherHoopsFan said:
If Ejim was classy he wouldn't have given the finger in the first place, sorry.
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You've never lost your temper? He apologized immediately; I imagine BYU got to him with constant chanting.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Definitely lost my composure today. I apologize to the byu student section and Iowa state university. What I did was inexcusable and rude.</p>— Melvin Ejim (@M3llyM3I) <a href="https://twitter.com/M3llyM3I/statuses/403388098618224640">November 21, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Think what you like, I guess.
 

I've heard stories from some assistants at ISU. All say the guy is as thug as they get.
 


Ejim did a stupid, heat-of-the-moment thing, and apologized for it. I'd rather the kid see the error of his ways and apologize for it, as he did, than to not acknowledge it at all. He seems to have remorse, so I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Now if something similar happens again, then yes, there are likely much bigger issues.
 



Bewilderme said:
You've never lost your temper? He apologized immediately; I imagine BYU got to him with constant chanting.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Definitely lost my composure today. I apologize to the byu student section and Iowa state university. What I did was inexcusable and rude.</p>— Melvin Ejim (@M3llyM3I) <a href="https://twitter.com/M3llyM3I/statuses/403388098618224640">November 21, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Think what you like, I guess.
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You kind of sound like a Lions fan defending Suh right now. I don't know anything about Ejim, but of course he's going to appologize.
 

So when ejim fouled out and thought it was funny to fake sitting down and flicks them off and then when hogue fouls out ejim whispers and tells him to mess with the students too, hogue running in place so they couldn't keep up with the chant and also faking sitting down real mature.....

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Maybe he was thinking "with all due respect" as he flipped off the fans? Then that made it okay.
 

Ejim is an emotional player, tough guy, academic all-star, and a rebounding machine. I'd take that guy on the Gophers any day of the week. Especially if he'd flip off the Badger crowd every year on his way off the Kohl Center floor.
 

It's not like anyone on here made any heat of the moment decisions that they immediately regretted at 22. It was a great game though.
 

Any video of the thuggery anywhere? I didn't find it on YouTube.
 


Bad Gopher said:
Any video of the thuggery anywhere? I didn't find it on YouTube.
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The only thing I could find is this:

http://lawlessrepublic.com/2013/11/...tm_medium=Network&utm_campaign=Trending on FS

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Here it is:


Kane is stunned at how he's victimized by the flagrant foul call, at the same time showing no concern at all for the injured player. Thug.
 



GophersOnTheRise said:
Didn't Bewilderme say it looked like an accident? Haha
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I said he deserved the ejection. Fully warranted. I also don't think he was intending to plunge his fingers into Mika's eyes. He was anticipating a big man doing what they are taught to do, which is to take the ball up - Kane was anticipating that and went for the strip. When Mika pump faked into Kane, the play in question happened. Ejection fully warranted, but to say he did that with full intention is giving Kane far too much credit, imo. It's easy to analyze at half speed with replays, but at game speed it would be damn hard to do what Kane did intentionally.

Again - not defending the foul - fully deserved ejection. I just don't think Kane consciously plunged his fingers into Mika's eyes. He was going full force at what he anticipated was Mika going for the shot like he had done all night.

Call these guys thugs, but from watching Ejim for four years and Kane even just for a few - they are competitors, but not thugs. If it makes you feel better, by all means complain away.
 

They way I see that...Mika had the ball down low. Kane did not drop his hands down to make any play at the ball to strip it away. He also didn't move his arms up to defend against the shot. Kane's hands went straight out right at Mika's face.

He may not have gouged the guy on purpose, but it doesn't seem like he was going for the ball either.
 

mplarson7 said:
They way I see that...Mika had the ball down low. Kane did not drop his hands down to make any play at the ball to strip it away. He also didn't move his arms up to defend against the shot. Kane's hands went straight out right at Mika's face.

He may not have gouged the guy on purpose, but it doesn't seem like he was going for the ball either.
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Fair enough - I don't want to defend him too much (I guess I already have). He did what he did and no one likes to see another player hurt. The only person that knows the real story is Kane, and I doubt he will ever speak to it either way. Thankfully Mika appears to only have a scratched cornea.

Six of one half dozen of the other, as the Brits say.
 

Kane is a thug. My buddy has a son who goes to ISU and knows him, and he sent my buddy this screen shot from his phone yesterday afternoon:

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Bewilderme said:
I said he deserved the ejection. Fully warranted. I also don't think he was intending to plunge his fingers into Mika's eyes. He was anticipating a big man doing what they are taught to do, which is to take the ball up - Kane was anticipating that and went for the strip. When Mika pump faked into Kane, the play in question happened. Ejection fully warranted, but to say he did that with full intention is giving Kane far too much credit, imo. It's easy to analyze at half speed with replays, but at game speed it would be damn hard to do what Kane did intentionally.

Again - not defending the foul - fully deserved ejection. I just don't think Kane consciously plunged his fingers into Mika's eyes. He was going full force at what he anticipated was Mika going for the shot like he had done all night.

Call these guys thugs, but from watching Ejim for four years and Kane even just for a few - they are competitors, but not thugs. If it makes you feel better, by all means complain away.
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I like Hoiberg and don't mind Iowa State, so I'm not just trying to bring ISU and it's players down. I keep watching the replay trying to see it from your point of view, but man, I just don't see it. Regardless of where a player expects the ball to be or how fast it happens, I have never seen a player go for a block or strip in a high poking/jabbing motion like Kane did. They'll either swipe in a downward motion, or try to get their hands up to block it away, but Kane didn't do that at all. Why would he be going in a jabbing motion if he didn't intend to hit him in the face/head? Also, if you look closely, he never even attempts to look at the ball. He stares Mika in the face (the apparent target) the entire way through. I'm not sure how an objective minded person can defend this. Don't you think it's at all possible that you're wrong and he did in fact try to hit him in the face (not necessarily the eyes, but somewhere in the face/head region)?
 

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