Iowa giving Ferentz a new contract extension

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Not much choice for Iowa, he has been successful here and there.
 

Not really news...been a known thing for months. Can't think it will be more than a couple more years. He'll be 64 in 2020.
 


That should almost certainly lead to a disappointing season for them. Kudos to their AD. Bring home the Pig!
 


A_Slab_of_Bacon said:
Not much choice for Iowa, he has been successful here and there.
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Stability is the name of the game in Iowa City. Two Head Football Coaches since December 1978. My guess is he will retire before the end of the contract. At the end of the 2025 season, he will be 70.
 

If we could just get to 7.5 wins per season for 15 years our program will be looked at in a whole new light.
 

Queue the whining Hawkeye fans next time he fails to win 10 games.

We'd be extremely luck to have a coach as successful as Ferentz and yet, I'd guess, we'd still have our share of fans hating on him for a 7-5 year...
 

MaxyJR1 said:
If we could just get to 7.5 wins per season for 15 years our program will be looked at in a whole new light.
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People have forgotten what Ferentz inherited. The cupboard was bare at the end of the Fry Era. Ferentz's seasons in 1999 and 2000 were disastrous (4-19 overall). Ferentz turned the corner with his players in 2001 (7-5, Alamo Bowl win). In 2002, Iowa was Co-B1G Champions (11-2, Orange Bowl appearance).

From 2002-2004, Iowa was 31-7, 2 B1G Championships and AP Top 10 Finishes.

Iowa was 19-18 from 2005-2007. Iowa turned the corner again from 2008-2010 (28-11, 3 Bowl wins including an Orange Bowl, 2009 Top Ten Finish, 2008 Top 20 Finish).

2011-2014, Iowa was 26-25, with the 2013 8-5 campaign being the best season. 2015, Iowa earned a berth in the Rose Bowl and finished 12-2.

It has been a story of ups and downs, a lot of bowl games, 7 wins against theach Top 10, 21 against the Top 25 and 5 Top Ten Finishes.

Iowa values stability and is willing to pay for it. All this being said, Iowa will probably lose to Iowa State on Saturday but I think Ferentz has done exceptional work at Iowa. The context of his 128-87 (76-60) record matters. Since 2001 (turned the corner with his new recruits, he is 124-68, 73-47).
 



PapaHawk21 said:
People have forgotten what Ferentz inherited. The cupboard was bare at the end of the Fry Era. Ferentz's seasons in 1999 and 2000 were disastrous (4-19 overall). Ferentz turned the corner with his players in 2001 (7-5, Alamo Bowl win). In 2002, Iowa was Co-B1G Champions (11-2, Orange Bowl appearance).

From 2002-2004, Iowa was 31-7, 2 B1G Championships and AP Top 10 Finishes.

Iowa was 19-18 from 2005-2007. Iowa turned the corner again from 2008-2010 (28-11, 3 Bowl wins including an Orange Bowl, 2009 Top Ten Finish, 2008 Top 20 Finish).

2011-2014, Iowa was 26-25, with the 2013 8-5 campaign being the best season. 2015, Iowa earned a berth in the Rose Bowl and finished 12-2.

It has been a story of ups and downs, a lot of bowl games, 7 wins against theach Top 10, 21 against the Top 25 and 5 Top Ten Finishes.

Iowa values stability and is willing to pay for it. All this being said, Iowa will probably lose to Iowa State on Saturday but I think Ferentz has done exceptional work at Iowa. The context of his 128-87 (76-60) record matters. Since 2001 (turned the corner with his new recruits, he is 124-68, 73-47).
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I believe maxy was being positive. I don't expect Alabama level,I think we can get to iowa/sconi level
 

salzie said:
I believe maxy was being positive. I don't expect Alabama level,I think we can get to iowa/sconi level
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Pay no mind. He copies and pastes that in every topic that references Iowa.
 


If Kirk Ferentz continues to have a good level of success in Iowa City during the remainder of this contract, I'd wager his son will be named the "coach in waiting" in 4 or 5 years.
 



tjgopher said:
If Kirk Ferentz continues to have a good level of success in Iowa City during the remainder of this contract, I'd wager his son will be named the "coach in waiting" in 4 or 5 years.
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I duno..... Iowa likes stability but I'm not sure they'd go that far. Maybe they'd promise Kirk that his son gets a job but I'm not sure they'd give him a HC job that soon.
 

PapaHawk21 said:
People have forgotten what Ferentz inherited. The cupboard was bare at the end of the Fry Era. Ferentz's seasons in 1999 and 2000 were disastrous (4-19 overall). Ferentz turned the corner with his players in 2001 (7-5, Alamo Bowl win). In 2002, Iowa was Co-B1G Champions (11-2, Orange Bowl appearance).

From 2002-2004, Iowa was 31-7, 2 B1G Championships and AP Top 10 Finishes.

Iowa was 19-18 from 2005-2007. Iowa turned the corner again from 2008-2010 (28-11, 3 Bowl wins including an Orange Bowl, 2009 Top Ten Finish, 2008 Top 20 Finish).

2011-2014, Iowa was 26-25, with the 2013 8-5 campaign being the best season. 2015, Iowa earned a berth in the Rose Bowl and finished 12-2.

It has been a story of ups and downs, a lot of bowl games, 7 wins against theach Top 10, 21 against the Top 25 and 5 Top Ten Finishes.

Iowa values stability and is willing to pay for it. All this being said, Iowa will probably lose to Iowa State on Saturday but I think Ferentz has done exceptional work at Iowa. The context of his 128-87 (76-60) record matters. Since 2001 (turned the corner with his new recruits, he is 124-68, 73-47).
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I'd be happy with Iowa level success up here. Maybe wish for a bit more in terms of B1G championships but he has done well over all.
 

A_Slab_of_Bacon said:
I duno..... Iowa likes stability but I'm not sure they'd go that far. Maybe they'd promise Kirk that his son gets a job but I'm not sure they'd give him a HC job that soon.
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In five years the Ferentz son will be 38 years old with 16 years of coaching experience, including a stint with Bill Bellichik and what would be ten years at Iowa. If the old man remains successful, the son will be the frontrunner.
 

tjgopher said:
In five years the Ferentz son will be 38 years old with 16 years of coaching experience, including a stint with Bill Bellichik and what would be ten years at Iowa. If the old man remains successful, the son will be the frontrunner.
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He's still just a position coach and not a coordinator... that's a Brewster type hire, without the recruiting bonus...
 

A_Slab_of_Bacon said:
He's still just a position coach and not a coordinator... that's a Brewster type hire, without the recruiting bonus...
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His dad was a position coach when they hired him.

Pat Fitzgerald was a position coach when Northwestern made him the head man. That seems to be working out pretty well for them - and Fitzgerald was far younger and less experienced than Brian Ferentz will be by that point.
 

dpodoll68 said:
His dad was a position coach when they hired him.

Pat Fitzgerald was a position coach when Northwestern made him the head man. That seems to be working out pretty well for them - and Fitzgerald was far younger and less experienced than Brian Ferentz will be by that point.
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Northwestern doesn't exactly get to be a chooser....

And Brewster is my counterpoint ... and that is a pretty heavy counterpoint.
 

Odd for someone that argues stars matter (and they do, in aggregate) that the success rate of position coaches equals that of either coordinators or head coaches moving up. Someone (google if you wish) took the time to study the 5 year success rate for each category of coach after a new hire and position coaches, in aggregate, had less success. Similar to how teams with lower ranked classes generally don't win as much, although there are many exceptions.

Generally speaking, hiring position coaches is a bad idea and I hope we don't ever go that route again.
 

A_Slab_of_Bacon said:
Northwestern doesn't exactly get to be a chooser....

And Brewster is my counterpoint ... and that is a pretty heavy counterpoint.
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And Fitzgerald was a NU legend who was thrust into his position 2 months before the season when Randy Walker died unexpectedly. Under normal circumstances would he have become a head coach at 31 with 8 years of coaching experience, the highest level being a position coach? Most likely not, but the circumstances surrounding Walker's death were hardly normal.
 

dpodoll68 said:
His dad was a position coach when they hired him. Pat Fitzgerald was a position coach when Northwestern made him the head man. That seems to be working out pretty well for them - and Fitzgerald was far younger and less experienced than Brian Ferentz will be by that point.
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Ferentz did have head coaching experience though as well at the University of Maine before becoming a position coach in the NFL.
 

GopherGod said:
Ferentz did have head coaching experience though as well at the University of Maine before becoming a position coach in the NFL.
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Hummmm you think if Claeys doesn't work out he would come here....?
 

A_Slab_of_Bacon said:
He's still just a position coach and not a coordinator... that's a Brewster type hire, without the recruiting bonus...
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I think it a virtual certainty that the younger Ferentz will be the offensive coordinator at Iowa once Greg Davis steps aside, which will likely be in a year or two. There were even rumblings Davis was going to walk away after last season. So, my line of thinking builds in the assumption that Brian Ferentz will not only be a coordinator, but likely the associate head coach within the next couple of years. Just in time to slide him into "coach in waiting" status 4-5 years from now.

Experience won't be the thing that keeps the son out. To me, the main way Brian Ferentz isn't the next Iowa coach is if Kirk Ferentz experiences another downturn in the next 3-4 years (which is a strong possibility, as he always had a dip at some point) and things turn sour again there for him.
 

tjgopher said:
I think it a virtual certainty that the younger Ferentz will be the offensive coordinator at Iowa once Greg Davis steps aside, which will likely be in a year or two. There were even rumblings Davis was going to walk away after last season. So, my line of thinking builds in the assumption that Brian Ferentz will not only be a coordinator, but likely the associate head coach within the next couple of years. Just in time to slide him into "coach in waiting" status 4-5 years from now.

Experience won't be the thing that keeps the son out. To me, the main way Brian Ferentz isn't the next Iowa coach is if Kirk Ferentz experiences another downturn in the next 3-4 years (which is a strong possibility, as he always had a dip at some point) and things turn sour again there for him.
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Yeah if they move him into a coordinator late and hit a downturn at the same time... that would be a hard sell to the fans.
 

Pompous Elitist said:
Odd for someone that argues stars matter (and they do, in aggregate) that the success rate of position coaches equals that of either coordinators or head coaches moving up.
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Who's arguing that?

Pompous Elitist said:
Generally speaking, hiring position coaches is a bad idea and I hope we don't ever go that route again.
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I'm not talking generalities, I'm talking specifics and arguing against absolutes. Saying that all position coaches will fail is as stupid as saying that hiring a position coach is as likely to be successful as hiring a coordinator or head coach (an argument I've never advanced). Like most things in life, it's not 100% either way. I would guess that Iowa and Northwestern are pretty happy with the position coaches they hired.
 

dpodoll68 said:
Who's arguing that?



I'm not talking generalities, I'm talking specifics and arguing against absolutes. Saying that all position coaches will fail is as stupid as saying that hiring a position coach is as likely to be successful as hiring a coordinator or head coach (an argument I've never advanced). Like most things in life, it's not 100% either way. I would guess that Iowa and Northwestern are pretty happy with the position coaches they hired.
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Which is exactly what he said if you go back and read the post. Specifically the part where he said there are exceptions
 

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