I'm getting sick and tired at our imature fans and local media!!!

[Rog]

This is crazy, fans and media who are determend to not let a football coach achieve his goal. Sure there is going to be bumps along the way of getting to the top and we have had some but the biggests bump are the ones who want to start all over again and go through the same process. 3 years from now they will be bitching again.

I'm sure most of those complaining are too young to remember as I do, that after the year the same type of fans hung a likeness of Murray Warmath on his front lawn, he won the national championship for Minnesota.

Lets all get together and support Brewster, he can recruit and he will coach us to the goals he has set.

Any one else want to get on the band wagon with me?

GO GOPHERS!!!!!

 

[Dr.Don]

Rog...Here is what I see:

1. Instant gratification needed (see electonic games).

2. No understanding of what it is to build something, have Mommy and Daddy buy it already assembled.

3. Experts at everything, experienced at nothing.

4. Little kids who made temper tantrums when they did not get their ways.

5. The glass is always half-empty, not half full.

6. Frustrated over no common sense, just pi$$ed at everything that isn't what they want.

7. Add anything you want to my list.

At least I admit that I know nothing about what it takes to build a successful program, so I drink beer and go shopping with several wallets. Life is Good!

 

[WAGopher]

The problem with the media is there aren't many reporters left that act as the voice of reason for Gopher sports. Most of them have long devolved into tabloid sports reporting (can't use journalism here) which means whoever is the loudest and most outrageous wins. For the most part, we encourage them because we talk more about this crap than we do about the players or the game. But I sure wish we had a wise wordsmith that in one story could put reason to chaos.

 

[frozengopher]

I'm with you, Rog. I just need Brewster to restore my faith and make a public statement.

 

[frozengopher]

The problem with the media is there aren't many reporters left that act as the voice of reason for Gopher sports. Most of them have long devolved into tabloid sports reporting (can't use journalism here) which means whoever is the loudest and most outrageous wins. For the most part, we encourage them because we talk more about this crap than we do about the players or the game. But I sure wish we had a wise wordsmith that in one story could put reason to chaos.

Dare I say it? *GULP* Sid is probably the closest thing to a voice of reason for the Gophers. And he's old and possibly homeriffic. Maybe Youngblood, but sometimes his posts are a little ridiculous. I do like Shama.

 

[washgopher]

agree

I agree with Rog. But what do you suppose the odds are that, in the Insight Bowl, both teams fail to score after 10 OTs and that the officials finally stop the game if both schools agree to fire their HCs while still on the sidelines, just to stop the game? Just being facetious.

 

[maxwellsmart]

Is this thread heaven? Please don't try fooling me into thinking it's Iowa. Seriously, I don't know what these complainers think will happen if we start over again after only three seasons and two full recruiting classes. If they can get past their own displeasure and really want to know they ought to search this board and read darn near everything posted by Schnoodler. Anyway, thanks for the common sense thread. I say we're at a point where whomever must get their five years and then either be glad we waited or pull the trigger. It rarely pays in any endeavor to make rash moves early for the sake of taking action.

 

[buddylee853]

This is crazy, fans and media who are determend to not let a football coach achieve his goal. Sure there is going to be bumps along the way of getting to the top and we have had some but the biggests bump are the ones who want to start all over again and go through the same process. 3 years from now they will be bitching again.

I'm sure most of those complaining are too young to remember as I do, that after the year the same type of fans hung a likeness of Murray Warmath on his front lawn, he won the national championship for Minnesota.

Lets all get together and support Brewster, he can recruit and he will coach us to the goals he has set.

Any one else want to get on the band wagon with me?

GO GOPHERS!!!!!

Never left the bandwagon, my friend; I was born on the bandwagon!

Please, somebody put a sticky on this thread or at least the original post. Otherwise, we'd better produce a mock-epitaph as a sticky, as we are usually the facilitators of our own demise.

 

[Gold Vision]

You can't blame this most recent drama on the media. Maturi purposely brought up the Kansas situation with Marcus Fuller. Those are direct quotes from our AD.

 

[bankonit]

Brewster has us closer to the top of the mountain than any coach has in decades. His recruiting will get us there. GIVE HIM TIME PEOPLE!!!! Fire him and we tailspin for years and years.

 

[Diehardgopherman]

Amen to the posters on this thread started by Rog!!!

Nice to read posts that show maturity,have a historical perspective, realize the need for patience, and continue to have passion for Gopher football. It is easy to tell which Gopher football supporters have been around a while.

Nobody wants to go to the Rose Bowl (or a BCS bowl) more than me, but
let the next few years play out. Keep stability in our coaching positions.
We will know after next year, and certainly the year after, if we need to go in a different direction.

I do agree with one mantra from Sid "changing coaches at the University has not been the solution".

Switching coaches at this juncture, in my opinion, will mean we will be having this same conversation in 2-3 more years.

Support Brewster and let the next few years play out!

Go Gophers!!!

 

[husker70]

Rog, I am with you. It was two years ago, I took WCCO off my presets in the car, swore never to click on Star Tribune Story from a columnist, switched to Channel 5 to avoid Minnie Me. My message to the twin town media, I don't need you.

And you know what, I am better for it. I appreciate a national view and ESPN radio is just fine. I will take Jim Rome over any mike talent in the twin towns. If I need to know something about Gopher Football, this is the place. I don't need to call, and be bashed for an opinion. Maybe, just maybe the world doesn't revolve around the Fat A33 from Fulda.

 

[wdgold]

Brewster has us closer to the top of the mountain than any coach has in decades.


Not Yet! He hasn't even come close to the offense that Mason had. I will say that Mason's defensive problems is what did him in.

 

[eag35]

Here's the deal Rog, there is a much longer list supporting the fact that Brewster is in over his head and does not have the abilities needed to run a BCS program and have it run at a high level. The list showing that he is definitely the right guy for the job and has the program steered in the right direction is much much smaller.
And if anyone thinks that the media or fans belly aching about the program is why it has been a less than stellar team in past decades is fooling themselves. Show me where that could possibly be a reason when compared to poor talent development, poor coaching, poor budgetary restraints. Last I checked, my dismay in Brewster's lack of game management did not lead to a single Weber interception...nor did it contribute to Brewster's game plan and lack of having a team ready to play, such as with SDSU this fall.

 

[Ole]

Here's the deal Rog, there is a much longer list supporting the fact that Brewster is in over his head and does not have the abilities needed to run a BCS program and have it run at a high level. The list showing that he is definitely the right guy for the job and has the program steered in the right direction is much much smaller.
And if anyone thinks that the media or fans belly aching about the program is why it has been a less than stellar team in past decades is fooling themselves. Show me where that could possibly be a reason when compared to poor talent development, poor coaching, poor budgetary restraints. Last I checked, my dismay in Brewster's lack of game management did not lead to a single Weber interception...nor did it contribute to Brewster's game plan and lack of having a team ready to play, such as with SDSU this fall.

The talent development has been fine, most of Brewster's talent are still underclassmen, some have had flashes, some haven't even seen the field yet.

The coaching has been inconsistent, we whooped NW on the road, put together a brilliant gameplan against MSU, and had some quality wins this year, we also had poor games some of which we won, some of which we lost. This can be debated, again and again and again.

The budget restraint by Maturi's own admission has been great, he takes home one of the smallest BCS salaries around and allows recruiting and assistant coaching to take priority.
I'm not sure where you see waste or lack of restraint.

There are alot of people who have poo pooed the idea that media coverage matters at all, I would argue it does, because perception is key for building recruiting and fan support. A skewed media bias against your program will inevitably hurt.

 

[eag35]

Quality win? In three years has there been a quality win? Maybe Illinois, but they ended the season with just 5 wins themselves that year. There have been no quality wins.
Let's talk player development. Some would argue Weber has regressed. Other's would argue that the players Brewster have brought in have been less than stellar compared to their lofty "stars" during the recruitment period. Now, some will say that stars mean nothing, that a one star can turn out to be a stud and a 5 star can be a dud. But these will be the same people that all juiced up reading about the latest recruits and the rankings.
Kansas wasn't goint to offer Brester the job. All Brewster has proven is he can tear an average team down and in three years get it BACK to mediocrity. Kansas has been getting double digit wins, why let our bozo turn them into double digit losses? They wouldn't.

 

[Ole]

Quality win? In three years has there been a quality win? Maybe Illinois, but they ended the season with just 5 wins themselves that year. There have been no quality wins.
Let's talk player development. Some would argue Weber has regressed. Other's would argue that the players Brewster have brought in have been less than stellar compared to their lofty "stars" during the recruitment period. Now, some will say that stars mean nothing, that a one star can turn out to be a stud and a 5 star can be a dud. But these will be the same people that all juiced up reading about the latest recruits and the rankings.
Kansas wasn't goint to offer Brester the job. All Brewster has proven is he can tear an average team down and in three years get it BACK to mediocrity. Kansas has been getting double digit wins, why let our bozo turn them into double digit losses? They wouldn't.

Notice the I started my post with, this stuff has been hammered through time and time again. For argument's sake I'll go through my thoughts on these topics, but it kinda seems you're already set in your mind.

SO:
There have been quality wins, there haven't been epic, signature wins. There haven't been rivalry wins. Ill in 08, Air force, NW, MSU, are all quality wins. Not signature wins, not rivalry wins. I agree that this needs to change next year, a win against a ranked team and a rival needs to happen, but I won't discount beating bowl teams or even Big Ten teams.

Stars and rankings are kinda pointless. Player development hasn't stalled out, I saw more out of Wheelwright in 07' than at any time during his career. Decker, Campbell, Tripplett, Sherels, Brown, Small. all of these guys got better the last 3 years.
I've also seen meaningful contributions made by Brewster's underclassmen, I've seen flashes from Stoudemire, Mcknight, Green, Gray, Whaley, Allen, Kirksey, Edwards, Tinsley, Cooper, Carter, and others. I've seen some(not all) JUCO recruits become quality starters in the Big Ten, allowing our team to bounce back and go to consecutive bowls.
Now everyone needs to take the next step, become quality starters, become stars, win more, go to better bowls.

You're right, Kansas wasn't going to offer Brewster the job, Brewster even said so. It was at best a leaked name from the Big12, at worst a contract negotiating ploy. Who knows, our AD stirred things up to the point that everyone including me got caught up in it all.

You gotta take a step back and get some perspective man, we were not good this year, we were not bad this year. The team and coach had brilliant moments and terrible moments. Look towards '10 for answers, that's where I'm looking. 5-7 next yeaar begs for a change, 8-4 might cause alot of crow eating in the TC area.

 

[dpodoll68]

Quality win? In three years has there been a quality win? Maybe Illinois, but they ended the season with just 5 wins themselves that year. There have been no quality wins.

Really? Brewster gets no credit whatsoever for beating 3 (and possibly 4) bowl teams this year?

Let's talk player development.

Yes, let's. Brewster and his staff get absolutely no credit for Decker, Campbell, Sherels, Brown, Small, etc.?

Some would argue Weber has regressed.

Duh.

Other's would argue that the players Brewster have brought in have been less than stellar compared to their lofty "stars" during the recruitment period.

You're already evaluating players who, in most cases, have not yet seen the field, or at best, may have started a handful of games. You, sir, are brilliant.

Kansas has been getting double digit wins, why let our bozo turn them into double digit losses? They wouldn't.

They have? They had a 12-win season in 2007, a 10-win season in 1995 under Glen Mason, and the last before that was in 1905.

I was unaware that four bowl berths, three winning seasons, and a well-below-.500 record since the Big 8 became the Big 12 has suddenly turned Kansas into a powerhouse football program. Apparently it has in your eyes.

 

[dpodoll68]

Sorry Ole, I was typing while you posted. Didn't mean to repeat your info. It's amazing how similar our posts are, though.

 

[Schnoodler]

Such is the nature of immature teams OLE. Well stated. There will be a switch that goes off for this team as the talent becomes experienced talent. Nobody knows when that will happen. Next year? IDK. 2011? It has to happen by then. If not, then we have the info we need to move on.

Imagine the talent of cooper and others like him playing with the maturity of Tripplet, or Campbell. When that happens is when we take the next step. We saw how much more talented Tinsley was when he played. But even so the better starting choice was the Seniors. That is the power of experience and weight room. The thought that one day these kids will be talented strong and experienced should keep us interested. We should be excited about these guys, not negative because we can't stand the wait.