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but I do believe Golden is the hire, here's why, Golden is exactly the guy described by Maturi as far as a coach they are looking for. Maturi said he hoped to get a Tubby Smith type of hire but that was a hope. Golden reportedly has interviewed with MN but has been virtually silent about any possibility of the U hiring him, even after several others have come out and said that they were not interested. Then it leaks yesterday that all of a sudden Golden has interest in the Vanderbilt job, this tipped me off that he may be in negotiations with MN as why else would a report like that come out. Maybe reading too much into this but the fact that Golden is reportedly interested in Vandy but has not released anything about the Gophs job sounds funny.
 

It's reported Golden's buyout is 2 million. If that's true I don't see him being the guy. I'm betting it's Fulmer because he has no buyout, and it would be a bad choice which so far is what I expect maturi to make, hope not, but I just don't trust his instincts.
 

I think this is a good take.
 

All reasonable thoughts and assumptions based on the info currently available. I wouldn't be surprised, and I would be happy if it was indeed Golden. I've got other favorites, but Golden is up there... and there have been signs he is THE guy. Of course there have been a lot of other signs pointing to other candidates but we have to wade through all the misinformation, tweets, month old tweets being posted now, false janitor reports, etc. etc.
 

I agree, he has been unusually quiet about the whole thing. Even the Temple AD has been mum about the whole topic.
 


SDGopherFan said:
but I do believe Golden is the hire, here's why, Golden is exactly the guy described by Maturi as far as a coach they are looking for. Maturi said he hoped to get a Tubby Smith type of hire but that was a hope. Golden reportedly has interviewed with MN but has been virtually silent about any possibility of the U hiring him, even after several others have come out and said that they were not interested. Then it leaks yesterday that all of a sudden Golden has interest in the Vanderbilt job, this tipped me off that he may be in negotiations with MN as why else would a report like that come out. Maybe reading too much into this but the fact that Golden is reportedly interested in Vandy but has not released anything about the Gophs job sounds funny.
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If you want to try and use intuition one would say you are right. As there has been basically no information coming out of the Golden camp. One could assume that negotiations are ongoing. The Vanderbilt thing may have been two things. 1. A smoke screen to try and draw reporters away from the negotiations, or 2. A ploy by Golden's camp to force Minnesota's hand with a bigger salary.

I would be very happy with Golden. I just want this process over so I can get back to my life.
 

This thread has the best subject line of any. I feel like everyone on here should title their posts this way.
 

No one actually knows what Golden's buyout amount is because Temple is a private institution and can't be compelled to disclose it. It's probably pretty steep, but if they really want him, which I can't imagine they don't, it might be worth it.
 




Maybe

its because of recent statements he has made about maybe waiting a year etc but the Bellotti name has been awfully quiet of late.
 

Another thing about Golden I find interesting is the fact that the leak about his interview came from another "big ten coach." He probably called someone for advise. I wonder who that someone could be. I really hope it's Golden.
 

I don't remember even the slightest rumor that the Gophs had interviewed Golden. What tweet am I forgetting?
 

I'm at the point where I expect it to be a complete shock (Tubby-esque) or a complete disaster (Trestman.) Having it be one of the names we've already seen a million times will almost be a let-down in its own way.
 



If the $2M buyout is true Golden needs to immediately fire his agent. Temple was on the verge of getting rid of football when he was hired, they are paying him half a million to coach there, how the fuc& would such a coach have a $2M buyout if he leaves? The school would be in no position to demand such a clause be in their coach's contract. What a disaster of a contract that would be if true. This CAN'T be true?!?!?
 

When I read about the possibility of Golden at Vanderbilt, I thought,

"What the heck? Is Vandy a better job?" - No.

"Can Vandy pay more?" - Maybe, but I sure hope not.

So the OP's theory jives with my incredulity of GOlden at Vandy but not at Minnesota.
 

I think Trestman would not be the end of the world. Yes it's not ideal but he might turn out to be very good choice. He's an offensive guru with head coaching and offensive coordinator experience. Plus with his Minnesota ties, he might stay here for awhile. I don't think Trestman would be the end of the world.
 

gold04 said:
I think Trestman would not be the end of the world. Yes it's not ideal but he might turn out to be very good choice. He's an offensive guru with head coaching and offensive coordinator experience. Plus with his Minnesota ties, he might stay here for awhile. I don't think Trestman would be the end of the world.
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I'd rather keep Horton as head coach
 

I agree

gold04 said:
I think Trestman would not be the end of the world. Yes it's not ideal but he might turn out to be very good choice. He's an offensive guru with head coaching and offensive coordinator experience. Plus with his Minnesota ties, he might stay here for awhile. I don't think Trestman would be the end of the world.
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Trestman is not anybody's first choice, very likely, but he should be ahead of several mentioned alternatives.
 

Duluthguy said:
I don't remember even the slightest rumor that the Gophs had interviewed Golden. What tweet am I forgetting?
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"A Big Ten head coach told me that Al Golden has interviewed for the Minnesota job."

@TomDienhart, 2:14 pm, 11/28/10
 

This was even Tweeted = More Credible.

sonnygarcia said:
If the $2M buyout is true Golden needs to immediately fire his agent. Temple was on the verge of getting rid of football when he was hired, they are paying him half a million to coach there, how the fuc& would such a coach have a $2M buyout if he leaves? The school would be in no position to demand such a clause be in their coach's contract. What a disaster of a contract that would be if true. This CAN'T be true?!?!?
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Golden renewed his contract with Temple. Here's the story from May 5, 2010:

Al Golden Rewarded by the Temple Owls with a Contract Extension
By Mike Gibson (Correspondent) on May 6, 2010

I like the way Temple athletic director Bill Bradshaw works; quietly and behind the scenes.

I ran into Bill at the signing day function and mentioned something about head coach Al Golden's contract and Bill said, "Al Golden can have a contract extension any time he wants."

Bradshaw didn't elaborate, and he didn't need to for a Joe Schmoe like me.

I didn't take it as a good sign at the time because I interpreted it as a "contract extension" of the current contract with the same financial terms in place. Evidently, though, from what I hear, his recently signed extension features a significant increase in Golden's salary with a commensurate increase in staff compensation. The figures $1.2 million with a $2 million buyout have been floated around.

I got those from reliable sources, guys who have told me things that have happened the day before they became public elsewhere, so I don't doubt them. Someone tweeted me this morning that Golden is now making money similar to head coaches in BCS conferences, a more-than-double salary increase.

I like that, but what I like more is that there are hightened protections in place for my beloved Temple University.

I hope Al stays at Temple for a Joe Paterno-like run, but I live in a real world. Other schools have come after him hard the past two seasons and, someday, someone is going to get him for the right price.

Once that happens, though, I want Temple protected and this deal does that. The school that hires Golden away from Temple will have to pay the school the kind of money West Virginia got when Rich Rodriguez left for Michigan. That's the best part of the deal and assures that Temple will have the financial wherewithal to hire a big-name coach should Golden leave.

Let's hope Golden settles in and develops the kind of love for the school that Wayne Hardin, John Chaney and Harry Litwack had. This school has a special mission and only very special people understand that.

For the historic-like turnaround Golden has already achieved, he deserves to be compensated handsomely. I hope he attacks the enormous task ahead to move the program forward with the same verve he has in working his magic so far.

Today was a great day for both Al Golden and Temple football, but there are greater days ahead.

It should be fun finding out what rewards those days bring to the Owls and their fans
 

howeda7 said:
I'm at the point where I expect it to be a complete shock (Tubby-esque) or a complete disaster (Trestman.) Having it be one of the names we've already seen a million times will almost be a let-down in its own way.
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You and me both. When Larry Fedora's name came up yesterday I was having a hard time getting excited. I thought the hat jokes were good, but in retrospect, I don't see anything from him that screams I will be successful in the Big Ten. If it's Trestman, I will have a hard time renewing my season tickets and Fulmer and Belotti are too old.
 

gophmeister said:
No one actually knows what Golden's buyout amount is because Temple is a private institution and can't be compelled to disclose it. It's probably pretty steep, but if they really want him, which I can't imagine they don't, it might be worth it.
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Wrong. Temple is a public university just like Penn State and Pittsburgh (the term for those three is "state-related.). I don't know what disclosure laws are in Pennsylvania, but Temple is not a private school.
 

discochris said:
Wrong. Temple is a public university just like Penn State and Pittsburgh (the term for those three is "state-related.). I don't know what disclosure laws are in Pennsylvania, but Temple is not a private school.
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You are correct. The term "state-related" means that the schools are independtly operated, but receive state funding as needed. Because they are independent, they are not subject to state open records laws, with a few exceptions.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08048/858150-298.stm

Those three and Lincoln University, an HBCU, are the four state-related schools.
 


Here is a scary little tidbit on Al Golden from Pat Forde at ESPN.com. Yikes.

Golden's name has been rumored, but here's the startling stat on the boss of the Owls: In five seasons at Temple he's never beaten a Mid-American Conference opponent that finished the season with a winning record.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=5865590

That is not a good stat for Mr. Golden. Wow.
 

Stan The Caddy said:
Here is a scary little tidbit on Al Golden from Pat Forde at ESPN.com. Yikes.

Golden's name has been rumored, but here's the startling stat on the boss of the Owls: In five seasons at Temple he's never beaten a Mid-American Conference opponent that finished the season with a winning record.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=5865590

That is not a good stat for Mr. Golden. Wow.
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That really is an interesting stat. But here's how I see it:

Temple was absolute junk before Golden got there. They were bad in his first year, 2006, and only marginally better in 2007, and then again a little better in 2008. The upperclassman were, obviously, all the previous head coach's recruits. It's not surprising that out of their 10 wins over the 3 years combined, none were against quality competition.

When Golden's guys became upperclassmen, they started being competitive. In 2009, they only played one MAC team with a winning record, Ohio, and that game was on the road. In 2010, they played three such teams (Miami, Ohio, and Northern Illinois), and only one of the three (Ohio) was at home. So the really relevant stat is that they're 0-4 against +.500 MAC teams over the last two years, with three of those losses coming on the road. It's a little concerning, I'll grant, but given that the MAC is a parity-driven conference, and only one of those 4 games was at home, it's not as worrisome as it appears at first blush.
 

That is a good way to look at it dpodoll and I agree that you can throw out his first 3 years there. They were beyond awful for a LONG time before Golden arrives. At first blush, it is worrisome. We all know there was no shame in losing to Northern Illinois this year...
 

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