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Try as I might, I cannot get angry about hiring a coach who has dominated everywhere he has coached, just went 8-0 in the conference, and destroyed our Gophers at the Bank not two months ago.

Can someone please explain to me why Jerry Kill is not a great hire? If you can't get a Dan Mullen, I do not understand why Brady Hoke or Randy Edsall would eclipse Kill.
 

Finally a little sanity. This is not a horrible hire. This is a real head coach with real head coaching experience. This guy has proven he can win and by all accounts should be a candidate for an FBS school.
 

Not mad either.

If he didn't look like 96% of the people reading this board, he'd be better received.

Velkommen.
 

He might very well be successful here in time. He has a very good track record as a head coach with only a couple of losing seasons out of 17 and some conference titles. He is not a big name coach who is going bring instant fan interest. It looks this will remain a low-profile program, unless this guy can bring us a breakthrough season.
 

A few seasons of increasing wins and more signature victories will give us the credibility and higher profile we want. Nothing else will. I'm willing to see how far we can go under Kill.
 


I like this hire, and consider it an upgrade. Anyone who says he has already hit his ceiling must be psychic or something because there is no quantitative or qualitative way to establish that. I'm looking forward to efficient execution of plays on Saturdays.
 

He's a proven winner. Not a name hire, but a guy who has consistently won at every level he's been at.
 


It could be much worse

Hopefully Coach Kill will surpass all our hopes. First, I think he's got to stay alive. Second, he looks like the guy behind the counter at the tire store. And he isn't any more inspiring when he talks. Will he be able to retain the players on the roster or recruit new ones going forward? Third, he dresses like Danny Devito. I don't think he is going to sell tickets prior to beating a few teams.

Having said that, if we give him a chance. There is the possibility he can really coach. Time will tell.

I just feel like I said before if you don't know who your bosses are going to be it was going to be real difficult to sell a bigger name on taking the job.

Lets hope he can retain the players we have and retain the bigger names in place recruiting wise and add some surprises to them. That has to be job one.
 



Coach Kill transformed three struggling programs to solid winners. Which other's can claim that? And his staff has been with him for years.
 

Staff being with him for years isn't a good sign. Good talent moves up and on.
 

60's Guy said:
Hopefully Coach Kill will surpass all our hopes. First, I think he's got to stay alive.
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I was thinking the same thing. Terry Hoeppner at Indiana came to mind. Hopefully, we found a diamond in the rough like Hoeppner but not the same tragic end.
 






I'm not a Gopher but I think it is a good hire! Kill is a winner!
 

I'm not mad, disappointed considering some of the hype, but not even close to mad. We got a good coach. Problem is, I was hoping for a great coach, meaning the whole package. Kill is a good on-field coach, I just don't know anything about his off-field stuff, recruiting, ability to sell the program to recruits, which is the case with most of the other coaches as well that were being bandied about. I mean, NIU isn't a place to sell, so I can't even look at any of the recruiting he did there. But for me, that's the "unknown", whether he can recruit well enough to truly challenge for a conference title at some point.
 

Until we learn more about the other names being thrown around, I'm holding judgement.

If Kill was last guy standing...good hire. I want to know if we could have gotten someone else before I react though.

Will we ever find out what really happened the last month?

Studwell is correct. Kill not looking the part is obviously a problem for some.

I think M. Gray should be happy after watching Kill's offense last year.
 

Handsome Pete said:
Try as I might, I cannot get angry about hiring a coach who has dominated everywhere he has coached, just went 8-0 in the conference, and destroyed our Gophers at the Bank not two months ago.

Can someone please explain to me why Jerry Kill is not a great hire? If you can't get a Dan Mullen, I do not understand why Brady Hoke or Randy Edsall would eclipse Kill.
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Handsome Pete, we have had our differences, but you and I are 100% in agreement on this. I just posted the following on the thread ripping Kill's recruiting classes at UNI:

"Have any of you been to DeKalb, IL? If so, you probably don't want to go back. If not, you don't want to go there. I am of the former.

Some of you seem more interested in recruiting class rankings than results. This guy came from nowhere, has been handed nothing, and has spent a lifetime working his butt off to get where he is now and has the results to prove it. 100+ ranked recruiting classes piss-pounded our squad this year and put up 10 wins. That tells me he and his staff can develop players, something Brew couldn't do. Will he be able to recruit here? We'll see, but who cares if he is able to develop guys and put 10 wins on the board.

It doesn't matter what the players are ranked when they get to college. Just some examples off the top of my head, but see Rasheed Hageman, Michael Carter, Spencer Reeves, Sam Maresh, etc, etc, all of whom were highly touted and have done nothing; Eric Decker, Marion Barber III (few offers and the U did not offer until AFTER the Prep Bowl., and even then intended to play him at d-back, not RB), Greg Eslinger, Troy Stoudamire (2 star) and Dajon McKnight (2 star), none of whom were highly touted coming in, but couldn't it be said they developed in to very good players (I'm not putting Troy in the same universe as MB, Decker, and the other former Gophers; just making the point that he has been more than we expected when he got here).

What matters is how they are rated when they leave, and where the team ranks.

Maturi did not do himself any favors at the Brew firing press conference by even referencing he Tubby hire, but beyond that, expectations for a big hire were set only by the media and others on this board, none of whom were privy to any information whatsoever as to how the process went."
 




Bayfieldgopher said:
Coach Kill transformed three struggling programs to solid winners. Which other's can claim that? And his staff has been with him for years.
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But he did not do it vs. Nebraska, PSU, OSU, MSU, UW, Iowa. Big difference. Time will tell but you have to have the ability to recruit on a regional and national scale to win in the Big 10, sorry its reality. That will be his biggest challege, coaching ability is there. But you need the horses to win.
 

Replacement Gopher said:
Staff being with him for years isn't a good sign. Good talent moves up and on.
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Tom Osborne had incredible retention of his staff at Nebraska.

Must have been a talentless group to go 255-49-3 and win 13 conference titles and 3 national titles in 25 years.
 


He wasn't my first choice but I can live with it.
 

NateDawgUM said:
Tom Osborne had incredible retention of his staff at Nebraska.

Must have been a talentless group to go 255-49-3 and win 13 conference titles and 3 national titles in 25 years.
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You are equating Nebraska and their assistant coach salaries to Southern and Northern Illinois?
 

Most Stability in last 25 years

Jerry Kill brings the best resume and possibly the most stability to a coaching staff that we have seen in 25 years.
 

Not really. Check Geln Mason's resume prior to taking the job at the U. He turned down UGA. Who else was after Kill?
 

Staff being with him for years isn't a good sign. Good talent moves up and on.
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That's not exactly how it works in lower-division football.

Do you know where an individual coordinator moves up from Emporia or Southern Illinois? He goes to a poor Division III school, etc. If he's lucky.

Kill's run is quite remarkable and increasingly rare. The days of Gerry Faust working his way up to Notre Dame are finished.
 

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