How Much cash did Montee Ball lose by not signing with the NFL last year?

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last year he would have probably been an early 2nd rounder but after this year and his inability to shed a non maroon and gold block he will be relegated to a 4th round pick. Smoke and Mirrors.
 

I think he returned to school because the NFL evaluators told him he'd likely be a 3rd round pick. He's dropped a round or two, but I still think he'll play in the pros and probably do alright. Chryst working him into the passing game last season was a plus for Ball. He just lacks an explosive first step. Kind of a throwback to the era of "read" runners and there aren't many of them anymore with the change in the pro game.

Agree that he's probably tens of thousands of dollars lighter in the bank account department because of his decision.
 

More wear on the treads also. Not a great decision.
 


50lb. I recall john clay being a later pick but last year M Ball woulda been higher than 3rd round( I am not a draft head). you are correct on the read back running style cuz the pros will shoot that out almost everytime.
 


His value was likely determined (and limited) by the historical (lack of) NFL success of all the other "prolific" Badger backs over the past several years. You know, such NFL legends like Ron Dayne, John Clay, Brian Calhoun, PJ Hill, etc. Not to say Ball might be the one who breaks the string, but the RB from Wisconsin is mostly a product of the system, not necessarily the talent. The evidence is born by the change to the system this season after the departure of the Offensive coordinator and OL Line coach, and Ball looks quite ordinary now.
 

I like to forget about Wisconsin running backs after they graduate, and I think most football fans do the same, as I can't remember any of them doing as much as what was expected of them out of college.

The two I remember are Michael Bennett with the vikes, and Ron Dayne with the New York Giants that never made it past average, and they were remarkable in college.



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Dayne couldn't get to the edge in the NFL and Bennett i never really saw. Is this the same Michael Bennett who is going to jail...announced yesterday?
 

WHB Brewer said:
His value was likely determined (and limited) by the historical (lack of) NFL success of all the other "prolific" Badger backs over the past several years. You know, such NFL legends like Ron Dayne, John Clay, Brian Calhoun, PJ Hill, etc. Not to say Ball might be the one who breaks the string, but the RB from Wisconsin is mostly a product of the system, not necessarily the talent. The evidence is born by the change to the system this season after the departure of the Offensive coordinator and OL Line coach, and Ball looks quite ordinary now.
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Michael Bennett had some success in the NFL.
 



WHB Brewer said:
His value was likely determined (and limited) by the historical (lack of) NFL success of all the other "prolific" Badger backs over the past several years. You know, such NFL legends like Ron Dayne, John Clay, Brian Calhoun, PJ Hill, etc. Not to say Ball might be the one who breaks the string, but the RB from Wisconsin is mostly a product of the system, not necessarily the talent. The evidence is born by the change to the system this season after the departure of the Offensive coordinator and OL Line coach, and Ball looks quite ordinary now.
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Beat me to it. I was saying the same thing at the time, but you know more about it than I.

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dpodoll68 said:
Michael Bennett had some success in the NFL.
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I suppose you are right. He could have been more successful too, as he was one of the fastest players in the NFL at the time if I remember correctly. He was slowed down by injuries though. And I think he got hit more than he needed to because he had a tendency to run past his blockers before they laid the block.

Something Robert Smith, another burner, but from Ohio State (I think) figured out to do in his best years.

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wait!what? said:
50lb. I recall john clay being a later pick but last year M Ball woulda been higher than 3rd round( I am not a draft head). you are correct on the read back running style cuz the pros will shoot that out almost everytime.
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John Clay wasn't drafted.
 




wait!what? said:
maybe am I mixing him up with PJ Hill? troof is maybe being a stand out back in a mediocre football conf. don't mean much in the bigs. 37 RB TDs in the SEC = big guy but 37 RB TDs in the BIG = meh.
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PJ Hill wasn't drafted either. Maybe you're thinking of Brian Calhoun who was taken in the 3rd round in 2006. He ended up with about 300 yards in his NFL career. Calhoun actually left after his junior year too.
 

wait!what? said:
50lb. I recall john clay being a later pick but last year M Ball woulda been higher than 3rd round( I am not a draft head). you are correct on the read back running style cuz the pros will shoot that out almost everytime.
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I am just commenting from a report I read. Anyone considering coming out early can have an evaluation of what their likely draft status would be and the report given to Ball indicated he would probably be a third-round pick. I was surprised when I read that, but the pro scouts know what they are looking for and one-cut backs are all the vogue now.

And Clay was not drafted.

Brian Calhoun was a 3rd round pick by the Lions, but injuries derailed his career (and I didn't think he was all that great). Anthony Davis was a 7th round pick, but never played a down in the NFL.
 

It is amazing with how great the Badger run game has been how few backs have made it at the next level. On the flip side of that I don't have the numbers but I am betting there are a number of former Badgers on O-Lines around the league.

Ron Dayne was the best example of a guy that was a compete product of his O-Line. If he was allowed to get a head of steam going he could run over college players and get huge gains, if you ever managed to him him in the backfield though he would go down pretty easy. In the NFL he was never able to get that kind of room to start which is why he was a dud at that level.
 

I don't think Montee Ball would have been higher than a 3rd round pick, only 5 RBs went in the first two rounds. He wasn't going to be in the first round (he just has never been the caliber of athlete of Doug Martin, David Wilson or Trent Richardson).

In all reality, he probably lost a little bit of money but the difference between a 3rd round pick and a 5th round pick.
 

I doubt he gets drafted at all. With all the wear and the concussions, what appeal does he have anymore?
 


Plinnius said:
I doubt he gets drafted at all. With all the wear and the concussions, what appeal does he have anymore?
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I think he'll get drafted simply because he looks like a guy who is assignment sure and has shown he can catch the ball.
 

2nd round pick, not bad
 

Monty will be another sconnie flop just like clay.
 

tap said:
Monty will be another sconnie flop just like clay.
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Unfortunately he and all these other Wisconsin backs weren't "flops" in college.. Product of a system or not, they were pretty damn good. To relish in their inability to star at the NFL level is asinine and reeks of jealousy.
I can't stand the Badgers, but I would have loved to have "flops" like Clay and Ball in the Gopher backfield these past five years.
 

CP Gopher said:
Unfortunately he and all these other Wisconsin backs weren't "flops" in college.. Product of a system or not, they were pretty damn good. To relish in their inability to star at the NFL level is asinine and reeks of jealousy.
I can't stand the Badgers, but I would have loved to have "flops" like Clay and Ball in the Gopher backfield these past five years.
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And it's not like the Gophers top RB's in the past 25 years or so have done much of anything in the NFL. Darrell Thompson and Laurence Maroney were both busts. Barber was okay but not great. The third leading rusher in MN history, Hamner, never played a down in the NFL.
 

I thought he made a big mistake, but he certainly elevated his stock. It didn't hurt that he was a part of arguably the worst RB class in about 50 years. He's in a great situation. Great QB, good line and an opening to be "the guy". I wonder who'll score more Broncos TDs this year, Decker or Ball.
 

CP Gopher said:
Unfortunately he and all these other Wisconsin backs weren't "flops" in college.. Product of a system or not, they were pretty damn good. To relish in their inability to star at the NFL level is asinine and reeks of jealousy.
I can't stand the Badgers, but I would have loved to have "flops" like Clay and Ball in the Gopher backfield these past five years.
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I see what you are saying here and even agree. But I think you used your 1000th post defending Wisconsin. I want you to just think about what you did.
 

LBJ said:
I see what you are saying here and even agree. But I think you used your 1000th post defending Wisconsin. I want you to just think about what you did.
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Damn it. Didn't realize it was number 1000....I think one of my posts from 2010 was erased from the records because I received an improper payment from a booster for posting it. GopherHole obviously hasn't changed my official tally as of yet. So technically THIS is #1000 for me.........so............THE BADGERS SUCK!
 

The only Wisky running backs that left a mark upon the NFL were Elroy "Crazy Legs" Hirsch and Alan "The Horse" Ameche. Their time was long ago, 40's and 50's.
 

Nate said:
2nd round pick, not bad
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Playing with a Super Bowl favorite, Payton Manning as his QB and having a chance to start for the Broncos who really don't have a starting RB at this point...I would say he's in good shape.
 


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