Has Big Ten surpassed SEC in college football hierarchy? Examining the gap between powerhouse conferences

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When Ohio State defeated Notre Dame to win the inaugural 12-team College Football Playoff, it ended a 10-year national title drought for the Buckeyes and removed a large, scarlet and gray face-painted monkey off Ryan Day's back. It also gave the Big Ten back-to-back national championships, the first time that's happened since the 1965 and 1966 seasons when Michigan State won consecutive national titles.

It's a rare occurrence and one that has sparked a wider debate. After decades of living under the unrelenting tyranny of the SEC, has the Big Ten overthrown the college football monarchy? Is the Big Ten now the king of college football?

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There is no perfect way to rank teams in a sport that features 134 programs all playing wildly different schedules against various levels of opponents. However, I like to tell myself I've come pretty close to doing so, using a ranking system that eliminates all bias. For years, I've ranked teams based on nothing but the results of games in a current season. Each year, Ohio State begins the season with the same rating as UMass, and only results from games are used to rate teams. As for the strength of the schedule, it's all based on the rankings of teams within my system to eliminate bias from outside polls.

All in all, it's done a pretty good job of ranking teams without our preconceived notions of what preseason polls and super handsome podcast hosts tell us teams should be. How did my rankings rate teams this season? Here's a look at the top 10 teams following the conclusion of the College Football Playoff.

TeamConference
1. Ohio StateBig Ten
2. IndianaBig Ten
3. OregonBig Ten
4. Notre DameIndependent
5. Ole MissSEC
6. TexasSEC
7. MiamiACC
8. Penn StateBig Ten
9. BYUBig 12
10. SMUACC

What should stand out immediately is that the top three teams all call the Big Ten home, and the fourth is Notre Dame. We don't see an SEC team until we get to Ole Miss at No. 5 (you know these are Lane Kiffin's favorite rankings). We also see there are four Big Ten teams in the top 10 and only two SEC teams, which is the same amount of ACC teams on the list.

Again, this suggests the Big Ten is better than the SEC, but do you remember the argument non-SEC fans used to hammer SEC fans over the head with for years? You know, the one about how the SEC isn't actually that good, it's just got more elite teams than everybody else and is extremely top-heavy?

Well, that same argument can be used to crack open the Big Ten's case here as well because the next three teams in the rankings are all SEC teams, as are nine of the top 36 teams. The Big Ten may have four top-10 teams, but it only has four more in the top 40. Making matters worse, the Big Ten has three teams ranked in the bottom 40 (Maryland, Northwestern and Purdue), while the SEC only has two (Kentucky and Mississippi State). But even this doesn't tell the whole story. After all, a Big Ten fan can counter by saying, "Yeah, well, we have 18 teams to their 16, so we're more likely to have more teams in the bottom 40!" This fan did not go to Purdue because if they did, they would quickly point out that 3 of 18 is 16.7% of your league while 2 of 16 is only 12.5%, but it's possible the Purdue fan wouldn't say anything because it's Purdue that truly crushes the Big Ten in this next portion of our study.

Here's what happens when I use the same formula I use to rank the teams on the
conferences.

ConferenceRating
1. SEC7.86
2. Big Ten6.47
3. Big 125.64
4. ACC5.38
5. American3.11
6. Sun Belt2.73
7. Mountain West2.32
8. MAC1.81
9. C-USA1.05

Yeah, the SEC is rated considerably higher. While it's not ultra-scientific, it is noticeable that the gap between the SEC's rating and the Big Ten's (1.39) is wider than the gap between the Big Ten and ACC in fourth place (1.09).


When Ohio State defeated Notre Dame to win the inaugural 12-team College Football Playoff, it ended a 10-year national title drought for the Buckeyes and removed a large, scarlet and gray face-painted monkey off Ryan Day's back. It also gave the Big Ten back-to-back national championships, the first time that's happened since the 1965 and 1966 seasons when Michigan State won consecutive national titles.

It's a rare occurrence and one that has sparked a wider debate. After decades of living under the unrelenting tyranny of the SEC, has the Big Ten overthrown the college football monarchy? Is the Big Ten now the king of college football?

Well, if you're into recency bias (who isn't?) then that last paragraph you read is probably your favorite of all time because there's certainly a strong argument to be made it has. After all, it's winning national titles that gave the SEC such a strong claim; the league has won 15 national titles in the 27 seasons since the inception of the BCS (1998), and it hasn't all been one school. While Alabama has won more than everybody else, six different SEC schools have hoisted the trophy.

Now, the Big Ten has won two in a row with two different schools. Plus, the league got four teams into the 12-team field College Football Playoff, and three of them made it to the quarterfinals while two made the semifinals. The SEC only got three teams in, and Texas was the only one of the three to win a game (it won two). Georgia and Tennessee were one-and-done, unceremoniously dumped by the two teams who reached the title game.


The Big Ten went 2-0 against the SEC in College Football Playoff games and 3-1 against it in other bowl games. So recent results strongly suggest that the Big Ten is the SEC's daddy, but as fun as recency bias can be, it's not the best way to reach a conclusion.

I have another preferred method: looking at the wider sample size that is an entire season.

There is no perfect way to rank teams in a sport that features 134 programs all playing wildly different schedules against various levels of opponents. However, I like to tell myself I've come pretty close to doing so, using a ranking system that eliminates all bias. For years, I've ranked teams based on nothing but the results of games in a current season. Each year, Ohio State begins the season with the same rating as UMass, and only results from games are used to rate teams. As for the strength of the schedule, it's all based on the rankings of teams within my system to eliminate bias from outside polls.


All in all, it's done a pretty good job of ranking teams without our preconceived notions of what preseason polls and super handsome podcast hosts tell us teams should be. How did my rankings rate teams this season? Here's a look at the top 10 teams following the conclusion of the College Football Playoff.

TeamConference
1. Ohio StateBig Ten
2. IndianaBig Ten
3. OregonBig Ten
4. Notre DameIndependent
5. Ole MissSEC
6. TexasSEC
7. MiamiACC
8. Penn StateBig Ten
9. BYUBig 12
10. SMUACC
What should stand out immediately is that the top three teams all call the Big Ten home, and the fourth is Notre Dame. We don't see an SEC team until we get to Ole Miss at No. 5 (you know these are Lane Kiffin's favorite rankings). We also see there are four Big Ten teams in the top 10 and only two SEC teams, which is the same amount of ACC teams on the list.

Again, this suggests the Big Ten is better than the SEC, but do you remember the argument non-SEC fans used to hammer SEC fans over the head with for years? You know, the one about how the SEC isn't actually that good, it's just got more elite teams than everybody else and is extremely top-heavy?

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Well, that same argument can be used to crack open the Big Ten's case here as well because the next three teams in the rankings are all SEC teams, as are nine of the top 36 teams. The Big Ten may have four top-10 teams, but it only has four more in the top 40. Making matters worse, the Big Ten has three teams ranked in the bottom 40 (Maryland, Northwestern and Purdue), while the SEC only has two (Kentucky and Mississippi State). But even this doesn't tell the whole story. After all, a Big Ten fan can counter by saying, "Yeah, well, we have 18 teams to their 16, so we're more likely to have more teams in the bottom 40!" This fan did not go to Purdue because if they did, they would quickly point out that 3 of 18 is 16.7% of your league while 2 of 16 is only 12.5%, but it's possible the Purdue fan wouldn't say anything because it's Purdue that truly crushes the Big Ten in this next portion of our study.

Here's what happens when I use the same formula I use to rank the teams on the conferences.

ConferenceRating
1. SEC7.86
2. Big Ten6.47
3. Big 125.64
4. ACC5.38
5. American3.11
6. Sun Belt2.73
7. Mountain West2.32
8. MAC1.81
9. C-USA1.05
Yeah, the SEC is rated considerably higher. While it's not ultra-scientific, it is noticeable that the gap between the SEC's rating and the Big Ten's (1.39) is wider than the gap between the Big Ten and ACC in fourth place (1.09).

Essentially, what we can take away from this is that while the Big Ten has won two national titles with two different schools, the league is top-heavy. The SEC might not have the best team in the country these days, but it's got a larger selection of very good teams than the Big Ten. Once you get past the Big Ten's five best teams this season (its four playoff teams and Illinois), there's a considerable drop down to the next tier of teams in the league. A gap that isn't as pronounced in the SEC.

So, what's the grand conclusion? While I won't stop any of you from chanting "ESS-EEE-SEE" or "BEE-ONE-GEE" at each other (it's fun to chant things, and I want you to enjoy yourselves), I'm of the opinion the SEC is still clearly a better league than the Big Ten overall.

Now, that said ...

The Big Ten didn't close the gap only this season or last. It's a gap that's been closed for a few years now, and it's possible it could close for good one day in the not-so-distant future.
 

I think there is the perception that the SEC is deeper due to the love they get from ESPN but overall the two conferences are very similar.

The one big difference might be that the top of the SEC is not as well defined as the top of the Big Ten is. But both conference are very deep with a lot of quality teams from top to bottom.
 

The SEC was “better” for a minute about a decade ago, mostly by perception, when they were more egregious about pay-for-play, skirting academic eligibility equality with non-athlete students, and enjoyed playing Big Ten teams (that usually were lower in its conference standings) in bowl games that were effectively home games for the SEC.

With those advantages diminishing, the facade has quickly eroded.
 

I would still say it's probably a better conference but not by a lot. The perception is that once you get past the top 4-5 teams in each conference, the SEC is significantly better. Which is evident by the top 25 rankings every year. But I think it's largely inaccurate.

There's more talent in the SEC but that difference has decreased with the portal. And even then, more talent doesn't always equal more success.
 

What do we think of the Coaches?

Big TenSEC
Ryan DayKirby Smart
Dan LanningSteve Sarkisian
Jame FranklinLane Kiffin
Lincoln RileyKalen DeBoar
Curt CignettiMike Elko
Kirk FerentzBrian Kelly
PJ FleckJosh Heupel
Brett BielemaEli Drinkwitz
Jedd FishHugh Freeze
Matt RhuleShane Beamer
Luke FickellBent Venables
Greg SchianoSam Pittman
Jonathan SmithMark Stoops
Sherrone MooreBilly Napier
David BraunJeff Lebby
Mike LocksleyClark Lea
Deshawn Foster
Barry Odom
 


What do we think of the Coaches?

Big TenSEC
Ryan DayKirby Smart
Dan LanningSteve Sarkisian
Jame FranklinLane Kiffin
Lincoln RileyKalen DeBoar
Curt CignettiMike Elko
Kirk FerentzBrian Kelly
PJ FleckJosh Heupel
Brett BielemaEli Drinkwitz
Jedd FishHugh Freeze
Matt RhuleShane Beamer
Luke FickellBent Venables
Greg SchianoSam Pittman
Jonathan SmithMark Stoops
Sherrone MooreBilly Napier
David BraunJeff Lebby
Mike LocksleyClark Lea
Deshawn Foster
Barry Odom
I feel like this should be a match the coach with their school kind of game. I got most of the Big Ten but had to double check on guys like Smith, Braun, and Odom since. SEC, can get about 60% of those without cheating. :)
 


Also.....ridiculous article.


The SEC might not have the best team in the country these days, but it's got a larger selection of very good teams than the Big Ten. Once you get past the Big Ten's five best teams this season (its four playoff teams and Illinois), there's a considerable drop down to the next tier of teams in the league. A gap that isn't as pronounced in the SEC.

There's a considerable drop down to the next tier after Illinois? But the SEC doesn't have that same gap. Did this dunderhead already forget how the Big Ten showed up against SEC teams? One of those considerably worse teams (Michigan) beat one of the SEC's best teams (Alabama). USC, who had a pretty rough go of things for their first year in the conference (under .500).....went 2-0 against two of the SEC's "VERY GOOD" teams.
 

Also.....ridiculous article.



There's a considerable drop down to the next tier after Illinois? But the SEC doesn't have that same gap. Did this dunderhead already forget how the Big Ten showed up against SEC teams? One of those considerably worse teams (Michigan) beat one of the SEC's best teams (Alabama). USC, who had a really rough go of things for their first year in the conference.....went 2-0 against two of the SEC's "VERY GOOD" teams.
But I mean....how good is comparing head to head results really? Far better to listen to the talking heads and pre-season polls that tell us how superior the SEC is in all ways. That is a much more reliable metric to rely on then how the teams actually did when on the field against each other.

And as we all know.....It Just Means More....can't compete with that.
 



I think there is the perception that the SEC is deeper due to the love they get from ESPN but overall the two conferences are very similar.

The one big difference might be that the top of the SEC is not as well defined as the top of the Big Ten is. But both conference are very deep with a lot of quality teams from top to bottom.
Perceptions definitely there but this year the proof is in the pudding. Very mediocre Michigan team beat media darling Bama, disappointing USC team beat Texas A&M, Illinois beat South Carolina. Iowa with their fifth string QB somehow put 24 on Mizzou in a three points loss. On another note would have loved to have faced ole Miss think that would have been a great game and an opportunity to put exclamation point on BIG 10+8 superiority
 

The SEC was also the largest conference for years. So that of course makes it easier to have more teams doing well.
 

But I mean....how good is comparing head to head results really? Far better to listen to the talking heads and pre-season polls that tell us how superior the SEC is in all ways. That is a much more reliable metric to rely on then how the teams actually did when on the field against each other.

And as we all know.....It Just Means More....can't compete with that.

Damn it all.....I never remember to factor in the fact that it means more in the SEC. Plus the ball they play with is heavier than the footballs that the other conferences play with.....so their players are all more athletic and strong. It's been confirmed by the internet.
 

Perceptions definitely there but this year the proof is in the pudding. Very mediocre Michigan team beat media darling Bama, disappointing USC team beat Texas A&M, Illinois beat South Carolina. Iowa with their fifth string QB somehow put 24 on Mizzou in a three points loss. On another note would have loved to have faced ole Miss think that would have been a great game and an opportunity to put exclamation point on BIG 10+8 superiority

USC also beat LSU at the beginning of the year. These are SEC teams that the author considers "very good". While basically writing off the teams lower than 5th in the Big Ten as nonfactors. The logic at play is nowhere to be found.
 




Assuming this is a ranking of the coach in the job and how there doing relative to the perceived expectations of their job, not a ranking of the job itself
 

It’s really hard to compare conferences but the bottom of the sec and ACC will always appear better than the bottom of big 12 and Big 10 as long as they former guarantee their league fewer losses than the latter by having fewer conference games.
 





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