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Gray was physically able to play and couldn't play QB is a stunner. We burn a redshirt and put the experiment that is MG into a strangely familiar position, which is out of position. Is this abuse? Choice? NFL bridging? The confusion around this kid is absolutely amazing. I hope MG graduates and stops thinking about football and continues on with a real life as father and family man. But, as a football prospect, he seems to be getting shortchanged.

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Dean S said:
Gray was physically able to play and couldn't play QB is a stunner. We burn a redshirt and put the experiment that is MG into a strangely familiar position, which is out of position. Is this abuse? Choice? NFL bridging? The confusion around this kid is absolutely amazing. I hope MG graduates and stops thinking about football and continues on with a real life as father and family man. But, as a football prospect, he seems to be getting shortchanged.

This is the life of a real Gopher football player.
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May be confusing to you and many fans. Does not mean it is confusing to those directly involved.
 

Yeah, I guess all that dropping back at QB puts a lot of stress on the ankles that sprinting and cutting at WR just doesn't.

What a waste of a college career, but I guess that's what happens when you drink the Brewster kool-aid. I'll be surprised if he isn't able to catch on in the NFL. He is a natural born football player.
 

Dean S said:
Gray was physically able to play and couldn't play QB is a stunner. We burn a redshirt and put the experiment that is MG into a strangely familiar position, which is out of position. Is this abuse? Choice? NFL bridging? The confusion around this kid is absolutely amazing. I hope MG graduates and stops thinking about football and continues on with a real life as father and family man. But, as a football prospect, he seems to be getting shortchanged.

This is the life of a real Gopher football player.
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We needed to burn the red shirt...we need a QB that can pass!! This had to happen now even with Shortell and Gray healthy. Shortell was just not an accurate QB.
 

Dean S said:
Gray was physically able to play and couldn't play QB is a stunner. We burn a redshirt and put the experiment that is MG into a strangely familiar position, which is out of position. Is this abuse? Choice? NFL bridging? The confusion around this kid is absolutely amazing. I hope MG graduates and stops thinking about football and continues on with a real life as father and family man. But, as a football prospect, he seems to be getting shortchanged.

This is the life of a real Gopher football player.
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Have you ever had a high ankle sprain? It doesn't heal overnight. There is a lot stress put on that ankle from the WR spot than from a running QB spot.

How is he getting shortchanged as a football prospect? I think it's pretty clear that he doesn't have the ability to play QB at the next level, he does have a legitimate shot of getting to the NFL as a WR or TE, getting more playing time there now actually benefits him more in the long run if playing in the league is his goal.
 


Dean S said:
Gray was physically able to play and couldn't play QB is a stunner. We burn a redshirt and put the experiment that is MG into a strangely familiar position, which is out of position. Is this abuse? Choice? NFL bridging? The confusion around this kid is absolutely amazing. I hope MG graduates and stops thinking about football and continues on with a real life as father and family man. But, as a football prospect, he seems to be getting shortchanged.

This is the life of a real Gopher football player.
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Question for you: What are Gray's strengths as a QB? In answering this question, you should be able to find your answer as to why the coaches decided it would be better to play him at WR than at QB.

QB: Strengths - Running/Cutting/Option reads Weaknesses: Dropping back and passing

WR: Much more able to run vertically (which puts less stress on the ankle than running/cutting/options).

The other factor to think about is that we had 2 starting WR's that didn't make the trip - so that position was extremely thin.
 

Amazing Dean. Did you see Gray's left ankle. He had so much tape on it that one would think he had elephantiasis. With Limy and his 12-16 QB draws and Borland taking cheap shots Gray would've ended up on the meat wagon.
 

SickAndTiredOfLosingToWI said:
Yeah, I guess all that dropping back at QB puts a lot of stress on the ankles that sprinting and cutting at WR just doesn't.

What a waste of a college career, but I guess that's what happens when you drink the Brewster kool-aid. I'll be surprised if he isn't able to catch on in the NFL. He is a natural born football player.
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In our offense, you take considerably more punishment at QB than WR. It's not even close.
 

Dean S said:
Gray was physically able to play and couldn't play QB is a stunner. We burn a redshirt and put the experiment that is MG into a strangely familiar position, which is out of position. Is this abuse? Choice? NFL bridging? The confusion around this kid is absolutely amazing. I hope MG graduates and stops thinking about football and continues on with a real life as father and family man. But, as a football prospect, he seems to be getting shortchanged.

This is the life of a real Gopher football player.
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Do you mean his graduate studies? He has already completed his undergrad. I'm surprised that a huge fan like you didn't know that.
 



If healthy, I'd rather see Gray at QB. I'm a skeptic as to whether Nelson can stay uninjured and whether he can hit 65% or so passing. Wasn't Gray around 60% and leading the league in proficiency before he was hurt?
 

Great Plains Gopher said:
If healthy, I'd rather see Gray at QB. I'm a skeptic as to whether Nelson can stay uninjured and whether he can hit 65% or so passing. Wasn't Gray around 60% and leading the league in proficiency before he was hurt?
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Yeah he was, but against inferior talent to the big ten. So those stats cant be set in stone. He only played a game in a half also, so I think your premise is not quite correct.
 

Dean S said:
Gray was physically able to play and couldn't play QB is a stunner. We burn a redshirt and put the experiment that is MG into a strangely familiar position, which is out of position. Is this abuse? Choice? NFL bridging? The confusion around this kid is absolutely amazing. I hope MG graduates and stops thinking about football and continues on with a real life as father and family man. But, as a football prospect, he seems to be getting shortchanged.

This is the life of a real Gopher football player.
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The poor kid is getting moved to his best position, the one he's most likely to get a look at in the NFL. The one that allows him to stay healthier and take less of a pounding. I hope he's OK.
 

ruppertflywheel said:
Amazing Dean. Did you see Gray's left ankle. He had so much tape on it that one would think he had elephantiasis. With Limy and his 12-16 QB draws and Borland taking cheap shots Gray would've ended up on the meat wagon.
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No. I did not see the game for more than about 2 minutes. So, my questions were not just rhetorical nonsense.
 



Unregistered User said:
Do you mean his graduate studies? He has already completed his undergrad. I'm surprised that a huge fan like you didn't know that.
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Although I like to keep up with these kids, it doesn't mean I follow their every move. I'm not that freaky, but am creepy.
 


I am surprised that this has not been discussed, but in my opinion it was unfair to both Gray and Nelson to throw Gray out there at WR yesterday. It was clear Gray could not cut or get in and out of breaks. This caused 2 or 3 incompletions I can remember off the top of my head. Even with the others that were hurt, we could have still rolled with McDonald, Barker and Engel and cut down on all the subbing in and out of receivers that we see each game.
 


Stan The Caddy said:
I am surprised that this has not been discussed, but in my opinion it was unfair to both Gray and Nelson to throw Gray out there at WR yesterday. It was clear Gray could not cut or get in and out of breaks. This caused 2 or 3 incompletions I can remember off the top of my head. Even with the others that were hurt, we could have still rolled with McDonald, Barker and Engel and cut down on all the subbing in and out of receivers that we see each game.
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This is precisely my point. Playing an injured player instead of a non injured player tells me the coaches have zero faith in the abilities of lower ranked players. Playing the injured just invites more injury, risk of play failure (like interceptions), and other disastrous results. Let the kids who practice every day play.
 


ruppertflywheel said:
Amazing Dean. Did you see Gray's left ankle. He had so much tape on it that one would think he had elephantiasis. With Limy and his 12-16 QB draws and Borland taking cheap shots Gray would've ended up on the meat wagon.
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+1
His running as QB would have required far more cuts and twisting evading tackles on his ankles then at WR where he can run more routes. They also showed his ankle taped on the outside of his shoes. I doubt he spends much more time behind center since his ankle will not get the rest it needs to heal up properly before the season is over.
 

calminnfan said:
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His running as QB would have required far more cuts and twisting evading tackles on his ankles then at WR where he can run more routes. They also showed his ankle taped on the outside of his shoes. I doubt he spends much more time behind center since his ankle will not get the rest it needs to heal up properly before the season is over.
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You must have missed my post about how I didn't even see 98% of the game.
 

calminnfan said:
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His running as QB would have required far more cuts and twisting evading tackles on his ankles then at WR where he can run more routes. They also showed his ankle taped on the outside of his shoes. I doubt he spends much more time behind center since his ankle will not get the rest it needs to heal up properly before the season is over.
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Adding Chris Borland cheap shots would have probably dislocated his ankle.
 

calminnfan said:
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His running as QB would have required far more cuts and twisting evading tackles on his ankles then at WR where he can run more routes. They also showed his ankle taped on the outside of his shoes. I doubt he spends much more time behind center since his ankle will not get the rest it needs to heal up properly before the season is over.
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He also is not required to be in on every snap, which you would expect if he were in at QB. I still want to see him at QB, I feel it's the best way for us to win games, but this appears the best way to handle a crappy situation.
 

Dean S said:
Although I like to keep up with these kids, it doesn't mean I follow their every move. I'm not that freaky, but am creepy.
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His degree was mentioned in both newspaper profiles this year.
 

SickAndTiredOfLosingToWI said:
In part because we don't really have a QB who can reliably complete passes, so why not just sit him until he's 100%?
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Because he could play WR and we were without DCT, Fruechte and Jones. I am not sure if any of those guys got snaps but they were extremely limited.
 

Dean S said:
Although I like to keep up with these kids, it doesn't mean I follow their every move. I'm not that freaky, but am creepy.
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You don't have to follow their every move, they talk about it on just about every telecast or radio broadcast of the game.
 


So, you did not see the game, but you felt the need to start this thread with essentially zero information on the subject? Gotta love the insight that comes from internet message boards....

Dean S said:
You must have missed my post about how I didn't even see 98% of the game.
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SickAndTiredOfLosingToWI said:
Yeah, I guess all that dropping back at QB puts a lot of stress on the ankles that sprinting and cutting at WR just doesn't.

What a waste of a college career, but I guess that's what happens when you drink the Brewster kool-aid. I'll be surprised if he isn't able to catch on in the NFL. He is a natural born football player.
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Huh? Are you forgetting that under Brewster, Gray was well on his way to becoming a very productive wide receiver?
 

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