Gophers open as (+3) underdogs at Wisconsin

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Basically a pick-em when you take into consideration the 2.5-3 point home field factor.

Go Gophers!!
 


I saw +9.5 last night. Thought it was a crazy spread.
 

I actually thought the Gophs would be favored in this one. Badger defense is very good, offense is very bad.

Gophers running game and offensive line is really good. For as solid as the Badger defense is, they don't tackle well. I can see Mo and crew gashing this badger D, and I don't see Wisconsin's offense scoring many points in this one.

If I could place a bet in MN my money would be on Gophs +3.
 

BleedGopher said:
Basically a pick-em when you take into consideration the 2.5-3 point home field factor.

Go Gophers!!
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Sagarin rates Wisconsin as having a 52% chance of winning and ESPN has about the same so that is about as close to a "Pick em" as you can get.
 




Why would people pick MN? If we had played WSU and they played CO our records would be flipped and it is at their place. We have beaten no one - there is no reason to pick MN over WI on the road other than they are both bad.
 

Tucker32 said:
Why would people pick MN? If we had played WSU and they played CO our records would be flipped and it is at their place. We have beaten no one - there is no reason to pick MN over WI on the road other than they are both bad.
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If they had beat Michigan state we would have the same record.
If we had beat Purdue we would be two games up!

People would pick MN because they think MN is going to win is my assumption
 

as of right now, the Gophers are a one-dimensional offense. Yes, that one dimension is really good - when Mo is carrying the ball. But it's still a one-dimensional offense.

I think that the home team getting 3 points is just about right.
 

Some guy said:
If they had beat Michigan state we would have the same record.
If we had beat Purdue we would be two games up!

People would pick MN because they think MN is going to win is my assumption
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Agreed. No reason to think the badgers walk through Minnesota. What have they done to think that would be possible. This is not a normal badger team. Worse than last year and the gophers beat them last year. I have zero confidence in the badge right now. Like i said before they might give the badgers the axe handle and Minnesota the head and call it a day.
 



MNBadgerGuy said:
I actually thought the Gophs would be favored in this one. Badger defense is very good, offense is very bad.

Gophers running game and offensive line is really good. For as solid as the Badger defense is, they don't tackle well. I can see Mo and crew gashing this badger D, and I don't see Wisconsin's offense scoring many points in this one.

If I could place a bet in MN my money would be on Gophs +3.
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Mo had over 250 rushing yards against Iowa, and our total running yards were over 300. Incredibly, we scored only 10 points. With a complementary passing game, this would normally have been a 28-35 point offensive effort, or more.

Against an above average B1G defense, the going gets very tough in the red zone for an offense like the Gophers’—an offense that plays with one hand tied behind its back and is extremely predictable when employing the other, free hand. Whether we win and beat the spread is, at this point, a question of whether (1) we fall behind early because our offense dithers, and (2) our OL and Mo can dominate for most of the game not only between the 20s, but in the red zone.

Go Gophers. End the season on a high note. Plenty of low notes already.
 

Guaranteed loss. The loss last week is the type that stings for a player and carries over to the next week. The loss of any hope of a marquis bowl game and now going into Camp Randall. Yeah, this could actually get ugly. Minnesota does not win games that matter and I have completely lost confidence in Fleck's game day coaching.
 

Five for fighting said:
Guaranteed loss. The loss last week is the type that stings for a player and carries over to the next week. The loss of any hope of a marquis bowl game and now going into Camp Randall. Yeah, this could actually get ugly. Minnesota does not win games that matter and I have completely lost confidence in Fleck's game day coaching.
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You're entitled to your opinion about Saturday (although I think MN wins), but the bolded is just untrue. They often win games that matter against good teams: Wisconsin and Purdue last year, PSU in 2019, Wisconsin & Purdue in 2018, 3 bowl games including one over a Top 10 team. There's more depending on your definition of "matters". They don't win EVERY game that matters (and arguably haven't gotten one this year), but they're won plenty in recent years.
 

MNBadgerGuy said:
I actually thought the Gophs would be favored in this one. Badger defense is very good, offense is very bad.

Gophers running game and offensive line is really good. For as solid as the Badger defense is, they don't tackle well. I can see Mo and crew gashing this badger D, and I don't see Wisconsin's offense scoring many points in this one.

If I could place a bet in MN my money would be on Gophs +3.
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Sounds like the Squakeye game
 

MGGopher said:
You're entitled to your opinion about Saturday (although I think MN wins), but the bolded is just untrue. They often win games that matter against good teams: Wisconsin and Purdue last year, PSU in 2019, Wisconsin & Purdue in 2018, 3 bowl games including one over a Top 10 team. There's more depending on your definition of "matters". They don't win EVERY game that matters (and arguably haven't gotten one this year), but they're won plenty in recent years.
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Wisconsin or Iowa in 2019 would be the definintion of games that matter.
 

I'm still trying to figure out where the other dude got +9 from. Every legit book I've checked opened at 3 or 3.5 except FanDuel, which opened at 7.5 immediately after the Iowa game but was down to 3 the next day. This game is a coin flip in the eyes of most, and for good reason. It's likely to look very familiar to the Iowa game which easily could've went either way.
 

PMWinSTP said:
Wisconsin or Iowa in 2019 would be the definintion of games that matter.
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Oh, I totally agree. I was at the Iowa game, and believe me -- it mattered very much to me. But didn't PSU matter that year? Auburn? Did Wisconsin in 2018 matter with bowl eligibility on the line and a ridiculously long losing streak against them?

I agree Minnesota has lost many games that matter but they've won some too. The post I quoted said they "never" win games that matter. I personally expect them to win on Saturday, but I understand why others don't. A lot of people going overboard this week, IMO.
 

MGGopher said:
Oh, I totally agree. I was at the Iowa game, and believe me -- it mattered very much to me. But didn't PSU matter that year? Auburn? Did Wisconsin in 2018 matter with bowl eligibility on the line and a ridiculously long losing streak against them?

I agree Minnesota has lost many games that matter but they've won some too. The post I quoted said they "never" win games that matter. I personally expect them to win on Saturday, but I understand why others don't. A lot of people going overboard this week, IMO.
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They didn’t mattwr

But if they were lost the other games that we lost wouldn’t of mattered



Hot take;
All the games matter
 

Five for fighting said:
Guaranteed loss. The loss last week is the type that stings for a player and carries over to the next week. The loss of any hope of a marquis bowl game and now going into Camp Randall. Yeah, this could actually get ugly. Minnesota does not win games that matter and I have completely lost confidence in Fleck's game day coaching.
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Glad your not on the team. I feel the opposite, it is an opportunity to get pissed and dominate which they are capable of doing. Mo won't be down and neither will our D.
 

gopherjay said:
Glad your not on the team. I feel the opposite, it is an opportunity to get pissed and dominate which they are capable of doing. Mo won't be down and neither will our D.
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I sincerely hope your right. I really do. But I've seen this movie before as have you. Blind faith is a good thing and I wish I possessed it. You are forgetting the Fleck factor. And I was a huge fan of his but I simply cannot overlook the brutal game day decisions. They are glaring.
 

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