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upnorthkid said:
Not saying anything about “encrypting”? No idea what that is. Just looking at the stats that are public record
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MPLS police encrypted all the channels so people can't listen to what's going on and can't hear suspect information. Then when they book them they are now classifying the crimes as way softer things than what they were
 

upnorthkid said:
It’s the coach coupled recruiting and scouting being drastically easier in an era off national tournaments and select teams.

Some people don’t want a major metro campus. DU is every bit as woke of a campus as MN. About every major college campus is outside of private, religious affiliated (think is part of why GCU has taken off as a destination school).

Campus safety is a big deal everywhere. There are stories of violence, sa, and theft at them all and many lore go unreported. Violence is actually form in Minneapolis which you hope is a real trend and not just lack of cases being processed (not here to debate this as it just gets political). The U seems to care and try in this regard from my time there recently.

This is a really sad story on what’s supposed to be a very happy day and I think rather overblown to try make this a university or hockey recruiting story like this is commonplace

Players hopes du for Carle and the winningest team title wise in history. Michigan for history and money. Wisconsin for ties and a smaller town (can’t imagine many are going to play Hastings style especially when he may not be the coach in a few years at this pace). UND for ties and history plus being the only show in town. Lots of great schools nationwide that speak to many people for differing reasons
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I think the other UND D1 programs would have something to say about UND hockey as the ONLY show in town. I do agree that UND hockey is the number 1 sport in town.
 

pinball said:
I think the other UND D1 programs would have something to say about UND hockey as the ONLY show in town. I do agree that UND hockey is the number 1 sport in town.
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I went there for undergrad. It’s the only show in town 😅
 

bonin21 said:
I don't really understand your sales pitch having any specific examples of resources (which now includes NIL), coaching, or development that is better than any of the other big guns that can offer more money. Mariucci is now 30+ years old and most big teams' facilities have now caught up or surpassed.

Great crowds could be one but we know how MN fans are when it's not going amazingly.
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It’s always the combination and what’s right for the player. Mariucci is huge and rockin when it’s filled. The Ralph is really the only other one scale wise. The combination of that plus the track record of guys in the league is what you’re selling on as well as how you’ve developed guys into nhl players, including ones who weren’t on radars, that’s your ticket. Speaks to some, not to others. Same as Michigan’s does, unds does, msus does, dus does. The u is on par with people. We’re not better than them and yes it’s on the program to figure out NIL and abuse it moreso than we have, though it’s going to have to strike a balance it’s probably more swaying for those not from MN than it is the homegrown guy and clearly people will have an issue if the roster becomes drastically less Minnesotan. Tough line to walk in years when in state talent is down or doesn’t develop as well as you hope
 

bonin21 said:
I don't really understand your sales pitch having any specific examples of resources (which now includes NIL), coaching, or development that is better than any of the other big guns that can offer more money. Mariucci is now 30+ years old and most big teams' facilities have now caught up or surpassed.

Great crowds could be one but we know how MN fans are when it's not going amazingly.
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What big teams facilities have caught up or surpassed Mariucci?
 


pinball said:
What big teams facilities have caught up or surpassed Mariucci?
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Ralph is obviously nicer.

PSU has a nicer arena overall and unlimited money. MSU had a $26MM renovation.

Every morning I wake up sick and annoyed when I first check twitter and see how Gopher hockey is so far behind now and Choke-zko didn't win the title with a team of potentially four Olympians three years later.

McKenna - Elsewhere, probably MSU
Martone - Elsewhere
Lindstrom - MSU
Misa - Elsewhere
Verhoeff - UND
Reschny - UND
Spence - UM
Carbonneau - BC
Smith - PSU
Lakovic - Slight hope... but I doubt it.

Plus all the first rounders stacking up elsewhere:
Hage - UM
Howard - MSU
Stramel - MSU
Emery - UND
Boisvert - BU
Eiserman - BU
Boumedienne - BU
Murtagh - BU
Hagens - BC
Letourneau - BC
Hensler - uw
Potter - ASU
 



bonin21 said:
Ralph is obviously nicer.

PSU has a nicer arena overall and unlimited money. MSU had a $26MM renovation.

Every morning I wake up sick and annoyed when I first check twitter and see how Gopher hockey is so far behind now and Choke-zko didn't win the title with a team of potentially four Olympians three years later.

McKenna - Elsewhere, probably MSU
Martone - Elsewhere
Lindstrom - MSU
Misa - Elsewhere
Verhoeff - UND
Reschny - UND
Spence - UM
Carbonneau - BC
Smith - PSU
Lakovic - Slight hope... but I doubt it.

Plus all the first rounders stacking up elsewhere:
Hage - UM
Howard - MSU
Stramel - MSU
Emery - UND
Boisvert - BU
Eiserman - BU
Boumedienne - BU
Murtagh - BU
Hagens - BC
Letourneau - BC
Hensler - uw
Potter - ASU
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Have you been in PSU or Michigan State arena? You also said "most big teams" arenas have surpassed Mariucci, so besides the Ralph what arenas have you seen that are better than Mariucci?
 
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pinball said:
Have you been in PSU or Michigan State arena? You also said "most big teams" arenas have surpassed Mariucci, so besides the Ralph what arenas have you seen that are better than Mariucci?
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I’ve been in pegula. It’s very “nice” in the way all newer rinks are “nicer” than the Mariucci. Think Mariucci is still nicer than Munn even with the upgrade. Much more mystique with Mariucci. The Ralph is consistently more packed and raucous, but feels like an nhl rink and atmosphere which isn’t my cup or tea (went to college there so watched an awful lot of hockey there as student season tickets were like 75 bucks or something).

Kind of just depends on what you like in an arena. Atmosphere wise Mariucci is lacking at times (in part because there are so many corporate seats that sit empty for most of the year). Tough because the U obviously wants to make money on ST and general public tickets, but think you’d make a much better atmosphere expanding the student section to make students a higher percentage of the rink. It’s the advantage some of the smaller rinks have as their volume can be much more felt either a smaller number versus Mariucci which is a bit more cavernous comparatively.

Think we have the best rink in the Big Ten. What they do with the atmosphere and inside the rink with fans is a different discussion (and I know not your question, but some people lump them)
 



McKennas advisor said he’s not doing anything until after the draft as far as talking to schools and visiting. Shocker no one has any idea and are just doing things for clicks.

Seems like a pretty level headed approach which makes most sense based on who drafts him and what they want for him going forward
 



upnorthkid said:
McKennas advisor said he’s not doing anything until after the draft as far as talking to schools and visiting. Shocker no one has any idea and are just doing things for clicks.

Seems like a pretty level headed approach which makes most sense based on who drafts him and what they want for him going forward
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Mckenna is a 2026 draft. That is, the #1 overall pick in 2026.
 


pinball said:
Have you been in PSU or Michigan State arena? You also said "most big teams" arenas have surpassed Mariucci, so besides the Ralph what arenas have you seen that are better than Mariucci?
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Bonin, still waiting for your reply on what "arenas" that you have seen have surpassed Mariucci.
 

upnorthkid said:
Ah yes you’reright. Apologies. Well still stands that his advisor has said they’re going to sit until post draft

Article for those who care

www.eliteprospects.com

Gavin McKenna Playing the Long Game: Top Prospect Taking His Time on NCAA Decision

The tsunami of college commitments has started to build in the deeper waters. The list of junior-aged CHLers who have officially committed to an NCAA program for next season is...
www.eliteprospects.com www.eliteprospects.com
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Interesting, I would be shocked if he's not going right to the NHL once drafted. I admittedly am not as clued in as most on this message board but I was always under the assumption that if he does play college hockey it would be as a 17 year old pre-draft year kind of like Celebrini.
 

Gophers1992 said:
Interesting, I would be shocked if he's not going right to the NHL once drafted. I admittedly am not as clued in as most on this message board but I was always under the assumption that if he does play college hockey it would be as a 17 year old pre-draft year kind of like Celebrini.
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Yes that has been known the whole time that it would be for this year then straight to the NHL. A la Eichel, he'd be a very likely Hobey winner.
 

pinball said:
Bonin, still waiting for your reply on what "arenas" that you have seen have surpassed Mariucci.
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I said facilities not arena. Though I'm sure you don't know the difference.

A filled Mariucci as an arena is top 2 in the country.
 

bonin21 said:
I said facilities not arena. Though I'm sure you don't know the difference.

A filled Mariucci as an arena is top 2 in the country.
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Ok, in terms of facilities what teams have passed Mariucci? In an earlier post I asked you this question and the only school you said was UND. That is "one" school and you said "many big schools" have surpassed Mariucci. Who are these many big schools?
Also, you said Pagula (Penn State arena) is an overall nicer arena than Mariucci, what makes Pagula nicer than Mariucci?
 
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pinball said:
Ok, in terms of facilities what teams have passed Mariucci?
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UND, MSU, PSU, ASU. WMU new arena when done surely.

Not many but these are some of the teams (outside of ASU) outrecruiting the Gophers by a mile on top of UM, BC, and BU.
 

bonin21 said:
UND, MSU, PSU, ASU. WMU new arena when done surely.

Not many but these are some of the teams (outside of ASU) outrecruiting the Gophers by a mile on top of UM, BC, and BU.
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Have you seen the facilities at UND, MSU, PSU, ASU to make this comment?
 


bonin21 said:
Watch the tours on Youtube
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Honestly thought our video was a little lackluster for content unfortunately. Spent so much time covering tape and laces it made it seem cheap lol

UND id our pretty on par with our facilities. The Ralph is nicer if you like that kind of rink. Grand forks a big negative.

PSU having the athletic department they do is a huge advantage, plus pegula ear marking money for them. The U has consistently been behind its B10 peers in this regard for a long time.

ASU will still have the issue of lack of history and track record, for now. Would be curious to see what their financials look like and how the University as a whole views it as their expenses have to be quite high
 

bonin21 said:
Watch the tours on Youtube
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I don't need to watch the youtube videos, I have taken tours of the facilies you mentioned and although they are nice they are on par with Mariucci not surpassed.
What is your reason why Penn States arena is nicer than Mariucci?
 

Phillips basically confirmed playing junior. So to get to 8 D he probably will fill with undrafted DU reject McLaughlin as figured. Yay. Suppose I shouldn't really care since I'm writing this season off as a retirement parage and the worse they end up the faster the next era can start.

Maybe when McKenna chooses his Michigan school Bob could call his teammate:
www.eliteprospects.com

Bryce Pickford - Stats, Contract, Salary & More

Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Bryce Pickford, 2006-04-02 Edmonton, AB, CAN Canada. Most recently in the WHL with Medicine Hat Tigers. Complete player biography and stats.
www.eliteprospects.com www.eliteprospects.com

Ha, ya right that would require active recruiting
 

upnorthkid said:
Honestly thought our video was a little lackluster for content unfortunately. Spent so much time covering tape and laces it made it seem cheap lol

UND id our pretty on par with our facilities. The Ralph is nicer if you like that kind of rink. Grand forks a big negative.

PSU having the athletic department they do is a huge advantage, plus pegula ear marking money for them. The U has consistently been behind its B10 peers in this regard for a long time.

ASU will still have the issue of lack of history and track record, for now. Would be curious to see what their financials look like and how the University as a whole views it as their expenses have to be quite high
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Some people say this (bolded part above) but I don't think this is true. Men's hockey is one of five sports at the U designated to receive "revenue sharing" NIL funds. Not every BIG school is that way. What university would have more loyal hockey boosters than the U? We have more hockey fans in MN than anywhere else in the country (many with deep pockets). It makes no sense to me that we'd be behind in funding. And I don't think we are.
 

1000 fans donating 100 doesn't beat one giving a million. If people were giving as much as you think we'd be in the CHL discussions.
 

Crosby said:
Some people say this (bolded part above) but I don't think this is true. Men's hockey is one of five sports at the U designated to receive "revenue sharing" NIL funds. Not every BIG school is that way. What university would have more loyal hockey boosters than the U? We have more hockey fans in MN than anywhere else in the country (many with deep pockets). It makes no sense to me that we'd be behind in funding. And I don't think we are.
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Based on Bob talking about Cooley getting chipotle burritos, yes I think we are.

Pots of general nil a lot of places are much much higher. This isn’t about a couple thousand, this is about having big fish. Theres a reason Perron went to Michigan as a do not contact immediately on hitting the portal. Ditto on boisvert to BU.

We’re not down at the bottom by any means, but behind PSU mich msu bu and likely bc. Hopefully we can continue to drum up money, but you need some big fish, not just the common folk donating a couple thousand, to make it long term sustainable. And it is part of where I think Bob does have some trouble drumming that up
 

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