GOP Chooses Trump And QAnon - Trump Is Gone But The Party Is Still His

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The point is, that while some on the OTB think any mention of Trump is trying to live in the past, he still has quite a bit of influence in the present. Attempts to equate saying Trump with a Godwin's Law violation are premature.

The reason why.....is because the wacko righties here don't like having it thrown in their faces. They supported the guy no matter what he did. I'm not sure that one of them has stepped up and commented on the fact that he's still the face of the party.....and that the non-stolen election and the impeachment voting repubs are being dismantled. The core of their party is weeding out those that aren't behind Trump.

And they are silent on it. A chance to break away from the orange moron and instead they are doubling down. Talk about WACKY! Who knows though. Some of the guys that say they voted for someone else are total liars. Their posting history suggests that they would vote for David Duke if he were the repub candidate the way that they defend everything right and hate everything left.
 

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KGF, Spoof and Fool2 will be along shortly to attack the source and also explain why 28% of the their beloved party supporting a violent uprising is no big deal.
Yes Howie - if you believe that 23% of Republicans think "the government, media, and financial worlds in the US are controlled by a group of Satan-worshipping pedophiles who run a global child sex trafficking operation" or that 28% of Republicans support a "violent uprising" you are a bigger idiot than I already think you are. And that would be very difficult to accomplish. So - yea, I am calling the "Public Religion Research Institute's" Poll BS. You, on the other-hand, will continue to tout it's claim as fact and spew it for months and years. Such a fool.
 

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Yes. But only a few nuts believed it. A full 1/4 to 1/3 of Trumpers believe it. Tens of millions of people. And you're "sympathetic" and support the BS "audit" that will be the fuel for their next uprising. So this is on you. These are your people. Own it.
A few nuts like Newsweek
 

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KGF, Spoof and Fool2 will be along shortly to attack the source and also explain why 28% of the their beloved party supporting a violent uprising is no big deal.
Only Howie gets to attack sources. I’m sure the polling company started a decade ago by the guy who writes anti Christian and anti white books is totally on the level.
 

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The point is, that while some on the OTB think any mention of Trump is trying to live in the past, he still has quite a bit of influence in the present. Attempts to equate saying Trump with a Godwin's Law violation are premature.
He would have a lot left influence if the left didn’t constantly talk about him. And he never would have won the nomination without all the leftist media attention, especially MSNBC.
 





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Desantis is a complete moron. He'd be a perfect fit as Trump's VP nomination. Please let that train wreck happen. It'd be an absolute stomping in 2024 for the Democrats.
They'd lose by 10-20 million votes, given a fair voting system. Hell, given an unfair voting system, they will still probably lose by 10+ million votes nationwide, but fraud the Electoral College through a few states like AZ and WI and GA and PA where Republican legislatures will do everything they can to throw out the legal ballot count and install Dear Leader and DeSantolini, just as they are trying to do now.

We are one or two elections away from the loss of a fair, liberal democracy in favor of the Idiocracy. First chance today's Republicans get, they will install an illiberal "democracy", followed by a series of laws designed to give Republicans full control over all things "elections", effectively eliminate fair elections to retain their minority rule, and a firm RW/fascist rule is inevitable thereafter. Sinema and Manchin must wake up and ensure Congress passes fair voting standardization/rights, or the end of liberal democracy is inevitable.
 
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OMG! You are so right. I mean it says right there that Newsweek is demanding! that Clinton be proclaimed president. It's not at all a far-fetched thought experiment to get dipshits like you to click on their site.

Newsweek....so much power....
 






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We are one or two elections away from the loss of a fair, liberal democracy in favor of the Idiocracy. First chance today's Republicans get, they will install an illiberal "democracy", followed by a series of laws designed to give Republicans full control over all things "elections", effectively eliminate fair elections to retain their minority rule, and a firm RW/fascist rule is inevitable thereafter. Sinema and Manchin must wake up and ensure Congress passes fair voting standardization/rights, or the end of liberal democracy is inevitable.
Sadly true. And the 40% are thrilled at this prospect.

Surely Manchin knows he is toast in 2024 no matter what he does. He should do the write thing. I'm not sure what Sinema's deal is, but hopefully she can be reasoned with.
 

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#BlueAnon is strong in this one ⬇️
They'd lose by 10-20 million votes, given a fair voting system. Hell, given an unfair voting system, they will still probably lose by 10+ million votes nationwide, but fraud the Electoral College through a few states like AZ and WI and GA and PA where Republican legislatures will do everything they can to throw out the legal ballot count and install Dear Leader and DeSantolini, just as they are trying to do now.

We are one or two elections away from the loss of a fair, liberal democracy in favor of the Idiocracy. First chance today's Republicans get, they will install an illiberal "democracy", followed by a series of laws designed to give Republicans full control over all things "elections", effectively eliminate fair elections to retain their minority rule, and a firm RW/fascist rule is inevitable thereafter. Sinema and Manchin must wake up and ensure Congress passes fair voting standardization/rights, or the end of liberal democracy is inevitable.
 



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OMG! You are so right. I mean it says right there that Newsweek is demanding! that Clinton be proclaimed president. It's not at all a far-fetched thought experiment to get dipshits like you to click on their site.
Takedown and Near Fall points have been awarded to Jake.
 



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Check out this winner....
A poll released last week by the Public Religion Research Institute found that nearly a quarter (23 percent) of Republicans agreed with the statement, "the government, media, and financial worlds in the U.S. are controlled by a group of Satan-worshipping pedophiles who run a global child sex trafficking operation." Furthermore, 28 percent of Republicans said they believe that "true American patriots" may need to resort to violence to save the U.S. because it has gone so off track.
When you ask a ridiculous question, you get a ridiculous answer.
 

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OMG! You are so right. I mean it says right there that Newsweek is demanding! that Clinton be proclaimed president. It's not at all a far-fetched thought experiment to get dipshits like you to click on their site.
So name the conservative news sites that are claiming Trump should or will be reinstated b/c he’s the rightful President? Not one that I’ve read. So disappointing to howie.
 


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KGF, Spoof and Fool2 will be along shortly to attack the source and also explain why 28% of the their beloved party supporting a violent uprising is no big deal.
Proof...that if you repeat this narrative long enough, you will, in fact, believe it.
 

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So name the conservative news sites that are claiming Trump should or will be reinstated b/c he’s the rightful President? Not one that I’ve read. So disappointing to howie.
I couldn't care less what some news site says. What's important to me is the jackasses filing ridiculous lawsuits and demanding audits after literally every prior attempt has failed miserably and it's long past the point of justifiable questioning. The January 6 events should have been a bullet to the head of that entire movement. But it wasn't. And you know God-damned well it wasn't. And that is beyond shameful.
 

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Lol. It's the pollsters fault for asking, not the cult's fault for believing it, right? Pathetic.
I think you missed the point. If you ask a stupid question, some people will give you a sarcastic answer.

Have you ever heard of the Public Religion Research Institute before this poll? But now they are most credible in your book.
 

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I couldn't care less what some news site says. What's important to me is the jackasses filing ridiculous lawsuits and demanding audits after literally every prior attempt has failed miserably and it's long past the point of justifiable questioning. The January 6 events should have been a bullet to the head of that entire movement. But it wasn't. And you know God-damned well it wasn't. And that is beyond shameful.
If it actually represented more the a fraction of 1% of the Right, you’d have a point. It didn’t. It doesn’t. It never will.
 

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Lol. It's the pollsters fault for asking, not the cult's fault for believing it, right? Pathetic.
howie, here is the CEO of this polling “institute”. Very mainstream 😂🤣😂🤣:

Robert P. Jones is the CEO and Founder of PRRI and a leading scholar and commentator on religion, culture, and politics. He is the author of “White Too Long: The Legacy of White Supremacy in American Christianity,” and “The End of White Christian America,” which won the 2019 Grawemeyer Award in Religion. Jones writes regularly on politics, culture, and religion for The Atlantic online, NBC Think, and other outlets. He is frequently featured in major national media, such as CNN, MSNBC, NPR, The New York Times, The Washington Post, and others.

 

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So name the conservative news sites that are claiming Trump should or will be reinstated b/c he’s the rightful President? Not one that I’ve read. So disappointing to howie.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2021...ent=featured-content-trending&utm_term=second


Two days ago, the New York Times’s Maggie Haberman reported that Donald Trump “has been telling a number of people he’s in contact with that he expects he will get reinstated by August.” In response, many figures on the right inserted their fingers into their ears and started screaming about fake news.


Instead, they should have listened — because Haberman’s reporting was correct. I can attest, from speaking to an array of different sources, that Donald Trump does indeed believe quite genuinely that he — along with former senators David Perdue and Martha McSally — will be “reinstated” to office this summer after “audits” of the 2020 elections in Arizona, Georgia, and a handful of other states have been completed. I can attest, too, that Trump is trying hard to recruit journalists, politicians, and other influential figures to promulgate this belief — not as a fundraising tool or an infantile bit of trolling or a trial balloon, but as a fact.

It will be tempting for weary conservatives to dismiss this information as “old news” or as “an irrelevance.” It will be tempting, too, to downplay the enormity of what is being claimed, or to change the subject, or to attack the messengers by implying that they must “hate” Trump and his voters. But such temptations should be assiduously avoided. We are not talking here about a fringe figure within the Republican tent, but about a man who hopes to make support for his outlandish claims “a litmus test of sorts as he decides whom to endorse for state and federal contests in 2022 and 2024.” Conservatives understand why it mattered that the press lost its collective mind over Russia after Trump’s fair-and-square victory in 2016. They understand why it mattered that Hillary Clinton publicly described Trump as an “illegitimate president” who had “stolen” the election. And they understand why it mattered that Jimmy Carter insisted that Trump had “lost the election” and been “put into office because the Russians interfered.” They should understand why this matters, too.


The scale of Trump’s delusion is quite startling. This is not merely an eccentric interpretation of the facts or an interesting foible, nor is it an irrelevant example of anguished post-presidency chatter. It is a rejection of reality, a rejection of law, and, ultimately, a rejection of the entire system of American government. There is no Reinstatement Clause within the United States Constitution. Hell, there is nothing even approximating a Reinstatement Clause within the United States Constitution. The election has been certified, Joe Biden is the president, and, until 2024, that is all there is to it. It does not matter what one’s view of Trump is. It does not matter whether one voted for or against Trump. It does not matter whether one views Trump’s role within the Republican Party favorably or unfavorably. We are talking here about cold, hard, neutral facts that obtain irrespective of one’s preferences; it is not too much to ask that the former head of the executive branch should understand them.


Just how far out there is Trump’s theory? Consider that, even if it were true that the 2020 election had been stolen — which it is absolutely not — his belief would still be absurd. It could be confirmed tomorrow that agents working for a combination of al-Qaeda, Venezuela, and George Soros had hacked into every single voting machine in the country and altered the totals by tens of millions, and it would remain the case there is no mechanism within the American legal order for a do-over of any sort. In such an eventuality, there would be indictments, an impeachment drive, and a constitutional crisis. But, however bad it got, Donald Trump would not be “reinstated” to the presidency. That is not how America works, how America has ever worked, or how America can ever work. American politicians do not lose their reelection races only to be reinstalled later on, as might the second-place horse in a race whose winner was disqualified. The idea is otherworldly and obscene.


There is nothing to be gained for conservatism by pretending otherwise. To acknowledge that Trump is living in a fantasy world does not wipe out his achievements or render anything else he has said incorrect. It does not endorse Joe Biden or hand the Republican Party over to Bill Kristol or knock down an inch of the wall on the border. It merely demands that Donald Trump be treated like any other person: subject to gravity, open to rebuttal, and liable to be laughed at when he becomes so unmoored from the real world that it is hard to know where to begin in attempting to explain him
 
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