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Thought we could get general thoughts on the matchups/snubs etc.

my first thought was that sconnie got a really tough region having to play Belmont in the first round and then Kansas sT in rd if the advance. Good news.

Colorado was a tough snub.
 

Belmont is very dangerous

VCU in? wtf?

no Colorado?

Oakland will beat Texas

love Ohio Sts road to the final 4

Kansas will be the first 1 seed to lose (to Louisville)

Wofford will give BYU all they can handle

Washington over UNC in round 2

Duke, Notre Dame, Ohio St. Pitt final 4
 

I'm surprised Colorado got snubbed, especially since they beat KSU three times.

Overall, I was surprised not about the teams that got in but some seedings are questionable.
 

OSU got hosed with 3 Big East teams, Kentucky, and UNC in their region. So much for being the overall #1 seed.
 

Colorado's non-conference SOS was 325 and the were 11-13 against the RPI top 200. They had a few nice wins, but they didn't deserve a bid.

Why is everyone whining about VCU and UAB getting bids? Clemson is weaker than both of those two teams.
 



Anyone know why Selection Sunday didn't post his predictions for the tourney field this year? Was looking forward to it.
 

z-stein said:
Colorado's non-conference SOS was 325 and the were 11-13 against the RPI top 200. They had a few nice wins, but they didn't deserve a bid.

Why is everyone whining about VCU and UAB getting bids? Clemson is weaker than both of those two teams.
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Because that's what Selection Sunday is all about: arguing about a bunch of teams who won't be around past the first weekend anyway.
 

I thought the seeding of some of the Big Ten teams (i.e., Michigan and Penn State especially) was ridiculous.
 



Jike Spingleton said:
Because that's what Selection Sunday is all about: arguing about a bunch of teams who won't be around past the first weekend anyway.
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Haha very true. I'm all for good debate, and a few teams might have some legitimate gripes, but I hate how all the talking heads are so convinced at these "good" (but actually very average) teams that got left out.
 



Would the Gophers have made a 96 team tournament?
 




z-stein said:
Colorado's non-conference SOS was 325 and the were 11-13 against the RPI top 200. They had a few nice wins, but they didn't deserve a bid.

Why is everyone whining about VCU and UAB getting bids? Clemson is weaker than both of those two teams.
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Colorado deserved a bid IMO, the non-conference SOS is such a small part of the puzzle when you look at them beating some good teams in their conference which is a lot better conference than UAB or VCU play in. They beat Texas, Mizzou, and K-state 3 times.
 

The righteous indignation for VT and Colorado is pathetic. VT choked away their bid when they got run out of their own building by BC and Colorado had an RPI of 65 and a non-conference SOS of 300+.

UAB had an RPI of 31 and VCU is a solid team at 49. No they don't have a lot of 'great' wins, but UCLA is pretty solid. The CAA is probably better than the SEC West. It wouldn't have been horrible if they were reversed, but it's hardly a travesty.
 

I actually think Minnesota would've gotten a bid had they won just a lousy 2 more games. With our non-conference schedule, I think the committee would've shocked the basketball world and put them in.
 

1. I thought Seth Greenberg would finally get VT in the field. Wow they have been on the wrong side too many times.

2. I think Florida as a 2 seed is a joke.

3. I think Texas as a 4 seed is a joke.

4. I think UAB getting in is a joke. They beat NO ONE ALL YEAR. I'd have put in VT over them.

5. I think the East is the most difficult, followed by the West, Southwest, and then the Southeast. I think the Southeast's top 4 lines might be dead last compared to each line in the other regions. I think the other 3 regions are all pretty similar in difficulty with the East getting the slight edge but boy is there a dropoff from those 3 to the Southeast. In fact, I'll say KSU is also the weakest 5th seed. Only having St John's as a 6th seed saves it from being embarrassingly easy on historic levels. Remember that the regional is in New Orleans so it's not like there is some sort of home court advantage that makes it difficult on Pitt, Florida, BYU, or Wisconsin.

6. I think Wofford could give BYU a really tough game.
 

forreal we beat 5 tourney teams.. we were that good. akron, wofford, purdue, north carolina, west virginia
 

howeda7 said:
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UAB had an RPI of 31 and VCU is a solid team at 49. No they don't have a lot of 'great' wins, but UCLA is pretty solid. The CAA is probably better than the SEC West. It wouldn't have been horrible if they were reversed, but it's hardly a travesty.
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RPI is an imperfect, skewed stat. Not saying that they shouldn't be in, but they really didn't have much for quality wins
 


mattw1067 said:
Would the Gophers have made a 96 team tournament?
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Some day it won't matter.
At the rate the NCAA is going with expansion, everyone will get in eventually.

Kinda like having 3,478, 832 bowl games in football
Some day teams with a record of 1- 11 will go to a post season bowl.
 

Goldy in da house said:
RPI is an imperfect, skewed stat. Not saying that they shouldn't be in, but they really didn't have much for quality wins
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It's imperfect, but the idea that choosing a 30's team over a team in the 60's is some grave injustice is silly.
 

Don't understand how UAB got in.

Losses to Arizona St, Tulsa, Memphis 2x, East Carolina
Wins over VCU

0 top 50 RPI wins should NOT get you into the field.
 

howeda7 said:
The righteous indignation for VT and Colorado is pathetic. VT choked away their bid when they got run out of their own building by BC and Colorado had an RPI of 65 and a non-conference SOS of 300+.

UAB had an RPI of 31 and VCU is a solid team at 49. No they don't have a lot of 'great' wins, but UCLA is pretty solid. The CAA is probably better than the SEC West. It wouldn't have been horrible if they were reversed, but it's hardly a travesty.
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It's absolutely a travesty. RPI is, IMO, a poor indicator of ranking bubble teams. UAB's RPI probably went up when they lost by 21 at Duke. Each of these teams have proven that they can lose to anybody, but UAB has hardly proven that they can beat anybody. Colorado has five wins over tournament teams, UAB has one and it was VCU, one of the last teams in.

Who cares who Colorado played in the non-conference? They proved that they can beat good teams, UAB proved they can beat NIT teams.
 

What about Clemson? They don't have a single RPI top 50 win. Not one and yet nobody complains about them.

I do agree that whining about Va Tech is stupid, that team beat Duke and thought their work was done and a bid was clinched. Colorado should have gotten in over UAB or Clemson but VCU deserved to be in. You take their resume and put Maryland's name on it and nobody is whining about them being in the field, nobody.
 

I thought Michigan, Illinois, and Penn State all got better seeds than they deserved. I find it strange that Missouri, Marquette, and Gonzaga all got lower seeds than these 3 teams. Tennessee also got a favorable seed for as many games as they lost this year. Georgia getting in as a 10 seemed generous as well, especially with Alabama on the outside looking in. I found it funny that Virginia Tech missed the tourney again, if the field is expanded to 96 (please no), the Hokies will find a way to be no.97. I didn't feel like anyone was truly robbed of a spot even though I feel for Alabama a little bit: 12-4 in the SEC and they played what many thought was a play-in game against Georgia and they took care of business.

I thought a 3 seed was a little high for BYU without Davies. I think San Diego State got a really favorable draw with a UCONN team that just played 5 games in 5 days as their roadblock to the Elite 8. Not sure of my upset picks yet as a lot of the ones I like are ones that other people are mentioning which scares me. Usually there is an Ohio over Georgetown type upset that nobody sees coming.
 

What do you all think about our pseudo-minnesota team Wofford beating BYU?? I think it is possible...
 

I think BYU is too good even with suspension.

That whole region is a difficult pick. So many questions.
 

Just a few perusings after a thorough look at the bracket.

Double-digit seeds winning in 1st round. ...
#10 Georgia over Washington
#10 Michigan State over UCLA
#10 Penn State over Temple (Temple hasn't won a 1st-round game in ages)
#11 Gonzaga over St. John's
#11 Marquette over Xavier
#11 Mizzou over Cincinnati
#12 Clemson over West Virginia (it Tigers advance past UAB in play-in)
#12 Utah State over K-State
#13 Belmont over Wisconsin
#14 Wofford over BYU

Surprises. ...
(1) Gonzaga, Utah State & Vandy to the Sweet 16.
(2) ODU to the Elite 8.
(3) Purdue to the Final 4. Something tells me March Madness will become JaJuan Johnson's stage.
(4) Florida: taking a leap of faith on the Gators. They are 13-3 vs. the tournament field.

Final 4
Ohio State vs. Texas (OSU wins)
Florida vs. Purdue (Florida wins)

Title Game
OSU over Florida
 

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