Gary Tinsley moved to DE

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Kill said in his presser yesterday that they weren't worried about who is playing where during the spring and that position changes would come after their spring evaluations???
 

Cryptic message notwithstanding, I don't know if we've got any true speed rushers in our DE corps, if indeed Kill wants a pass rush type then Tinsley or Cooper fit well, both simply had an impressive first step coming our of HS, look our if they need to stop a run though.
Best bet is to sub in some speed guys is 3rd down situations and hope Kill can reel in a few recruits for the coming years.
 

I can see it. But of course, this is Crazy Joe, so no offense man, I'll hold any further thoughts until this is confirmed elsewhere LOL
 

Ole said:
... look our if they need to stop a run though.Best bet is to sub in some speed guys is 3rd down situations and hope Kill can reel in a few recruits for the coming years.
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I agree, they might get run on some. But if its 3rd and 12, I'll take my chances on an opponent making a 12+ yard run vs. letting an unrushed QB pick our D apart. I like the idea/
 


I like our base 4-3 on run downs...but on pass downs, I always preferred the 3-4, especially if you don't have dominant ends....more options for zone blitz because you have more speed guys on the field close to the line...if our corners can press cover 1 on 1..even better because we can move the FS up to the line as well and be a 3-5 with 5 speed guys...tough to complete a pass from you butt...as my coach always used to say.
 

Monty519 said:
I can see it. But of course, this is Crazy Joe, so no offense man, I'll hold any further thoughts until this is confirmed elsewhere LOL
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Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
 

GopherinPhilly said:
I like our base 4-3 on run downs...but on pass downs, I always preferred the 3-4, especially if you don't have dominant ends....more options for zone blitz because you have more speed guys on the field close to the line...if our corners can press cover 1 on 1..even better because we can move the FS up to the line as well and be a 3-5 with 5 speed guys...tough to complete a pass from you butt...as my coach always used to say.
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Cooper looked exceptional in the 3-4 as a freshman against Cal, he's got some real blitzing instincts
 

Based on CJD's track record, I'd imagine that Tinsley will be playing TE for Valdosta St. by this fall.
 



Can we as a group try not to overreact to where one player plays on one day of practice? This is a coaching staff that is just getting to know their players and learn what they are good at. Of course they are going to move people around and experiment so that they can figure out what works and what doesn't. If Tinsley is playing there in the fall then we might be on to something but if we're going to do this with every player that tries a new position or side of the ball in spring practice the board is going to be a mess all spring.
 

grunkiejr said:
Can we as a group try not to overreact to where one player plays on one day of practice? This is a coaching staff that is just getting to know their players and learn what they are good at. Of course they are going to move people around and experiment so that they can figure out what works and what doesn't. If Tinsley is playing there in the fall then we might be on to something but if we're going to do this with every player that tries a new position or side of the ball in spring practice the board is going to be a mess all spring.
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True. But it is nice to know how they're going about practice, and trying Tinsley out at DE is the kind of news that helps reveal it.
 

My first thought when I read this was Brendan Beal.
 




CJD, do you want to get us all banned from practice?

Here is what the rules say.

NO CELL PHONES !!!!!!!!No cameras(only media members with approval may have cameras)
No Food or Drink(no sunflower seeds or Tobacco)
No standing on the Field of play or talking to players during the practice.

NO Posting of comments regarding practice information(Specific players, specific plays, injuries, etc.) on any internet site(Facebook, Twitter, chat rooms,etc.)

We are very glad you came and appreciate your interest in Gopher Football, However, just be aware that failure to comply will result in closed practices in the future.

I would strongly suggest that your post above violates Coach Kill's Rule quoted above Re: No Posting of comments regarding practice information on specific players, etc. I was at practice today, it was great to be appreciated and invited to practice, I would like to be able to return tomorrow and next week.

Don't screw it up for us by violating Coach Kill's rules on the very first day of open practice..
 


WAGopher said:
True. But it is nice to know how they're going about practice, and trying Tinsley out at DE is the kind of news that helps reveal it.
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If that information would have actually been true, which I'm told it wasn't.
 

Crazy Joe Davola said:
I don't get my info from practices.
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Hey Crazy, was wondering which one of these coaches was in charge of the decision to move Tinsley to DE?

Fedora, Riley, Calhoun, Schiano and Hoke

That list of five was the one you provided and GUARANTEED our new head coach would come from.

So, just exactly where do you get your info?
 

tjgopher said:
Hey Crazy, was wondering which one of these coaches was in charge of the decision to move Tinsley to DE?

Fedora, Riley, Calhoun, Schiano and Hoke

That list of five was the one you provided and GUARANTEED our new head coach would come from.

So, just exactly where do you get your info?
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Ouija board.
 


tjgopher said:
Hey Crazy, was wondering which one of these coaches was in charge of the decision to move Tinsley to DE?
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Tinsley hasn't been practicing much, if any, at DE.

He -- and also Beal, to a lesser degree -- have mostly been at backup LB lately.


Hey, Whooda thunk it?

Florida LB guys on the pine (which is not certain yet).

Local LB Minnesotans in the starting line-up...Ryan Grant in the middle and Mike Rallis on the outside.
 

If that's the case it will be a long seson.Beal and Tinsley,one would think would be a pair of the few playmakers we have on defense.
 

dinkything said:
Tinsley hasn't been practicing much, if any, at DE.

He -- and also Beal, to a lesser degree -- have mostly been at backup LB lately.


Hey, Whooda thunk it?

Florida LB guys on the pine (which is not certain yet).

Local LB Minnesotans in the starting line-up...Ryan Grant in the middle and Mike Rallis on the outside.
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Tinsley had a hamstring injury that prevented him from taking part in practice until recently. My gut is Tinsley will be substituted in often for both Rallis and Beal. I would expect Grant to play a lot in the middle.
 

gophmeister said:
Tinsley had a hamstring injury that prevented him from taking part in practice until recently. My gut is Tinsley will be substituted in often for both Rallis and Beal. I would expect Grant to play a lot in the middle.
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Actually, Tinsley has been getting quite a bit of work running with the 2nd and 3rd LB units.
 

Dinkything

You have a private message---should you care to reply.
 

I hope Ryan Grant does great, and I do think he is a smart player. But he has a big range disadvantage to overcome against those guys in the long run. Tinsley will be on the field somewhere, and when Beal starts to react and not think so much, he will as well.
 

Tinsley will play, he is the best defensive player they have. Without him it is going to be a long season.
 

jovs said:
Tinsley will play, he is the best defensive player they have. Without him it is going to be a long season.
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Just a note of caution: While Tinsley may be Minnesota's most talented defender, he is NOT the 'best' defender...at least not at this point...and not given what Jerry Kill requires of his 'guys.'

When listening to Jerry Kill's interviews, you will notice he never says he plans to play his most talented players (although I am quite sure he would like to;)). OTOH, Kill always says he will play his 'best' players, whether true freshmen, or seniors...and whether walk-ons, or scholarship players.

When the whistle blows this fall, you might be surprised (shocked?) at who is playing (and at what positions) and who is standing next to Jerry Kill on the sideline.
 

dinkything said:
Actually, Tinsley has been getting quite a bit of work running with the 2nd and 3rd LB units.
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Understood, but my point was he missed more than a week of practice with a hamstring injury. I watched him with my own two eyes working out on the sidelines. He's working his way back.
 

dinkything said:
When the whistle blows this fall, you might be surprised (shocked?) at who is playing (and at what positions) and who is standing next to Jerry Kill on the sideline.
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I hope we are surprised, since that more than likely means they're evaluating the players rather than playing favorites. I doesn't matter one lick to me if any particular player plays or not. It's nice to think the top recruits are the ones who end up playing since we've built expectations around them (e.g. MarQueis Gray) , but we all know that's not always going to be the case.
 

dinkything said:
Tinsley hasn't been practicing much, if any, at DE.

He -- and also Beal, to a lesser degree -- have mostly been at backup LB lately.


Hey, Whooda thunk it?

Florida LB guys on the pine (which is not certain yet).

Local LB Minnesotans in the starting line-up...Ryan Grant in the middle and Mike Rallis on the outside.
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If you're 6'2" 210 lbs 4.5 LB in Florida, you're a 4-5 star player depending on how many SEC schools offer you.

If you're 6'2" 210 lbs 4.5 LB in Minnesota, you're at best a 3 star player.

:mad:
 

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