Funny one by Mason

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"They fired Murray Warmath, they fired me, they fired Tim Brewster," said Mason, who went 64-57 in a decade in Minneapolis. "They're not losing a lot of coaches to retirement."

How true...I don't think any big time coach will work for Maturi...he is a dip*&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!# and under his leadership...it is a coach killer...
 


Yes big time coaches prefer complacent programs.
 

Obviously he's not aware of Roy Griak (sp?) the Gophers Track coach.
 

A better one by Mason

"Everybody in the world thinks they know who should [be the] coach," said Glen Mason, who once actually was the Gophers coach, "and then everybody in the world thinks they know more than the coach."

Looks like Gopher Hole gets a shout out.
 


"They fired Murray Warmath, they fired me, they fired Tim Brewster," said Mason, who went 64-57 in a decade in Minneapolis. "They're not losing a lot of coaches to retirement."

How true...I don't think any big time coach will work for Maturi...he is a dip*&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!# and under his leadership...it is a coach killer...

I don't think a "big time coach" is going to be to worried with someone who won't be here long term.
 


You're right. Mason putting himself in the same sentence as Warmath is pretty funny.

He should have used Gutekunst.
 

I don't recall the line, and I'm not going to look it up (o.k. I decided to):
"I never had a doubt in my mind that those things are achievable," said Mason, now an analyst for the Big Ten Network. "This place isn't different than any other -- you find a guy who is well organized, a good manager, someone with a philosophy that he believes in and who isn't going to be rattled by bumps in the road. You can definitely win at Minnesota."

Funny he didn't mention anything like working your tail off as a recruiter.
 



"They fired Murray Warmath, they fired me, they fired Tim Brewster," said Mason, who went 64-57 in a decade in Minneapolis. "They're not losing a lot of coaches to retirement."

How true...I don't think any big time coach will work for Maturi...he is a dip*&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!# and under his leadership...it is a coach killer...

This has been a "coach killer" job long before Maturi arrived. Warmath was fired, Stoll was fired, Salem was fired, Gutey was fired and Wacker was fired long before Maturi was here.
 

This has been a "coach killer" job long before Maturi arrived. Warmath was fired, Stoll was fired, Salem was fired, Gutey was fired and Wacker was fired long before Maturi was here.

This is the one thing that has percolated through from the time of genuinely expecting National Championships.
 

I don't think a "big time coach" is going to be to worried with someone who won't be here long term.

Maturi has a two year extension sitting on the table...so it may be a while...and I am sure that all the big time d1 coaches love their weekly staff meetings with the AD and all the non-revenue coaches.

Yes, Maturi is a continuation of the lousy decision making and management by ADs for 40 years...it didn't start with Maturi...but he does continue the ineptitude.
 

Mason could have gotten another HC job if he really wanted one badly enough. Granted, not at the BCS level, although he could have worked his way back in. If it wasn't for the cushy BTN job, he might have done that.
 



Mason could have gotten another HC job if he really wanted one badly enough. Granted, not at the BCS level, although he could have worked his way back in. If it wasn't for the cushy BTN job, he might have done that.

I'm not a big Mason fan, but come on, he didn't do that badly here and if he wanted to coach he wouldn't have to "work his way" back in. My information has it that both Notre Dame and the Detroit Lions offered him outstanding contracts.
 

I'm not a big Mason fan, but come on, he didn't do that badly here and if he wanted to coach he wouldn't have to "work his way" back in. My information has it that both Notre Dame and the Detroit Lions offered him outstanding contracts.

Notre Dame and the Detroit Lions offered him outstanding contracts to be their Head Coach? :confused:

Mason sounds bitter, but its not surprising. He teased us with what could be with a better coach in place, and it got him fired. He did good things here, but I doubt we cant get a better coach than him to get us over the hump instead of consistent 5 & 6 loss seasons.
 

Remember also....okay, most on this board cannot remember this.

Bierman was driven out by the U. BIERMAN! What does THAT tell you.

Let's go back a little further...Clarence Spears was run out also. Not
technically fired, but the relationship between Spears and the U was
testy at best at times. They made it too difficult for him to operate
there any longer.

Oh yeah....Dr. Henry L. Williams. Towards the end of his tenure, the
wolves were howling for his departure, big-time.

I love being a Native Minnesotan for a lot of reasons, but the way they have
traditionally treated their coaches is not one of them.

People can have their opinions, and I have mine. But they are just that. I cannot
understand the hatred people have for Glen Mason. When I read their words, hatred
is the only thing that comes to mind. Personally, I have no time for hatred. I don't
know where they get theirs.
 

I don't care what you think of Mason, he couldn't or wouldn't recruit locally. Most of the high school coaches didn't like him. He was always arrogant, and still is. He couldn't recruit defense from anywhere. He padded the schedule with creampuffs early and lost games that were already won. The Gophers were going nowhere with him and everyone knew it. Better to try something new even if unknown than to waste time with mediocre. There is more potential for upside TODAY than there ever was with Mason.
 

I agree, but as I've posted before, you cannot compare the situations that the Dome
coaches have with the opportunities that exist today. It would have been fun to see what
Gutey could have done with the support the U is prepared to give now, and with a revenue
stream and budget that's at least middle of the pack in the league. It likely would have
been worth a couple more wins each season- same with Wacker & Mason.

When you have a budget that's among the lowest in the Big 10, you do what you can.
You have to make choices. A smart coach who is a good "program manager" knows he
cannot be as strong as he wants to be everywhere. He has to choose where to
prioritize his efforts and to choose his strengths. In Mason's case, he chose his
offensive running game.

People do forget that in Mason's early years at the U, he was all about defense first.
In the 1st two seasons, he would load up 8 defenders in the box to prioritize stopping the
run- knowing he'd be taking his chances in the secondary. The defense ended up being
respectable, and one of the better run defenses in the big ten.

Lamanzar Williams was on his way towards a nice but highly un-noteworthy career under
Wacker. In Mason's first year at the helm, he became an All-American. They then
produced solid defensive linemen like Schlect and Riley, and a few others. It was the
offense the was sort of plain.

At this point, it is important to note that Gordie Shaw was coaching the D-line.

Then a change happened. Gordie Shaw was moved to the O-Line. Hamilton, Eslinger,
Satterstrom, etc all came. We know the story.

When you have a limited budget, you can do one of two things:

1) Go for 4 and 5 star players out of HS, woo them with the Dome and outdated
facilities, and simply collect the recruiting accolades. However, once you lose those
athletes to programs that are much better funded, you've shot your recruiting budget.
Then, you have to go get those 2 and 3 star players, only to find they've committed elsewhere.

or

2) Work within your budget and do the best you can. Mason chose to find good 2 and 3
star players, and help the coaches coach them up. I don't think anybody knowledgeable
about CFB would doubt that he and his staff had the ability to coach players up, esp.
those that were unheralded out of HS- Eslilnger, Barber, Schlect, Spaeth, Decker, etc.
All the while, he did nab the occasional blue chip- Tapeh & Maroney come to mind, but
many were the other kind.

It astonishes me that people claim he didn't care about recruiting or defense. He did
the best he could within his budget at recruiting, and emphasized a running game to
help protect his defenses as best he could.

I guess this makes me a "Masonite", but I will defend any of the other Dome Gopher coaches
in the same way I defend Mason. Many on this board simply do not realize just how much
of a liability the Dome was, and how it affected so much else. Its much easier to lash out
and say "they failed". Its called the easy way out.
 

This has been a "coach killer" job long before Maturi arrived. Warmath was fired, Stoll was fired, Salem was fired, Gutey was fired and Wacker was fired long before Maturi was here.

True but I would say that the head job at virtually every program in the country is a "coach killer" job. When you haven't gotten the job done or cease to get the job done you get shown the door. Not many coaches get to stay in the same job until retirement regardless of performance.
 

metrolax, I agree on the Metrodome part, but I'm still trying to figure out how the "etc." behind Eslinger, Setterstrom, and Hamilton are. Shaw did a very good job honing guys into the zone-blocking (some would say "cut-blocking") system that the Gophers ran under Mason and, to his credit (because he was coaching college after all), it's fairly obvious these guys weren't top-drawer in the "star-rating" department.

All this said, Mason played out his hand here. If he would have recruited Minnesota harder and had any kind of personality, he could have coached here until he was 90.
 

I agree '50

The etc was that he had several other "good" non-All-Americans.

I understand the personality thing and how his smiling after the TT loss might have
rubbed people in the wrong way. Not a therapist here, but it was likely a defense
mechanism. Usually harmless, but this time it may have cost him his job.

He was about as successful as a coach could have been in the Dome era. And, I
think he was tiring somewhat from it. Like you said, a couple more little things and
he's still be there now.
 

A better one by Mason

"Everybody in the world thinks they know who should [be the] coach," said Glen Mason, who once actually was the Gophers coach, "and then everybody in the world thinks they know more than the coach."

Looks like Gopher Hole gets a shout out.

So true. So true...
 




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