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I’d rather not vote for them. Until a viable libertarian party emerges (we are building momentum), it’s bad Rs or socialists.
Rs aren't socialists though. Unless you are a corporation. Or a defense contractor. Or, well, actually, by your definition, they are even farther left than Ds. It's just that their welfare is for a different target. But they spend even more and don't pay for a fucking thing.
 

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They didn’t say “Antifa did it”. Ingraham said there was an Antifa member there, which is true. She speculated that there may have been more. It’s an opinion show. Yeahbut Russia.
They knew what was happening as the Committee has shown. And they shamelessly pushed the "Antifa!" narrative anyway. Yes it was gaslighting. Sad that you feel so compelled to defend their lies.
 


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No, he’s worse in a lot of ways. Bizarrely, he’s also more honest than most politicians. He’s not terrified to speak off the cuff and say what he thinks and not rely on bland prescripted talking points that say nothing and hide real intentions. There’s value in that. But he tells bald faces lies more than most too.
He's more willing to speak off the cuff, yes. Refreshing! His Presidency was more "entertaining" I suppose.

He's also dumber. And more ignorant. And a far bigger liar. And more willing to grift and corrupt for his family and inner circle. "More honest"? Hardly.
 

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These are all basic common covid stats we’ve all heard ad nauseum. If it was all lies, they should stand out to you and you could list which ones were lies. I could do the same for any CNN segment on a bunch of topics.
great, so dissect it, then!
 


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They knew what was happening as the Committee has shown. And they shamelessly pushed the "Antifa!" narrative anyway. Yes it was gaslighting. Sad that you feel so compelled to defend their lies.
The “Antifa narrative” was good for about a week and it petered out when they didn’t find anyone other than the one dude. Few took it seriously without more proof.

I‘m curious how you would know so much about what was on Fox News when I am clearly the admitted expert about FNC here. You’re full of shit!
 

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Big mo! Go JoJo Go!
Getting rid of the woke libertarians and left libertarians.
“you are a fraud, you vote R”
I’m excited about what’s happening with the LP
“LMAO!!!! You can’t do that!!!”
 


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The “Antifa narrative” was good for about a week and it petered out when they didn’t find anyone other than the one dude. Few took it seriously without more proof.

I‘m curious how you would know so much about what was on Fox News when I am clearly the admitted expert about FNC here. You’re full of shit!
A week? Beeg is still pushing the lie to this day. They knew it was a lie as they were saying it and millions of mentally unwell folks like Beeg were lapping it up. The damage was done.
 



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These are all basic common covid stats we’ve all heard ad nauseum. If it was all lies, they should stand out to you and you could list which ones were lies. I could do the same for any CNN segment on a bunch of topics.
Pick any CNN segment and have at it. I very much welcome such.
 

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Rs aren't socialists though. Unless you are a corporation. Or a defense contractor. Or, well, actually, by your definition, they are even farther left than Ds. It's just that their welfare is for a different target. But they spend even more and don't pay for a fucking thing.

But but but but but....it's actually good that taxpayer dollars are being funneled to corporations who don't pay taxes and defense contractors. It's not socialism if we like it. - Righties
 

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He's more willing to speak off the cuff, yes. Refreshing! His Presidency was more "entertaining" I suppose.

He's also dumber. And more ignorant. And a far bigger liar. And more willing to grift and corrupt for his family and inner circle. "More honest"? Hardly.
Not just entertaining or refreshing. Politicians have mastered the art of saying nothing and doing whatever they want in secret. That’s a very bad trend, and the media provides them cover.
Trump didn’t do that, everything he did was scrutinized by the media to an extreme degree. That’s good. Too bad they’re on vacation before and since. Enemies of the people.
 

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ROFL! The budget and deficits were a nonissue for four years. Now it's a big problem. Trump lied constantly....nearly every time he spoke for more than a brief moment. You excused it and yahbutted it. Now politicians lying is a huge problem. Wasn't for Trump though. Because he was on your team. Principles shouldn't shift that drastically. They do for you. Because you are a hyper partisan hack. Think people don't notice? lol. That's a $400 laugh.
liz Cheney has real principles. that annoys S2
 



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Getting rid of the woke libertarians and left libertarians.
“you are a fraud, you vote R”
I’m excited about what’s happening with the LP
“LMAO!!!! You can’t do that!!!”
When they break 5% or even 2%, let me know and I'll look into it.
 


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A week? Beeg is still pushing the lie to this day. They knew it was a lie as they were saying it and millions of mentally unwell folks like Beeg were lapping it up. The damage was done.
Bga doesn’t even like FNC. He has ripped it for having a corporate agenda or whatever.

I do. I like FNC. I know more about what is on FNC than anyone here. But I have a number of other conservative sources that I read or sometimes listen to.
 

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Not just entertaining or refreshing. Politicians have mastered the art of saying nothing and doing whatever they want in secret. That’s a very bad trend, and the media provides them cover.
Trump didn’t do that, everything he did was scrutinized by the media to an extreme degree. That’s good. Too bad they’re on vacation before and since. Enemies of the people.
Mexico will pay for the wall.

I will bring back the manufacturing.

I will show my tax returns when the audit is over.
 

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liz Cheney has real principles. that annoys S2

Deuce is annoyed that she spoke out against the stolen election. Has nothing to do with principles. Don't speak out against the king of the right wing.
 

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Bga doesn’t even like FNC. He has ripped it for having a corporate agenda or whatever.
It wasn't only Fox News, but the entire RW media that pushed the lie. Maybe Beeg got it from the The Epoch Times, but millions of others like him got it from Fox.

I know more about what is on FNC than anyone here.
You certainly consume more than anyone here. No one disputes that. But pretending that makes you a neutral arbiter of their conduct or intentions is dumb.
 

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Bga doesn’t even like FNC. He has ripped it for having a corporate agenda or whatever.

I do. I like FNC. I know more about what is on FNC than anyone here. But I have a number of other conservative sources that I read or sometimes listen to.

Beej is even further right. He goes straight to OAN and Newsmax....because Fonks News is only Q for 30% of the time.
 

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Shaky veneer?

I would think that Ingraham and Hannity showing up at the podium at a Trump rally would be a hint that they like Trump and are friends of Trump.
 

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But I have a number of other conservative sources that I read or sometimes listen to.
What? My understanding from the massive whining on this forum by folks like @MassiveShillGA1, @golf, et al is there are no conservative media sources? What channels are they on and how in the world did you figure out how to change the channel?

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It wasn't only Fox News, but the entire RW media that pushed the lie. Maybe Beeg got it from the The Epoch Times, but millions of others like him got it from Fox.
The Rupar tweet was in direct reference to gaslighting by Fox News idiot. Address FNC gaslighting with some proof or STFU.
You certainly consume more than anyone here. No one disputes that. But pretending that makes a neutral arbiter of their conduct or intentions is dumb.
I didn’t say I was neutral. But I have a brain and criticize show hosts all the time. Ainsley for example. I think you could take the hint that I think she’s a moron.

Tucker interviewed Ted Cruz tonight and ripped him to shreds. Cruz was backpedaling like crazy for comments that Carlson took issue with. I thought Carlson was grandstanding as he does against Republicans b/c he likes to be known as the guy that holds Rs accountable. That’s part of his shtick. But you accused him of propping up the Republican Party. You have no clue.
 

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The Rupar tweet was in direct reference to gaslighting by Fox News idiot. Address FNC gaslighting with some proof or STFU.
I already did. You choose to ignore it.

I didn’t say I was neutral. But I have a brain and criticize show hosts all the time. Ainsley for example. I think you could take the hint that I think she’s a moron.

Tucker interviewed Ted Cruz tonight and ripped him to shreds. Cruz was backpedaling like crazy for comments that Carlson took issue with. I thought Carlson was grandstanding as he does against Republicans b/c he likes to be known as the guy that holds Rs accountable. That’s part of his shtick. But you accused him of propping up the Republican Party. You have no clue.
Letting a Dem on for 10 minutes so they can mock them later or going after Ted Cruz for accidentally not bending knee to Dear Leader sufficiently hardly makes up for the other 23 hours/day. But you can keep pretending it does.
 

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What? My understanding from the massive whining on this forum by folks like @MassiveShillGA1, @golf, et al is there are no conservative media sources? What channels are they on and how in the world did you figure out how to change the channel?

/s
I‘m referring to political internet websites, like DailyWire, Townhall, and some that are less biased like DailyCaller or rarely listening to podcasts. I don’t watch NewsMax or OANN.
 

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I already did. You choose to ignore it.
The Antifa thing? You just broadened it to other news sources that bga uses. It wasn’t gaslighting. It was an opinion host speculating. Gaslighting is reporting something as fact…like Trump-Russia collusion.
Letting a Dem on for 10 minutes so they can mock them later or going after Ted Cruz for accidentally not bending knee to Dear Leader sufficiently hardly makes up for the other 23 hours/day. But you can keep pretending it does.
Mock them later? Neal Cavuto did not mock Kinzinger. He did an interview and didn’t really even challenge him.

Bret Baier interviewed Cheney for over 15 minutes. She even lied, but Baier didn’t mock her. She’s a Trump hating hack. It’s why the left loves her now.

But prove me wrong idiot. Show anyone on FNC mocking these two interviews.

You won’t b/c you can’t b/c it didn’t and doesn’t happen.
 

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If gaslighting happens so frequently on Fox News why isn’t Aaron Rupar providing proof when he makes the accusations? Oh yeah, he got Ainsley saying only 200K died under Trump. Nailed Fox! 🤣😂🤣😂

So much gaslighting…CNN and MSNBC covering Trump-Russia collusion for 3+ years…no problem.
 

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They didn’t say “Antifa did it”. Ingraham said there was an Antifa member there, which is true. She speculated that there may have been more. It’s an opinion show.

We sure hear alot of those opinions regurgitated here as fact.
 


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I‘m referring to political internet websites, like DailyWire, Townhall, and some that are less biased like DailyCaller or rarely listening to podcasts. I don’t watch NewsMax or OANN.
You mean to tell me there ARE right wing media outlets?? Why are they so well hidden??? Are they on the "dark web?" Dish Network? Where are they???????
 




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