Former Gophers Kyle Theret, Duane Bennett reportedly suing NCAA

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along with Vikings Sharrif Floyd and a few others. Per the Pioneer Press:

Vikings defensive tackle Sharrif Floyd is the lead plaintiff in a class action lawsuit filed Friday that accuses the NCAA and 11 conferences of fixing prices by capping the value of athletic scholarships.

The suit calls the NCAA and its schools an "illegal cartel" and seeks unspecified monetary damages as well barring defendants from engaging in "anticompetitive'' rules. It names all the major NCAA conferences, including the SEC, in which Floyd played.

http://www.twincities.com/ci_25643556

Go Gophers!!
 

another day, another former gopher is suing the ncaa! so who am i missing, moses alipate, victor keise, kendall gregory-mcgee, kyle theret and duane bennett are all suing the ncaa.

#smh
 

And about a few hundred other players from around the country....

this is just absurd. How dare those in the NCAA hold a gun to these young men's heads
and tell them to play college football....these poor kids.
 

Seems like it would be a lot easier to just have every college athlete that ever played football or basketball on scholarship just go ahead and sue. After all, every single one of them since the beginning of time has been a victim right?
 

The NCAA has been found to act as a cartel and a restraint of trade before. Just having a rule in place defining the limits of a scholarship seems to be a restraint to the trade of scholarships on its face value. So, the NCAA already has an uphill battle. I would think a wise student or former student would join the suit to gain representation for not receiving the 'full' value of their scholarship.
 


The Universities should counter-sue these guys for wasting $100,000's on them.....
 

Instead of ambulance chaser attorneys we now have NCAA chasers attorneys.
 


Can we please just have an "All things whiny ex-athlete" thread?
 




Kyle Theret could not have lucked-out more in college football.

I'm sorry. I liked the kid and he played hard.

But Brewster brought him from Colorado and he played darn near every down for four years because we needed warm bodies back there.
 

Kyle Theret could not have lucked-out more in college football.

I'm sorry. I liked the kid and he played hard.

But Brewster brought him from Colorado and he played darn near every down for four years because we needed warm bodies back there.

I have to say it. I just can't help myself. We needed the warm bodies because Mason left Brewster very little to work with on defense due to his pathetic recruiting after the 2003 season.
 

Once the concussion lawsuits start rolling in the NCAA won't know what hit it. College football is going to change forever in ways nobody can predict. The only thing we are going to be able to count on is that most college football fans are going to hate the changes.

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NCAA concussion lawsuits consolidated

A panel of judges has consolidated nearly a dozen concussion-related lawsuits to a federal court in the Northern District of Illinois where the first of the lawsuits has been pending for two years.

The Judicial Panel on Multidistrict Litigation (MDL) heard arguments in Las Vegas on Dec. 5 as to whether a 2011 lawsuit filed by former Eastern Illinois football player Adrian Arrington should be consolidated with another filed in U.S. District Court in the Eastern District of Tennessee in September.

Also considered were eight additional cases filed since then. As was the case with NFL suits alleging the league failed to educate players on the long-term effects of concussions, the MDL panel concluded the plaintiffs in the class-action lawsuits were similar enough to warrant consolidating the cases.

"Most of the actions now pending, however, involve nearly completely overlapping putative classes and claims," the judges wrote in their decision. "Regardless of the scope of the putative classes alleged, all actions share common factual questions concerning the NCAA's knowledge of the risks of concussions in football players and its policies governing the protection of players from such injuries."

Before the cases were heard before the MDL panel last month, several legal experts told USA TODAY Sports that the NCAA concussion cases could be expected to follow a similar path as those filed against the NFL.

After those cases were consolidated, a $765 million settlement was announced in August but remains unsigned. It remains to be seen how many plaintiffs in that case will oppose the settlement or opt out of it.

Since the Arrington plaintiffs filed their motion in July, a host of copycat cases were filed around the country. All of the named plaintiffs in those nine other cases are former NCAA football players.

"These actions share factual questions relating to allegations against the NCAA stemming from injuries sustained while playing sports at NCAA-member institutions, including damages resulting from the permanent long-term effects of concussions," wrote the judicial panel. "Centralization will eliminate duplicative discovery; prevent inconsistent pretrial rulings, including with respect to class certification; and conserve the resources of the parties, their counsel, and the judiciary."

A panel of judges has consolidated nearly a dozen concussion-related lawsuits to a federal court in the Northern District of Illinois where the first of the lawsuits has been pending for two years.

Also considered were eight additional cases filed since then. As was the case with NFL suits alleging the league failed to educate players on the long-term effects of concussions, the MDL panel concluded the plaintiffs in the class-action lawsuits were similar enough to warrant consolidating the cases.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/...convention_n_5217913.html?utm_hp_ref=politics
 



Ridiculous. If these suits succeed there are going to be a lot of former athletes suddenly having post-concussive disorder. At most they might reach a settlement with players from a certain era when concussion-related research was starting to show up until the last 3-4 years when it has become common knowledge. Going forward no player can claim to be ignorant of the risks of playing football. The game will stay unchanged. Look at the hundreds of thousands of men who signed up for the military during the War on Terra? Young men will put their bodies in harms way for next to nothing; the lure of millions in the NFL will overcome any fear or a remote chance of debilitating post-concussive disorder.

What's next? Servicemen suing the governement for sustaining combat injuries? Detectives and police suing cities for PTSD?

Just because a lawsuit is filed doesn't mean it's legitimate.

College football will carry on. Life has risks...does this really need to be explained?
 

Furthermore, why do we have so many that hate college football on this board? Serious question. From turning amateurs into the NFL to pushing for flag football, it's gotten ridiculous guys.
 

Ridiculous. If these suits succeed there are going to be a lot of former athletes suddenly having post-concussive disorder. At most they might reach a settlement with players from a certain era when concussion-related research was starting to show up until the last 3-4 years when it has become common knowledge. Going forward no player can claim to be ignorant of the risks of playing football. The game will stay unchanged. Look at the hundreds of thousands of men who signed up for the military during the War on Terra? Young men will put their bodies in harms way for next to nothing; the lure of millions in the NFL will overcome any fear or a remote chance of debilitating post-concussive disorder.

What's next? Servicemen suing the governement for sustaining combat injuries? Detectives and police suing cities for PTSD?

Just because a lawsuit is filed doesn't mean it's legitimate.

College football will carry on. Life has risks...does this really need to be explained?

So the NFL is going to pay to settle $765 million dollars worth of legitimate concussion lawsuits (with many more to come) and the NCAA isn't going to have to pay anything? Your head is either buried in the sand or stuffed up your ass. I can't figure out which one.
 

Furthermore, why do we have so many that hate college football on this board? Serious question. From turning amateurs into the NFL to pushing for flag football, it's gotten ridiculous guys.

Yeah, the players should all wear bras! And instead of helmets, they should wear little tinfoil hats, 'cause, you know, it's the future and we shouldn't be so barbaric!

Oh, you know, try to get it into the end zone, but be really polite about it.
 

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Furthermore, why do we have so many that hate college football on this board? Serious question. From turning amateurs into the NFL to pushing for flag football, it's gotten ridiculous guys.

Many of the posters in GopherHole are college graduates who read and understand what is going on in the world. You should try it sometime. You might find out that you like knowing things.
 

Many of the posters in GopherHole are college graduates who read and understand what is going on in the world. You should try it sometime. You might find out that you like knowing things.

Wow. What "college" trained you to formulate that impressive argument? When facts and figures fail default to personal attacks.

Every post makes me think you haven't spent a minute in the "real world".

The 765 MM is "walkaround money" for the NFL. It is go-away money. From what I understand if the suit concludes as originally structured it is binding for all former players, not just the 4500 involved in the suit. IMO many of the older players will be lucky to be getting anything. Current players are all about "getting paid" and are well aware of the possibility of permanent injury. They can choose to not play. Sigh.

The NCAA may end up with a similar go-away settlement. It doesn't mean it's legitimate. It just means they want the distraction to go away. If the NCAA actively conspired to hide high-quality post-concussive disorder then they will need to face consequences. If they were ignorant of obscure science data, or the data was not definitive are they still responsible?

People like UpnorthGo4, Duane Bennett, Kyle Theret believe every bad thing that happens is someone else's fault. I throughly disagree with that philosophy. At the end of the day it's a money grab for a lot of these guys, with hungry attorneys holding the marionette strings.
 

EVERYTHING YOU WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THE COMING CHANGES IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL BUT ARE AFRAID TO ASK


Full-cost Scholarships

Athletic scholarships don’t cover the full cost of attending a university. NCAA president Mark Emmert tried to address this by proposing $2,000 stipends for athletes. However, the proposal was shot down by smaller schools, which claim they don’t have the money to do it. Autonomy for the Big 5 should be the solution.

Former Minnesota football player Kendall Gregory-McGhee recently filed a lawsuit against the NCAA and the five major conferences for capping the amount of assistance provided in a scholarship.


Four-year Scholarships

The NCAA does not require its membership to give incoming freshmen four-year scholarships.

Many schools do, but the ones that renew scholarships from year-to-year can give athletes the boot before they finish their eligibility and their degrees. The union movement describes this as a major concern; athletes’ scholarships are at the mercy of the schools.

It appears that larger schools will be able to vote on whether their members will be required to offer four-year scholarships, along with other things like changes in "eligibility for aid, period of award, reduction or cancellation, renewals or non-renewals."


Educational Trust

Last summer, Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany pitched the idea for an educational trust, which would essentially allow athletes to finish their degrees on scholarship even after their athletic eligibility expires. The trust was one of the goals of the Northwestern athletes when they petitioned to unionize, and it was supported by NCAA president Mark Emmert at the 2014 Final Four.


Practice Hours

The NCAA only allows athletes to spend 20 "countable hours" on their sports each week. However, during the unionization hearing, CAPA’s attorneys noted that athletes actually spend up to 50 hours a week on their sports. The NLRB’s regional director in Chicago agreed that the NCAA’s countable hours are, essentially, bogus.

In order to allow athletes to focus more on school, the conferences could create more stringent time demands that create "a more appropriate balance" between academics and athletics. They could also enact "athletic dead periods," which would be another way of refuting the fact that being a Division I athlete is essentially a full-time job.


Long-term Medical Coverage

While full long-term health insurance doesn’t appear to be on the table, the unionization effort highlighted the need for schools to provide long-term medical care for sport-related injuries. This could be an expensive proposition, since Title IX regulations would likely require it for all sports.

Unionization will likely be the best route for players to seek improved medical coverage.

Medical coverage is largely deregulated by the NCAA, because the organization does not want to be liable for concussions and other lingering injuries that athletes sustain in college. Schools have the ability to decide how they want to cover long-term health issues.

However, some smaller changes were made by the NCAA this April. Schools are required to provide more and better-trained medical and training personnel during all physical activity, and there must now be at least three hours of rest between practices.


Benefits and Agents

It's clear that the NCAA is still against athletes marketing themselves, which could end up being its downfall from an antitrust standpoint. Still, the organization is prepared to enact some common sense rules that allow players to receive additional benefits.

The benefits permissive to everyone could include allowing schools to pay for travel for families to postseason games and expenses for practice, like parking passes. The new rules would allow for families to get loans for "loss-of-value insurance," which is a policy star athletes can take out to protect against career-ending injuries sustained in college that would affect their future earnings.

They could also allow schools to pull some restrictions on rules governing agents (which SEC commissioner Mike Slive has lobbied for) and allow athletes to make money in non-athletic endeavors.

Actionable benefits could include allowing schools to pay for pre-enrollment expenses, like athletes' medical procedures the summer before they enroll and transportation to campus.


Extended Due Process

Right now, players can appeal to the NCAA if they’re punished for violations. The College Athletes Players Associtaion (CAPA) is asking for a better appeals system and for the punishments to be consistent throughout the organization. The latter has been an issue in recent years, as sanctions for schools and players have varied wildly (see Penn State, Miami, and USC).

The NCAA has already started redefining the differences between institutional and individual failure when it comes to academic fraud. It will also give athletes a small voice in the legislative process, though that might not be enough to dissuade athletes from unionizing to ensure a legal voice in the process.


Transfer Rules

As it stands, players must sit out one year when transferring if they don’t receive a waiver from the NCAA. The lone exception is the graduate transfer rule, which allows players to be eligible immediately if they have already graduated and are pursuing degrees that their schools don't offer.

However, the NCAA is seeking to make its waiver process more streamlined. Instead of allowing players to receive a waiver to play immediately when they transfer, they can get a year of eligibility tacked onto the end of their scholarship because of that hardship.

Even by enacting that change, the transfer rules could give the NCAA trouble in court. The schools and the NCAA have been criticized for the current rules, because coaches can restrict which schools players transfer to. Essentially, it's like a non-compete clause in a contract, which hurts the universities' argument that its athletes aren't employees.

The new model of autonomy allows for the power conferences to change the transfer rules when players transfer among the Big 5. They would not affect smaller conferences without their approval.


Ed O’Bannon Lawsuit

Former UCLA basketball player Ed O’Bannon originally brought a case against the NCAA, EA, and the Collegiate Licensing Company for their use of players’ likeness. However, EA settled and also announced that it will no longer be making college football video games, meaning the focus is now on TV money.

The O’Bannon plaintiffs were seeking damages and injunctive relief for the use of players’ likeness. Judge Claudia Wilken denied class status to the damages part of the suit, but did allow class-action status to the injunction part of the suit. This means that the players could still have a claim to some of the TV revenue the NCAA and its conferences bring in each year.

The players are asking for group licensing, meaning they would be the ones licensing their own likeness. In other words, they would collectively negotiate — possibly in a union — for a piece of the TV revenue that would then be distributed equally among them. The money could theoretically be distributed immediately or put in a trust fund for once players graduate.


Concussion Lawsuits

The NCAA claims that while schools have a legal duty to protect their athletes, the oversight organization itself does not. This theory has been important recently, as the NCAA has faced a number of lawsuits that it has not properly protected athletes against concussions.

Ten concussion lawsuits were recently consolidated into one in a case that will be heard in Illinois. The ruling will determine whether the NCAA’s claim that it is not a responsible party is credible.

However, expect to see some more basic concussion protection from the schools, and possibly from NCAA mandates, since it seems likely that the NCAA is at least partially liable. Some teams have started wearing new helmets to combat the concussion problem, and one of CAPA’s goals is for schools to put concussion experts on the sidelines.


Kessler Lawsuit

The Kessler lawsuit is unique in that it isn’t about getting damages for all college players. Rather, it’s an anti-trust lawsuit that argues the NCAA and the major conferences have engaged in price-fixing by not allowing athletes to receive anything more than a scholarship in order to play. The suit is seeking and injunction, and only the four players named in the suit are seeking damages.

The NCAA will likely respond to this lawsuit by saying athletes don’t have to play college sports if they don’t want to. But the Kessler suit alleges that there are no reasonable alternatives to a player hoping to play professionally. Basically, the NCAA and the power conferences control too much of the market for there to be viable alternatives for players, and they are intentionally keeping compensation low so they can get rich. In the past, the NCAA has said that responsibility falls on the NBA and NFL in particular for not creating better minor league systems.


The NCAA's Five Biggest Threats

Kessler just as dangerous as O'Bannon

According to Solomon, a judicial panel is considering whether to combine the suit with one filed by former West Virginia running back Shawne Alston, which is seeking both damages and an injunction. According to Solomon, Alston’s attorneys favor both suites being combined, while the Kessler attorneys do not. This makes sense from Kessler’s side, since the damages portion of the O’Bannon suit was shot down.

The O’Bannon plaintiffs and CAPA’s representatives probably wouldn’t care all that much if the NCAA disappeared, but their lawsuits aren’t flat-out threatening the organization’s pillar of amateurism. The Kessler lawsuit wants to get an injunction that forces the NCAA to allow players to be compensated at market value beyond a traditional scholarship.
Injunction vs. damages

An injunction means a person or organization has to stop doing a certain thing. For example, in the O’Bannon case this would mean the NCAA would have to end its current broadcast model and allow players to bargain to receive a cut of broadcast revenue.

Damages are just what they sound like. In this case, the NCAA would be forced to repay athletes for the use of their likeness in the past. That part of the O’Bannon case was dismissed. In all of these suits, the players seem more likely to get injunctive relief than damages.

Title IX

Title IX has a number of different sections, but when applied to sports, it forces schools to provide an equal number of scholarships and generally equal experiences to men's and women's sports. The scholarship rule is well-known, but schools are also not allowed to provide men's sports with better facilities than women's sports.

The Athlete Advocate

It's a fairly ambiguous law -- there are cases where you can't say, "this move is definitely a Title IX violation" -- and one that has been used to defend the way the NCAA does business. For instance, Title IX could potentially make it difficult to pay football players a salary if all athletes aren't paid.

The NCAA and Northwestern have claimed that they cannot negotiate with football players because of Title IX. While negotiating is not a Title IX violation, there are instances in which the players might ask for things that would violate Title IX if they weren't given to athletes in all sports. The school would need to act accordingly.

Although they are not the same thing, Title IX is often linked to non-revenue sports. As long as it still follows the scholarship guidelines, cutting sports is not a Title IX violation. However, cutting non-revenue sports to spend more on football is generally seen as bad practice.

The NCAA has long said that splitting television revenue with players would cause non-revenue sports to disappear, but the judge in the O'Bannon case said that is not a legitimate excuse, since the NCAA could mandate that schools have stricter revenue-sharing policies to
save these sports.

Sharrif Floyd lawsuit

Former Florida football player and current Minnesota Viking Sharrif Floyd is part of a group of athletes suing the NCAA and the other FBS conferences for capping scholarships below the cost of attendance, which they say is a violation of antitrust law.

The NCAA is already facing a number of antitrust lawsuits, but this one is different because it includes a women's basketball player — former Kennesaw State Owl Ashley Holliday — and is seeking damages and an injunction for football and men's and women's basketball players.

Another difference: Other antitrust suits have just covered the NCAA and the Big 5 conferences — ACC, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12 and SEC — but this one also includes the American, the Atlantic Sun, Conference USA, the MAC, the Mountain West and the Sun Belt.

With the Big 5 conferences already planning to start giving cost-of-attendance scholarships anyways, a suit against them wouldn't have been as groundbreaking. However, the inclusion of the smaller conferences is interesting, since many of them have claimed that their schools cannot afford to give full-cost scholarships. In fact, that was one of the reasons for the switch to the new model.
 

The players need a greater voice in all of this, and you are not going to get the NCAA to give up it's absolute power without some lawyers on your side. Just hope it does not go too far the other direction.
 

It is simple just eliminate all athletic scholarships and if there is positive money generated by the athletic departments then use that to subsidize all students tuitions.

along with Vikings Sharrif Floyd and a few others. Per the Pioneer Press:

Vikings defensive tackle Sharrif Floyd is the lead plaintiff in a class action lawsuit filed Friday that accuses the NCAA and 11 conferences of fixing prices by capping the value of athletic scholarships.

The suit calls the NCAA and its schools an "illegal cartel" and seeks unspecified monetary damages as well barring defendants from engaging in "anticompetitive'' rules. It names all the major NCAA conferences, including the SEC, in which Floyd played.

http://www.twincities.com/ci_25643556

Go Gophers!!
 

I like college football. I'll like it more once the NCAA's grip on power is removed or diminished.

I'm sorry that the ox is being gored for many people here. I suspect that's why they're against reform. But reform is inevitable and it is coming to a campus near you.
 

I like college football. I'll like it more once the NCAA's grip on power is removed or diminished.

I'm sorry that the ox is being gored for many people here. I suspect that's why they're against reform. But reform is inevitable and it is coming to a campus near you.

Why waste money on athletic scholarships let them pay their own way.
 


Ridiculous. If these suits succeed there are going to be a lot of former athletes suddenly having post-concussive disorder. At most they might reach a settlement with players from a certain era when concussion-related research was starting to show up until the last 3-4 years when it has become common knowledge. Going forward no player can claim to be ignorant of the risks of playing football. The game will stay unchanged. Look at the hundreds of thousands of men who signed up for the military during the War on Terra? Young men will put their bodies in harms way for next to nothing; the lure of millions in the NFL will overcome any fear or a remote chance of debilitating post-concussive disorder.

What's next? Servicemen suing the governement for sustaining combat injuries? Detectives and police suing cities for PTSD?

Just because a lawsuit is filed doesn't mean it's legitimate.

College football will carry on. Life has risks...does this really need to be explained?
The first thing a lawyer does is verify the facts and send the player to be evaluated.
 

The NCAA has been found to act as a cartel and a restraint of trade before. Just having a rule in place defining the limits of a scholarship seems to be a restraint to the trade of scholarships on its face value. So, the NCAA already has an uphill battle. I would think a wise student or former student would join the suit to gain representation for not receiving the 'full' value of their scholarship.

Very good points.
 

I'm 100% in favor of eliminating athletic scholarships.

The quality of play would fall to about average 1-AA level.

People would still have a blast.

Would be a lot whiter though.
 

I'm 100% in favor of eliminating athletic scholarships.

The quality of play would fall to about average 1-AA level.

People would still have a blast.

Would be a lot whiter though.

Only thing lacking would be leather helmets.
 




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