Final Tubby Numbers: A Comparative vs. NCAA Qualifiers

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Have been tracking these numbers since the Dan Monson era started in 1999. Will continue tracking during the Lil' Ricky Era. Posting this just to wrap up some Gopher numbers during the Tubby era.

For me the two things that stand out are the Gophers' strong neutral-site numbers under Tubby (after getting no road/neutral wins over NCAA qualifiers under Monson), and the fact that Monson's teams performed better at home vs. quality competition (read: NCAA qualifiers) than Tubby's teams did.

Monson/Molinari/Smith Totals since 1999-2000
Overall Record vs. NCAA Qualifiers: 51-125 (29%)
Tubby Smith vs. NCAA Qualifiers: 29-53 (35.4%)
Dan Monson vs. NCAA Qualifiers: 21-63 (25%)
Jim Molinari vs. NCAA Qualifiers: 1-9 (10%)

Overall Record vs. NCAA Qualifiers/Home: 38-42 (47.5%)
Dan Monson vs. NCAA Qualifiers/Home: 21-19 (52.5%)
Tubby Smith vs. NCAA Qualifiers/Home: 16-20 (44.4%)
Jim Molinari vs. NCAA Qualifiers/Home: 1-3 (25%)

Overall Record vs. NCAA Qualifiers/Road: 4-63 (6%)
Tubby Smith vs. NCAA Qualifiers/Road: 4-24 (14.3%)
Jim Molinari vs. NCAA Qualifiers/Road: 0-6 (0%)
Dan Monson vs. NCAA Qualifiers/Road: 0-33 (0%)

Overall Record vs. NCAA Qualifiers/Neutral: 9-20 (31%)
Tubby Smith vs. NCAA Qualifiers/Neutral: 9-9 (50%)
Jim Molinari vs. NCAA Qualifiers/Neutral: 0-0 (0%)
Dan Monson vs. NCAA Qualifiers/Neutral: 0-11 (0%)

Overall Record vs. NCAA Qualifiers/Road & Neutral Combined: 13-83 (13.5%)
Tubby Smith vs. NCAA Qualifiers/Road & Neutral Combined: 13-33 (28.3%)
Jim Molinari vs. NCAA Qualifiers/Road & Neutral Combined: 0-6 (0%)
Dan Monson vs. NCAA Qualifiers/Road & Neutral Combined: 0-44 (0%)

In the NCAA Tournament: 1-4 (20%)
Tubby Smith: 1-3 (25%)
Dan Monson: 0-1 (0%)
Jim Molinari: 0-0 (0%)

Tubby's Teams vs. NCAA Qualifiers
2007-08 (1-8, 11.1%)
@ UNLV (L, 64-81)
@ Michigan State (L, 59-65)
Indiana (L, 60-65)
Michigan State (L, 73-78)
Wisconsin (L, 47-63)
@ Wisconsin (L, 56-65)
@ Purdue (L, 53-65)
@ Indiana (L, 55-69)
vs. Indiana (W, 59-58)

2008-09 (7-9, 43.8%)
North Dakota State (W, 90-76)
Cornell (W, 71-54)
vs. Louisville (W, 70-64)
Michigan State (L, 58-70)
Ohio State (W, 68-59)
@ Wisconsin (W, 78-74)
Purdue (L, 62-70)
Illinois (W, 59-36)
@ Michigan State (L, 47-76)
@ Ohio State (L, 58-64)
@ Michigan (L, 62-74)
@ Illinois (L, 41-52)
Wisconsin (W, 51-46)
Michigan (L, 64-67)
vs. Michigan State (L, 56-64)
vs. Texas (L, 62-76) – NCAA Tournament

2009-10 (6-8, 42.9%)
vs. Butler (W, 82-73)
vs. Texas A&M (L, 65-66)
Morgan State (W, 94-64)
@ Purdue (L, 60-79)
Ohio State (W, 73-62)
@ Michigan State (L, 53-60)
Michigan State (L, 64-65)
@ Ohio State (L, 63-85)
Wisconsin (W, 68-52)
Purdue (L, 58-59)
vs. Michigan State (W, 72-67)
vs. Purdue (W, 69-42)
vs. Ohio State (L, 61-90)
vs. Xavier (L, 54-65) – NCAA Tournament

2010-11 (6-10, 37.5%)
Wofford (W, 69-55)
vs. North Carolina (W, 72-67)
vs. West Virginia (W, 74-70)
Akron (W, 66-58)
@ Wisconsin (L, 60-68)
@ Michigan State (L, 62-71)
@ Ohio State (L, 64-67)
Purdue (W, 70-67)
@ Michigan (W, 69-64)
@ Purdue (L, 61-73)
Ohio State (L, 69-82)
Illinois (L, 62-71)
@ Penn State (L, 63-66)
Michigan State (L, 48-53)
Michigan (L, 63-70)
Penn State (L, 63-66)

2011-12 (2-9, 18.2%)
South Dakota State (W, 71-55)
@ Michigan (L, 56-61)
Purdue (L, 66-79)
@ Indiana (W, 77-74)
@ Michigan State (L, 52-68)
Wisconsin (L, 61-68)
Ohio State (L, 68-78)
Michigan State (L, 61-66)
Indiana (L, 50-69)
@ Wisconsin (L, 45-52)
vs. Michigan (L, 69-73)

2012-13 (7-9, 43.8%)
vs. Duke (L, 71-89)
vs. Memphis (W, 84-75)
South Dakota State (W, 88-64)
Michigan State (W, 76-63)
@ Illinois (W, 84-67)
@ Indiana (L, 81-88)
Michigan (L, 75-83)
@ Wisconsin (L, 44-45)
@ Michigan State (L, 50-61)
Illinois (L, 53-57)
Wisconsin (W, 58-53)
@ Ohio State (L, 45-71)
Indiana (W, 77-73)
vs. Illinois (L, 49-51)
vs. UCLA (W, 83-63) – NCAA Tournament
vs. Florida (L, 64-78) – NCAA Tournament
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Miscellaneous NCAA Tournament factoids. ...

NCAA Tournament Every Year since 2000
1. Duke
2. Gonzaga
3. Kansas
4. Michigan State
5. Wisconsin

BCS Programs with no NCAA Appearances since 2000
1. Nebraska
2. Northwestern
3. Oregon State
4. Rutgers

BCS Programs with no NCAA Wins since 2000
1. Nebraska
2. Northwestern
3. Oregon State
4. Providence
5. Rutgers
6. South Carolina
 


Thanks SS. I don't know how you put all of this together, but it sure makes for some interesting stuff. Thanks, again. Doc.
 

Dan Monson vs. NCAA Qualifiers/Road & Neutral Combined: 0-44 (0%)

That is still staggering.
 

Dan Monson vs. NCAA Qualifiers/Road & Neutral Combined: 0-44 (0%)

That is still staggering.

That's one thing that's easy to forget is how much of a drought we had during Monson's tenure away from home against the good teams. In fact, I remember us wondering what would happen first: the Gophers would get a true road win against an NCAA qualifier or the Twins would have a 30 home run hitter (another unbelievable drought considering the home run totals of the time).
 


I enjoy the fact that we are no longer on that bottom list
 


Awesome. I love reading your stuff like this. Keep it up, SS!
 

Great post. Not very flattering but great info. Do you keep similar records for football?
 



Dan Monson vs. NCAA Qualifiers/Road & Neutral Combined: 0-44 (0%)

That is still staggering.

Direct reflection of talent, or lack there of, during the Monson era. Talent wins on the road. A less talented team can surprise a better team at home. This factor among all of them does provide strong data that Tubby did elevate this program more than some appreciate.
 

When I saw the title of the thread I was going to avoid it, but then I saw that SS wrote it, and I'm glad I clicked it. Good stuff.
 

Direct reflection of talent, or lack there of, during the Monson era. Talent wins on the road. A less talented team can surprise a better team at home. This factor among all of them does provide strong data that Tubby did elevate this program more than some appreciate.

Yep. The program is clearly in better shape now than it was before Tubby took over, though, I do think it hit a plateau.
 




It is amazing that Monson lasted as long as he did with that miserable record against good teams away from home. And it also bears mentioning that the Big Ten overall had some mediocre years during the Monson era. I believe all of the teams in the league had multiple seasons when they didn't win 20 games during Monson's years in the league, even MSU and UW who kept making the tourney every year. The B1G had some good years in '99 and 2000, but the league I think gradually declined in quality to the point of the nadir in 2006 when not a single team made the S16 or deserved to make it (though the 2006 regular season league RPI was good, which just shows you how worthless the RPI is). In recent years the Big Ten has rebounded and had at least 2 teams in the S16 every year since 2008. 2008 was kind of the beginning of the comeback I think, and 2013 may have been the peak. It was generally a tougher Big Ten that Tubby faced compared to Monson.
 

It is amazing that Monson lasted as long as he did with that miserable record against good teams away from home. And it also bears mentioning that the Big Ten overall had some mediocre years during the Monson era. I believe all of the teams in the league had multiple seasons when they didn't win 20 games during Monson's years in the league, even MSU and UW who kept making the tourney every year. The B1G had some good years in '99 and 2000, but the league I think gradually declined in quality to the point of the nadir in 2006 when not a single team made the S16 or deserved to make it (though the 2006 regular season league RPI was good, which just shows you how worthless the RPI is). In recent years the Big Ten has rebounded and had at least 2 teams in the S16 every year since 2008. 2008 was kind of the beginning of the comeback I think, and 2013 may have been the peak. It was generally a tougher Big Ten that Tubby faced compared to Monson.

+1
 

Tubby certainly took a step forward in making us competitive in neutral court games and even stealing some nice road wins (IU, Wiscy). Here's to Pitino getting the home court advantage back. And maybe winning in the Izzone. At least once. Please.
 

. ... And maybe winning in the Izzone. At least once. Please.

And I'd like to win in Columbus and West Lafayette, too, please. I believe those are the other B1G venues where Tubby didn't get a W.
 

Tubby certainly took a step forward in making us competitive in neutral court games and even stealing some nice road wins (IU, Wiscy). Here's to Pitino getting the home court advantage back. And maybe winning in the Izzone. At least once. Please.

Even Carmody won in the Izzone.
 




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