ESPN: Penn State's attendance down again (96K this yr, from 108K in 07)

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Penn State football games averaged 96,730 fans per game this season at Beaver Stadium, the worst average crowd since a $93 million expansion completed in 2001 added some 13,000 seats and brought capacity to more than 107,000.

Season Fans Per Game
2007 108,917
2008 108,254
2009 107,008
2010 104,234
2011 101,427
2012 96,730

http://espn.go.com/college-football...endance-lowest-2001-beaver-stadium-renovation

Go Gophers!!
 

They just need to improve the game day atmosphere!
 

PSU should sell $10 tickets and hire an outside firm to sell season tickets.
 

It was very obvious on the broadcast last night - as I flipped between our game and theirs and then watching OT it was very obvious there were large chunks of open seats in the endzone and upper deck of the sidelines. Still a huge draw of number of fans compared to us even on our best game this year WITH cheap tickets. I will say that Thanksgiving weekend likely played a part in it for yesterday, but I wouldn't be surprised to hear that many people lost faith in their program after the EPIC scandal that took place last year.

That being said, I've noticed student section turnout at many schools has been rough this year - witnessing it firsthand at Iowa, paying attention to Wisconsin, PSU, MSU, and a few others on TV. I think that winning or having a certain atmosphere is not enough and I'm not sure what athletic departments can do if teams like Wisconsin and all their gameday traditions, 45k student body, and 2 recent Rose Bowls can't fill the student section at kickoff or even by halftime. MSU has had quite a few good seasons recently (winning 4 straight against Michigan even) and came in to the season ranked in the top 10. Lost their 6 games by 13 total points. Yet against ranked Nebraska their student section wasa little over half-full. I think there's a tough road ahead if your school is not named Michigan, Ohio State, or Nebraska in that students may only feel the desire to show up if the game is against a highly ranked opponent (not necessarily just a rival), your team has won most or all of their games, and the time of the game is right (night games are best, 2:30 starts haven't shown on TV to be any better than 11 AM starts as far as students go).

As for regular season ticket holders, I may sound a little lame here, but I do think there are many people out there (in general, not just MN) who don't have the funds to afford tickets and gameday expenses like they did prior to the downturn. I don't think it's a coincidence that PSU's numbers were high through 2008 and then began dropping (2008 they went to the Rose Bowl, 2009 they still went 11-2, it's not as if the team wasn't winning). Tickets, fees, parking, concessions, travel is all expensive, especially for schools like PSU where their fans mostly don't reside in the area. I don't really know what the other issues are affecting attendance, but I suspect increased TV coverage and quality of games broadcast, the ability to watch many games basically at once, rewind/pause live TV, ACTUALLY see replays rather than being left in the dark, has all contributed to people deciding to just stay at home. Perhaps there's a difference in priorities for people (generational? geographic?) making them care less about football or at least attending football games.

Whatever the case, I think the U has a VERY tough road ahead as far as attendance goes if schools like MSU with good recent track record and PSU with all their history and tradition can't fill their stadiums... Ticket prices, atmosphere, winning won't be enough, clearly.
 

Well said RailBaron...I was actually wondering about some of this while looking around the stands at the game yesterday (and suspected similar things at the badger game when comparing the stands this year versus the last time we played there). I also have to wonder if maybe there's a nation-wide trend starting (especially among students) to watch from home instead. I know other leagues have started to worry about attendance going forward given the growing number of options for watching games at home/bars, etc, and the generally improved quality of those experiences (HD, ability to track stats and other games in detail online, etc).

Whatever's going on there, I'm not at all surprised about PSU. That little dip in 2009 is a little odd, maybe, but they had some iffy years (by their standards) after that, and obviously the scandal drove a bunch of people away.
 


A big issue at PSU is that they instituted a required "donation" system much like Gopher hoops has done, in order to keep good seats you may have had for decades. Don't want to pay, and they move you off to the boonies. From what I'd heard from some fans of the program, this really upset a lot of of season ticket holders, most of whom travel long distances to the middle of nowhere to the games. It was that, even before the scandal, that drove attendance down. A 10% drop in attendance is pretty significant, even if the overall numbers are still huge.

If you think attendance is bad here at Minnesota, look at the pictures from places like Kentucky and Miami.

I'm not sure what percentage of games start at 11:00 nationwide, but I don't doubt that drives attendance down as well in some places.
 




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