ESPN: Arizona fires Mike Stoops

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I saw they were 1-4 and said to myself he won't make it through the season. I thought it would be closer to the end of the season though.
 

My thoughts too Maxy. I am surprised they fired him so quickly. However, he had been holding onto that job by thread. I am sure one of his brothers will give him a job.
 

GO4INLALALAND said:
My thoughts too Maxy. I am surprised they fired him so quickly. However, he had been holding onto that job by thread. I am sure one of his brothers will give him a job.
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His brother Mark's on the hot seat at Florida State as well. No help there.
 




7-1 to start the season last year only to lose out and finish 7-6. Starts the year 1-5. In a way, similar to our prior situation.
 

By contrast, Frank Solich was fired at Nebraska after a 58-19 record, including 9-3 the season he was fired. Different expectations.
 

Amen! Where are all the morons that were on here calling for Stoops to get the Minnesota job? I might have to dig up those
threads.

THLGO4- by your moniker I assume you are in Tallahassee. Is Mark Stoops really on the hot seat as the FSU DC?
 



How about Mike Leach to UA?
 


The guys on sports 620 down here, were screaming for Leach and Tressel this afternoon. Leach wouldn't be a bad hire but Tressel? Too soon methinks.
 

Arbogast said:
The guys on sports 620 down here, were screaming for Leach and Tressel this afternoon. Leach wouldn't be a bad hire but Tressel? Too soon methinks.
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I wouldn't go near Tressel and his dubious morality. I'll predict right now he never coaches again. He has no chance to coach in the pros and I can't see him taking a lesser job in the college ranks again. He's more likley to be milking cows on the farm with Clem.

Leach would be fun in the Pac12.
 




MaxyJR1 said:
I saw they were 1-4 and said to myself he won't make it through the season. I thought it would be closer to the end of the season though.
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I think that a lot of teams would be 2-4 after playing Northern AZ, Okla St, Stanford, Oregon, USC and Oregon State. But he was 1-5 and on thin ice.
 



GopherGod said:
Who cares, he is there to make the college team a winner, not send players to the NFL.
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475 players drafted to the NFL do, particularly the 11 that are in the Pro Football HOF. The guys that come back care, and are forever grateful to the training they receive from their alma mater, so much that they pledge to help those that come after them, like this..

http://trojanfootballalumni.com/speedweb/site/index.php?site=USCFootball&p=aboutus.php

Why are kids that generate tons of money for a university any less worthy of an education in their chosen field than the rest of the student body? Universities owe them instruction that will prepare them for the next level, just like the academic students...what they do after that is all up to both groups. You just can't use your players like that.

It's damn hard to win in college AND run a system that these kids will face at the next level. That's why you pay coaches the big bucks...to continue the legacy beyond the college level.
 


Trojan Princess said:
475 players drafted to the NFL do, particularly the 11 that are in the Pro Football HOF. The guys that come back care, and are forever grateful to the training they receive from their alma mater, so much that they pledge to help those that come after them, like this..

http://trojanfootballalumni.com/speedweb/site/index.php?site=USCFootball&p=aboutus.php

Why are kids that generate tons of money for a university any less worthy of an education in their chosen field than the rest of the student body? Universities owe them instruction that will prepare them for the next level, just like the academic students...what they do after that is all up to both groups. You just can't use your players like that.

It's damn hard to win in college AND run a system that these kids will face at the next level. That's why you pay coaches the big bucks...to continue the legacy beyond the college level.
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Great, but my point is you don't evaluate a college coach by how many players he puts in the NFL, you do it based upon how his teams perform at the college level, that is why Leach is well respected for his coaching acumen. For example, Lane Kiffin will put more players in the NFL that Chris Peterson the next few years, but find me one respected person that would say Lane is a better coach.
 

Success at college football is the measure of a college football coach. If a college football coach gets a lot of players to the NFL, but doesn't win games, he's getting fired. If a college football coach doesn't send a lot of players to the NFL, but does win games in college football, then he's going to have a statue made in his honor.

No one is saying that football players are "less worthy" than other students. Football IS an extracurricular activity, college football players are supposed to be "academic students" as much as any other. A college football coach doesn't work for the NFL. utting players in the NFL is nice, but it is only an instrumental good: if a coach can put players in the NFL, that will help attract highly talented players to come there. This in turn can help the coaches job of winning games.

If a college team wins games, but doesn't send a lot of players to the NFL, the players aren't being "cheated" of anything. For the most, the players would who made it to the NFL would have made it anyway, regardless of the school they attended.
 

Trojan Princess said:
I just don't get the Leach love...who does he send to the pros?
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Who cares about the pros. I'd rather send no one to the pros and win a ton then vice versa. And Tech sent a number of kids under Leach to the pro's.

Or better yet, read RR's post above ^^^^
 

Trojan Princess said:
I just don't get the Leach love...who does he send to the pros?
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10 consecutive winning seasons
8 consecutive seasons with at least 8 wins
4 seasons with at least 9 wins[62]
1 season with 11 wins
9 consecutive bowl appearances[63]
5 bowl wins (most by any individual coach in the history of the program)[63]
4 seasons completed with team ranked in the Top 25[64]
19–11 record against in-state conference rivals Baylor, Texas, and Texas A&M
53–11 record at Jones AT&T Stadium, home of the Texas Tech Red Raider football team
2008 AP Big 12 Coach of the Year[30]
2008 Big 12 Coach of the Year[31]
Coached 1 Fred Biletnikoff Award (Best Wide Receiver) winner: Michael Crabtree (two-time winner)
Coached 1 Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award (Best Senior Quarterback) winner: Graham Harrell
Coached 1 Mosi Tatupu Award (Best Kick Returner) winner: Wes Welker
Coached 3 Sammy Baugh Trophy (Outstanding Quarterback) winners: Kliff Kingsbury, B.J. Symons, and Graham Harrell
More than 150 NCAA, Big 12 and school records broken as Texas Tech's head coach[7]
Career record of 84-43


who cares about nfl success.
 

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