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West East
Minnesota Rutgers
Wisconsin Penn State
Iowa tOSU
Mizzou Indiana
Nebraska Purdue
Illinois MIchigan
NW Michigan State

Six games against each in your division, two against the other side. No way Michigan and OSU would agree to only play each other only every 3+ years so Michigan stays in East and NW goes to West. Illinois and Mizzou stay together; GophersHawksBadqueers stay together. Good balance.

Perfect. Send my Big10 commish salary to my house.
 

the east would be heavily more talented than the west division
 

bankonit said:
the east would be heavily more talented than the west division
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It's the same way in the Big 12. The South is way more talented than the North. So what's your point?
 

Divisions like that would be great for the future of Minnesota football. My guess is that the Big Ten will want a bigger name school in the west to make a conference title game a big deal. I think the ideal (from a ratings standpoint) conference title game would feature some combination of Michigan, Ohio State, and Penn State. In this scenario, none of those matchups could happen in a title game.
 

EG#9 said:
Divisions like that would be great for the future of Minnesota football. My guess is that the Big Ten will want a bigger name school in the west to make a conference title game a big deal. I think the ideal (from a ratings standpoint) conference title game would feature some combination of Michigan, Ohio State, and Penn State. In this scenario, none of those matchups could happen in a title game.
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You do have a point. From a national perspective, though, I don't think people would complain about a Nebraska-OSU conference title game.

The real trick is to get varied matchups from year to year. The reason the B12 champ game is lame is because the rep from the south is always Oklahoma or Texas. Boring.

If the east had Mich, PSU, OSU, ND, it might be stacked.... but it would prevent a near monopoly like OK and Tex have on the B12 south.
 


rotate

Why remain static? If the Big Ten expands they should just move to rotating teams in between two divisions every other year or something similar.
 

I think the best way to solve the 'balanced divisions' problem is with a North-South approach.

North: Minn, wisc, NU, MSU, ND, Mich, Rut
South: Neb, Iowa, ILL, Pur, Ind, OSU, PSU

And there would be permanent rivals from the other side:
Minn: Neb, Iowa
Wisc: Iowa, ILL
NU: ILL, Pur
MSU: PSU, Ind
ND: Pur, OSU
Mich: OSU, Neb
Rut: PSU, Ind

****And why doesn't everyone play on championship weekend? Why cant the divisions simply be paired off for that final weekend. 1 vs 1 (champ game neutral site) 2vs2, 3vs3, etc. The non-champ games could be played in the North home sites one year and the South the next. This would help prevent everyone's rust before bowl games. This bonus game would be a good way to play a team from the other division who might otherwise not be seen for a few years****
 

MrGopher said:
I think the best way to solve the 'balanced divisions' problem is with a North-South approach.

North: Minn, wisc, NU, MSU, ND, Mich, Rut
South: Neb, Iowa, ILL, Pur, Ind, OSU, PSU

And there would be permanent rivals from the other side:
Minn: Neb, Iowa
Wisc: Iowa, ILL
NU: ILL, Pur
MSU: PSU, Ind
ND: Pur, OSU
Mich: OSU, Neb
Rut: PSU, Ind

****And why doesn't everyone play on championship weekend? Why cant the divisions simply be paired off for that final weekend. 1 vs 1 (champ game neutral site) 2vs2, 3vs3, etc. The non-champ games could be played in the North home sites one year and the South the next. This would help prevent everyone's rust before bowl games. This bonus game would be a good way to play a team from the other division who might otherwise not be seen for a few years****
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I like this layout and when Delaney asks me for my opinion, I will tell him I support this. The only thing I would offer to the discussion is changing the name of the divisions... North and South are a bit unimaginative.... Lets go with Earth and Sky divisions, or Lakes and Prairie divisions, or Sun and Moon divisions.... spice it up a bit....
 

Since airports are huge in Gopher Football lore, why not name the divisions - Division A and Division B.
 



There's nothing that's going to stop this, but I just hate it. Hate it. I don't like that you don't play everyone in your conference every year. I really won't like it when you don't see teams from your conference for three or more years. OSU and PSU are here in 2010. What if they don't come back to Minnesota until 2015 or later? I think I'd rather bust the Big Ten up entirely into two-eight team conferences rather than have one with 16 teams.
 

One of the reason for realignment is to reduce travel for all BT schools. East/West is the best solution for that issue and would save each university signficant USD annually in travel expenses for all BT sports to warrant that alignment, not just for football.
 

I need tickets to the Indiania/Rutgers game

in Bloomington
 




Breakin' The Plane said:
There's nothing that's going to stop this, but I just hate it. Hate it. I don't like that you don't play everyone in your conference every year. I really won't like it when you don't see teams from your conference for three or more years. OSU and PSU are here in 2010. What if they don't come back to Minnesota until 2015 or later? I think I'd rather bust the Big Ten up entirely into two-eight team conferences rather than have one with 16 teams.
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That's a legit concern. But there are some Big Ten teams that I just don't get excited for. The schools are too far away, and there is little interesting history or competitiveness to those 'rivalries'.

I'd rather play nebraska than OSU, and missouri than PSU, Iowa St. than Indiana.

I do wish that every team could get to play every other team, but there are just not enough weeks of college football!! Just the nature of the beast nowadays.
 

MrGopher said:
That's a legit concern. But there are some Big Ten teams that I just don't get excited for. The schools are too far away, and there is little interesting history or competitiveness to those 'rivalries'.

I'd rather play nebraska than OSU, and missouri than PSU, Iowa St. than Indiana.

I do wish that every team could get to play every other team, but there are just not enough weeks of college football!! Just the nature of the beast nowadays.
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Without doing too much research, I'd assume that the Pac 10 is the only BCS conference where you play every team every year. I like that.
 



Breakin' The Plane said:
There's nothing that's going to stop this, but I just hate it. Hate it. I don't like that you don't play everyone in your conference every year. I really won't like it when you don't see teams from your conference for three or more years. OSU and PSU are here in 2010. What if they don't come back to Minnesota until 2015 or later? I think I'd rather bust the Big Ten up entirely into two-eight team conferences rather than have one with 16 teams.
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I don't think splitting into divisions would be that big of a deal if Minnesota didn't have so many trophy games. Every year we have to play for the the Axe and Floyd, that's a given. But it would also be nice if we played for the Jug every year too. I wouldn't mind seeing Penn State once every couple of seasons. The Bell is kind of a pointless trophy since it is so new. The Jug is way cooler.

So long as we keep the Axe, Floyd, and some how play for the Jug every year, divisions in the Big Ten would be cool.
 

Mick Turition said:
West East
Minnesota Rutgers
Wisconsin Penn State
Iowa tOSU
Mizzou Indiana
Nebraska Purdue
Illinois MIchigan
NW Michigan State
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My preferences

12 teams - Add UND only, put them in the west as defined above, and go to 12 teams. Play an eight game schedule. Play teams in other division every other year

14 teams - Align as above but with UND instead of Mizzou. UND & Nebraska would provide enough 'balance' for the championsihp game. This is about the only 14 team alignment that I like. The conference schedule would need to be expanded to 9 games just to ensure you play everyone 'nearly' every other year (3 of every 7 years).

16 teams - I don't even want to think about it.
 

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