Will this get the same pub as Bo?
It happens every year all over college basketball. The only difference is that Jarrod went to the media and provided them with quotes to make it a story. The majority of the talking heads on ESPN have absolutely no clue what they are talking about in regards to player transfer restrictions...they don't understand how common it is. All they see is a high profile coach at a successful program doing something that on the surface seems petty.
The reason why nobody is jumping on the Tulsa coach, Frank Martin or Tubby Smith is: 1) There are no quotes and 2) Those programs don't pull in enough viewers. When people see an ESPN headline saying "Tulsa Coach places restriction on..." or "Frank Martin Restricts ___" no one cares because neither the subject nor the actual action is important enough to warrant a click from most people.
GophersOnTheRise said:Tubby didn't restrict the entire ACC. Not saying Bo is a terrible person for doing so, but Tubby restricted fewer schools than Bo is for Uthoff. If Bo restricted only the Big Ten and a couple other schools this wouldn't be as big of news as it is. I'm not providing a stance on whether I think Bo is right or wrong, nor am I saying there aren't other factors playing into it, so don't get all defensive, but you can't disregard the amount of schools he's restricting.
The difference between Tubby and Bo. Tubby took Colton Iverson and said, you can't transfer to any school currently on our schedule. Now, anyone who knows the Gophers scheduling habits, that means no big 10 and no going to below average mid majors. How could Tubby be so evil? It also sounds like when someone wants to transfer, he works with them to find a home. Where as here, it looks like Bo said sure, feel free to look around on your own, but I'm not going to help you and will actually make it more difficult for you.
Most of which are our direct competition.Bo Ryan is telling his guy, a very highly regarded recruit, here are a bunch of high-major BCS programs you can't go to.
If he did that there would be an outrage, because there is absolutely no reason for him to restrict those schools.If Bo told him he can't transfer to UNI or Creighton but said ISU and Virginia were okay, I don't think there'd be as big of an issue.
When you restrict a player from any school he would consider, you are not looking out for his best interests. How was Tubby "looking out" for Iverson when he restricted the Big Ten?But when you are banning a kid from playing on multiple high-majors, when it is obvious he'd be best off at one of those high-majors, you are no longer thinking of his best interests.
More or less trueCollege basketball recruiting is all about PR and public perception.
What did Tubby do that made his restrictions classy? By adore do you mean that the national media doesn't care enough about him to write a story about a minor issue?Regardless of the specific actions, Tubby handled every move with class and is adored by the media
Or the kid is acting spoiled? FWIW, players and coaches at UNI knew he was going to transfer three months ago, but our staff and players found out last week, one day after signing day. He screwed us over big time because now we have only eleven scholarship players. Then he goes running to the media telling them that Bo restricted him from going to all the Big 12 schools, when in reality it was only ISU. Bo has granted multiple schools the right to talk with Jarrod about a transfer, but he doesn't want a kid with intimate knowledge of our program going to our direct competitors...which is completely understandable.Bo Ryan handled it like an idiot and obviously rubbed the kid the wrong way enough to make him go to the media.
True, but it won't affect UW in any meaningful way.Regardless if Bo is right or wrong in his actions, he has created a PR hit that no program wants or needs.
Kobe Bryant was accused of rape and is one of the most celebrated athletes in the NBA. OJ Simpson was accused of murder and is one of the most hated men in America. Both Andy Petite and A-Rod had steroid accusations yet both are viewed differently. It's all about PR and handling even negative situations with class and character. Bo is doing neither of those.
I think you have a serious misunderstanding of the restrictions on Colton Iverson. No Big Ten because the Gophers play all the Big Ten teams. Makes sense for WI as well. No other teams on the schedule for the upcoming season. Makes sense for both as well. No one else was restricted. Not the entire ACC, and not a team not on the schedule. You are equating ISU to competition, but the only reason that would matter is if Bo is afraid of a player saying "Ya, I was at WI, just wasn't the place for me." Tubby clearly wasn't worried about that for Iverson or White. Hell, he recruits in California sometimes but he let Cobbs go to California, which is Tubby's competition. And based on the articles from the time Cobbs transferred, Tubby actually called the California coach and talked to him about Cobbs.
ISU is on the list because of tampering allegations and because we are in multiple recruiting battle with them right now. If this happened two years ago, ISU doesn't make the list. I'm still not convinced it's actually the entire ACC, only Virginia tried to contact him, which prompted the restriction (obvious reasons why Virginia is restricted), but it shouldn't really matter anyway, because Jarrod said himself that he wants to be close to home. Furthermore, if he went to the ACC, there'd be a decent chance we'd play again him, and Bo doesn't want that. I have said all along though, if the ACC is being restricted, I do not support Bo's decision. Every other school makes sense.
Furthermore, what did Tubby ever do to "help" his players transfer?
<b>Devoe Joseph</b>
"Joseph was suspended twice this season by UM men’s basketball coach Tubby Smith, for a total of seven games, for unspecified violation of team rules. Altman said he had two conversations with Smith, who recommended that Oregon take Joseph after the guard decided to transfer.
“I talked with Tubby Smith a couple of times about him coming and joining our team and Tubby thought it was a good move for both Devoe and our program,” Altman said. “I’ve known Tubby for a long time. I think it’s going to be a win-win. We need some help, some leadership. We’ve got a good freshman class coming in and we’re excited that he’s joined our team. ...
“(Smith) recommended very strongly that we take him. I think it worked out for both of us.”
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<b>Royce White</b>
The 6-foot-8 inch 270 pounder ran into some legal problems at Minnesota. He almost came to UK when he left Tubby. White has a fear of flying. He didn't want to take the trip to Lexington and ended up signing with Iowa State where he is very happy.
"He didn't want to get on the plane," says Cal.
If he did, Cal believes he would have become a Cat. White's grandfather drove him to Louisville.
As far as his off the court problems, Cal liked White's heart so he wasn't concerned. He talked to Tubby about White before going to recruit him.
"He's a fine young man and is doing well and everyone should be happy for him," says Cal.
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Those are two of the most damaging transfers in the history of the program. Both young men helped by Tubby Smith after they decided to leave.
It is normal for the coaches inquiring about a transferring kid to talk to kid's former coach...that's not helping the kid, that's doing your job as a coach. What would you say if Tubby didn't recommend the kid and said he'd be a bad fit for Oregon? No coach would do that unless the kid was an absolute nightmare.