Conference Realignment

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No doubt another big shoe is going to drop. I imagine it won't be popular by fans.
 

I got a couple paragraphs in and had to stop. That light grey font is really tough to read against the white background.
 

Ski U Master said:
I got a couple paragraphs in and had to stop. That light grey font is really tough to read against the white background.
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Same. Plus the skinny font even made it worse. That said interesting read. I think he is right on a lot of things and the super conferences are-a-comin' boys, make no mistake.
 

I prefer something that takes computers and committees out of the equation to get teams into playoff. He does that with his plan. Big question is how does recruiting play into this? Do the richer as kids won't want to chance playing for teams that have no shot at the upper division? How is revenue going to be shared across the board? Balanced schedules?

How about a senior laden team wins to move up the next year and then gets pounded in every game?
 


I would completely trust any information coming from something called C'est La TV concerning college athletics. Thats where I go for all things college football.
 

t-docious said:
Same. Plus the skinny font even made it worse. That said interesting read. I think he is right on a lot of things and the super conferences are-a-comin' boys, make no mistake.
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Agree on all counts including font critique.

The game is going to change dramatically in the next 10 years as it pertains to conferences and television contracts.
 

"Howzabout relegating the last-place team in every major conference to the mid-majors while promoting a better team?"

It's hard to take soccer serious but a guy I work with has been suggesting for years that college football adopt this European model. If this were to happen, how long would it take for NDSU to swap us out and what level of meltdown could we expect here on GH?
 




MNGoldenGophers1 said:
"Howzabout relegating the last-place team in every major conference to the mid-majors while promoting a better team?"

It's hard to take soccer serious but a guy I work with has been suggesting for years that college football adopt this European model. If this were to happen, how long would it take for NDSU to swap us out and what level of meltdown could we expect here on GH?
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I had the same thought on the European model of top/up-bottom/down transfer between competitive level.
 

I don't like the relegation idea in college football. It'd kill trophy games and reduce rivalries. I'd also be opposed to 16 team conferences for the same reason, unless you played the 7 other division teams plus 2 crossovers, but even then the new teams lose rivalry games until new ones are formed.
 


MNGoldenGophers1 said:
"Howzabout relegating the last-place team in every major conference to the mid-majors while promoting a better team?"

It's hard to take soccer serious but a guy I work with has been suggesting for years that college football adopt this European model. If this were to happen, how long would it take for NDSU to swap us out and what level of meltdown could we expect here on GH?
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Couple things: As long as Purdue, Indiana, and Rutgers are involved I don't think we would have any fear of getting dropped down. Also, they would probably start with the MAC...whatever conference NDSU "plays" in would be way down the list. But you're right...we'd probably have to shut this board down.
 



GopherHomer said:
Couple things: As long as Purdue, Indiana, and Rutgers are involved I don't think we would have any fear of getting dropped down. Also, they would probably start with the MAC...whatever conference NDSU "plays" in would be way down the list. But you're right...we'd probably have to shut this board down.
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The thing about NDSU is that they are in a different division now which plays by slightly different rules when it comes to admissions and scholarships. Can't remember what it was that Kill liked about that system, but NDSU probably couldn't take flyers on some of the kids they are landing now which would certainly put a dent in their program.
 

Bill Connelly at SB Nation has done a simulation of a relegation system since 2005. I think he bases it on Sagarin rankings which is really the only system that compares teams across conferences/divisions. He set up regional "columns" of conferences, for the B1G it goes B1G>MAC>Missouri Valley>Ohio Valley/Northeast. He hasn't simulated the aftermath of last season yet.

Here is how the Gophers fared in his simulation:
2005: B1G
2006: B1G
2007: B1G, relegated to MAC
2008: MAC
2009: MAC, promoted to B1G
2010: B1G
2011: B1G, relegated to MAC
2012: MAC
2013: MAC
2014: MAC, promoted to B1G
2015: B1G

Before the 2015 season this was the B1G conference:
Iowa, Michigan State, Michigan, Minnesota, Nebraska, NDSU, Northern Illinois, Northwestern, Ohio State, Penn State, Toledo, Wisconsin
 

Ski U Master said:
Bill Connelly at SB Nation has done a simulation of a relegation system since 2005. I think he bases it on Sagarin rankings which is really the only system that compares teams across conferences/divisions. He set up regional "columns" of conferences, for the B1G it goes B1G>MAC>Missouri Valley>Ohio Valley/Northeast. He hasn't simulated the aftermath of last season yet.

Here is how the Gophers fared in his simulation:
2005: B1G
2006: B1G
2007: B1G, relegated to MAC
2008: MAC
2009: MAC, promoted to B1G
2010: B1G
2011: B1G, relegated to MAC
2012: MAC
2013: MAC
2014: MAC, promoted to B1G
2015: B1G

Before the 2015 season this was the B1G conference:
Iowa, Michigan State, Michigan, Minnesota, Nebraska, NDSU, Northern Illinois, Northwestern, Ohio State, Penn State, Toledo, Wisconsin
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Interesting. Thanks for posting.
 

Why would anyone from a P5 conference agree to a relegation system. We are more likely to see them break from the NCAA than we are to see a relegation system.
 

Some guy said:
Why would anyone from a P5 conference agree to a relegation system. We are more likely to see them break from the NCAA than we are to see a relegation system.
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Obviously they wouldn't, fun to talk about what it could look like tho.
 


The conclusion was silly, but there was some interesting information in there. Considering that conference realignment is all about money -- meaning TV sets -- who are the potential haves and have nots? Is it possible that one of the San Diego schools could sneak into a major conference due to their TV market? Is it possible that Iowa isn't big enough for both Iowa and Iowa State? BYU has somewhat of a national following; is it large enough to make up for their small home TV market? Houston and Cincinnati are both in large markets, but are those schools sharing too many TV sets with other schools?

The author provided some food for thought. I wish he wouldn't chewed on that more.
 

You would never see relegation ad long as we have conferences that are separate entities and make their own rules. Conferences are older than the NCAA.

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Beyond the relegation idea, I think that long-term, we will someday see the major D1 programs re-group into four "super-conferences." Whether they do that within the structure of the NCAA, or break away and form their own organization, remains to be see. Won't happen overnight - but in another 10 years or so, I wouldn't be surprised if we see more change in college FB.
 

short ornery norwegian said:
Beyond the relegation idea, I think that long-term, we will someday see the major D1 programs re-group into four "super-conferences." Whether they do that within the structure of the NCAA, or break away and form their own organization, remains to be see. Won't happen overnight - but in another 10 years or so, I wouldn't be surprised if we see more change in college FB.
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Here was one guy's stab at the four 16 team super conferences:
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Left out are the Big 12 leftovers Iowa State, Oklahoma State, and Kansas State.
Link to article
 

Ski U Master said:
Here was one guy's stab at the four 16 team super conferences:

Left out are the Big 12 leftovers Iowa State, Oklahoma State, and Kansas State.
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It's not a bad effort except that OSU and KSU are way better programs with way better histories and (particularly in Oklahoma's case) located in way more football-centric areas than at least a half-dozen or more programs that he chose to include. Virginia and North Carolina are terrible fits in the SEC. Put OSU and KSU in the SEC, Virginia and UNC back in the ACC where they belong, and tell UConn and Cincinnati to take a hike. I would also change others (Notre Dame belongs in the Big Ten, Oklahoma in the "Pac-16", but the ones I mentioned are easy and obvious fixes.
 

Why not just go with 8 conferences and then have an 8 team tourney to end the season. Putting the other half of the four conferences in opposing brackets.

Bracket 1:

B1G E vs. SEC E

ACC N vs. PAC E

Bracket 2:

B1G W vs. PAC W

ACC S vs. SEC W

All games at pre-determined neutral sites.
 

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