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I found it interesting that we have 5 interested high school athletes lined up for 2012. 4 of them ESPN top 150 players.

http://insider.espn.go.com/college-...ing/school?id=135&class=2012&page=considering

Looking at how the offensive line is looking deep and talented this recruiting class, the fact that we have running backs of considerable talent looking forward to visiting the Gophs is an interesting trend. Only time will tell.
 

Brewster had his best recruiting class his first full recruiting season. Not sure if that had to do with his ability to sell the program or if there is a natural bump for new coaches in year one. This will be a trend to watch. We sure could use a big infusion of talent and most importantly depth. Kill is adding some much needed depth in this short class as well. I'm very interested to see how he recruits here as there is no history for Kill at a BCS school that we can compare it to. Let's hope these positives signs are just the start...
 

Not to mention 1 commit already from Nick Rallis who is also on the 150 watch list.
 

Additionally, this is the best MN class that we've seen in a long time.
 

Sparlimb said:
Brewster had his best recruiting class his first full recruiting season. Not sure if that had to do with his ability to sell the program or if there is a natural bump for new coaches in year one. This will be a trend to watch. We sure could use a big infusion of talent and most importantly depth. Kill is adding some much needed depth in this short class as well. I'm very interested to see how he recruits here as there is no history for Kill at a BCS school that we can compare it to. Let's hope these positives signs are just the start...
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I don't understand why so many posters on this board are so worried about this, especially in comparison to other coaches. Coach Kill has demonstrated an ability to recruit the type of player that fits his system, no matter what level he has been at, and his record proves his system works. What makes you think it will be any different here?

Most people were convinced from Day 1 that Brew was going to get all these wonderful recruits, yet he had virtually no track record other than his own personal claims about a few gems. Even with Brew's "prized 2008 class" how does that class rank today? Of the SEVEN 4-star guys, only TWO contribute today (Gray & Cooper), ONE graduated (Simmons) and FOUR are no longer with the team. Of the other 22 recruits, only 8-9 could be considered legitimate contributors. So Brew's best recruiting season, he got less than 50% of the recruits who became contributors.

Does anyone have hard evidence if this is above/below average, or to be expected?

As others have stated, recruiting is pretty much a crapshoot. Stop fretting and think positive about a better team performance this FALL.

I'll get off my soapbox now
 


WHB Brewer said:
Of the SEVEN 4-star guys, only TWO contribute today (Gray & Cooper), ONE graduated (Simmons) and FOUR are no longer with the team.
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Your math is off.

Of those 7:

3 are still on the team (Gray, Cooper, and Green)
2 graduated (Simmons, Pittman)
1 was an idiot and got kicked off the team (Maresh)
1 never qualified and never made it to campus (Hill)

Having 4 out of 7 make meaningful contributions is a pretty decent return rate, in my opinion. You can't blame Brewster for Green's chronic injuries and Maresh being an idiot.

Your overall point is correct, though. Recruiting is largely a crapshoot and there's no sense gnashing one's teeth over a particular class until at least 3 or 4 years later.
 

WHB Brewer said:
I don't understand why so many posters on this board are so worried about this, especially in comparison to other coaches. Coach Kill has demonstrated an ability to recruit the type of player that fits his system, no matter what level he has been at, and his record proves his system works. What makes you think it will be any different here?

Most people were convinced from Day 1 that Brew was going to get all these wonderful recruits, yet he had virtually no track record other than his own personal claims about a few gems. Even with Brew's "prized 2008 class" how does that class rank today? Of the SEVEN 4-star guys, only TWO contribute today (Gray & Cooper), ONE graduated (Simmons) and FOUR are no longer with the team. Of the other 22 recruits, only 8-9 could be considered legitimate contributors. So Brew's best recruiting season, he got less than 50% of the recruits who became contributors.

Does anyone have hard evidence if this is above/below average, or to be expected?

As others have stated, recruiting is pretty much a crapshoot. Stop fretting and think positive about a better team performance this FALL.

I'll get off my soapbox now
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Who said I was "fretting"? I said I was "very interested". Is there a problem with fans being very interested? The OP was about some pretty decent kids having some interest in our school. I'm interested to see how that pans out in year one. I, like you, am even MORE interested in the product on the field. Can we have a Tubby like turnaround on the football team. I know it will be a lot harder due to so many more kids need to contribute in football. Just looking for positives man...
 

dpodoll68 said:
Your math is off.

Of those 7:

3 are still on the team (Gray, Cooper, and Green)
2 graduated (Simmons, Pittman)
1 was an idiot and got kicked off the team (Maresh)
1 never qualified and never made it to campus (Hill)

Having 4 out of 7 make meaningful contributions is a pretty decent return rate, in my opinion. You can't blame Brewster for Green's chronic injuries and Maresh being an idiot.
Your overall point is correct, though. Recruiting is largely a crapshoot and there's no sense gnashing one's teeth over a particular class until at least 3 or 4 years later.
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I agree 100%. The same people that rip Brewster for recruiting questionable athletes (Maresh) are the same that would rip him if Maresh left the state and played for another school.
 

I would like to see them target d-linemen like they have with the o-line the last 2 years.
 





dpodoll68 said:
Your math is off.

Of those 7:

3 are still on the team (Gray, Cooper, and Green)
2 graduated (Simmons, Pittman)
1 was an idiot and got kicked off the team (Maresh)
1 never qualified and never made it to campus (Hill)

Having 4 out of 7 make meaningful contributions is a pretty decent return rate, in my opinion. You can't blame Brewster for Green's chronic injuries and Maresh being an idiot.

Your overall point is correct, though. Recruiting is largely a crapshoot and there's no sense gnashing one's teeth over a particular class until at least 3 or 4 years later.
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It is 3 years later, so now is a fair time to take inventory. Would people still rank the 2008 class as #3 in the B10 today?

I still contend there are only 3 of 7 from the 4-stars who made a significant contribution. Gray, Cooper & Simmons played. Green hasn't done a thing, probably never will. Pittman did little. Who is the 4th?
 

WHB Brewer said:
It is 3 years later, so now is a fair time to take inventory. Would people still rank the 2008 class as #3 in the B10 today?

I still contend there are only 3 of 7 from the 4-stars who made a significant contribution. Gray, Cooper & Simmons played. Green hasn't done a thing, probably never will. Pittman did little. Who is the 4th?
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It seems like your argument is that recruiting rankings don't matter and I completely disagree. They certainly aren't everything, but this is still a pretty solid class. It's been a bit messed up through attrition, but like I said, it is probably still one of our better classes in a long time.

Gone but did well:
Simoni Lawrence
Traye Simmons was alright (he's in the NFL)
Tremaine Brock - - he was just Ok simply because he only played 1 season.

This class also included:
Dajon McKnight
MarQuis Gray
Gary Tinsley
K. Cooper
E. Lair
J. Edwards
B. Kirksey
D. Eskridge
T. Stoudermire
S. Reeves
B. Green

This is a class that has a handful of guys who would have had fantastic Big 10 careers if they would have been allowed to RS (McKnight, Tinsley, Kirksey, Edwards, Stoudermire) and will still have pretty solid careers.

Then we have a few talented guys who will be JRs and they certainly could show something (Gray, Reeve, Green).

My point isn't to say this was one of the best classes in the country, but it's that this class was one of our better classes we've had in a long time. When all of these guys' careers are over, I think it will become abundantly clear that the problem with our program isn't THIS class.
 



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