CDH's Harden....

Donate To GopherHole
B

Bob_Loblaw

Well-known member
Joined
Oct 23, 2009
Messages
21,108
Reaction score
16,977
Points
113
http://gopherhole.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1259


As some of you probably have noticed, I am partial to Cretin but this kid is the real deal. I expect him to be a 4 star quality of player (ESPN 150) at least. I don't think he will be recruited as heavily as Henderson, but I would probably rank him just as high as Michael Floyd.

He is an enormous talent and one of the hardest workers on that CDH team. I really hope we can build some excitement around our program so Kill can land this kid but he will be recruiting against the big dogs.
 

This is the first thing that i have read about this kid, but i love reading about the hard working part. Sign him up. I love watching the lunchpail guys.
 

Yeah, he would be a huge get for any team. He's just a protypical nasty NT who is actually pretty athletic. If you watched the Prep Bowl two seasons ago (Cretin and EP), you probably would have noticed this kid. He was only a Soph at the time, but I thought he was the 2nd best player on the field.
 

Harden looks like he would be a solid addition. Hopefully, Kill can sway him to the U.

Does anybody know what kind of year that Karmichael Dunbar had? I know he was another pretty highly regarded DL prospect for next year.
 

Wow! Reading that interview depressed me. Iowa. Wisconsin. Nebraska. No mention of the hometown squad.

These are the kids we simply have to get interested in our program. He sounds like the kind of kid who could be a contributor from day one and his addition to the program would speak volumes to other talented kids in the state.
 



It's not like NT grow on trees so it'd be great to keep him. At least he came to the Gophers 3 day camp, but it does worry me that he's already talking about Iowa and Wisky.
 

Big bodied kid with some athleticism. Has to be a definite recruiting target.
I will say he's closer to 5'10 than 6'0, but he's strong as an ox.
I've seen him throw the shotput, and that's literally what he did, just wound up and semi putted, semi threw the shot 45' last year.
He was disruptive in the games I saw him play this year, a similar style to our own Jewan Edwards, a surprisingly quick penetrating DT with a NT run stuffer body.
If Kill is indeed looking to set up an attacking Miami style D, this kid would fit the DT role nicely, his game is like a mini Damione Lewis.
 

dpodoll68 said:
He actually did mention the Gophers' 3-day camp.

But as far as getting this kid? Yeah...not going to happen, unfortunately.
Click to expand...

I guess my speed reading isn't what it used to be (or perhaps it never was :D).

How has Wisconsin done at CDH? The last kid they got (at least to my recollection) was Shaffer and he's now at St. Thomas. Before that, it was Royston and he didn't last in Madison either. It all gets foggy before that, although I remember that one of the Rosga brothers played there.

Iowa on the other hand has had both Binns and Eubanks in recent years.

Am I missing anyone?
 



Does anyone have a helicopter Kill can barrow to get over to CDH :)

This would be a great get to start off Kill in 2012.
 

50PoundHead said:
I guess my speed reading isn't what it used to be (or perhaps it never was :D).

How has Wisconsin done at CDH? The last kid they got (at least to my recollection) was Shaffer and he's now at St. Thomas. Before that, it was Royston and he didn't last in Madison either. It all gets foggy before that, although I remember that one of the Rosga brothers played there.

Iowa on the other hand has had both Binns and Eubanks in recent years.

Am I missing anyone?
Click to expand...

Carl McCullough was a RB in the Early 90's from CDH
 

top recruits from CDH typically don't stay in MN, we aren't getting him and don't blame Coach Kill it isn't going to be his fault.
 

SDGopherFan said:
top recruits from CDH typically don't stay in MN, we aren't getting him and don't blame Coach Kill it isn't going to be his fault.
Click to expand...

Is there a reason for this? Over the weekend there was that long thread about how much Hutch hates the U. Is it something similar, or is it more because Cretin's top players have more options?
 



gophergrad said:
Is there a reason for this? Over the weekend there was that long thread about how much Hutch hates the U. Is it something similar, or is it more because Cretin's top players have more options?
Click to expand...

I think Kill will Kill any issues with Hutch. CDH just has a long tradition of players going to the "Big Time" school. This will take time and winning by our favorite team.
 


50PoundHead said:
I guess my speed reading isn't what it used to be (or perhaps it never was :D).

How has Wisconsin done at CDH? The last kid they got (at least to my recollection) was Shaffer and he's now at St. Thomas. Before that, it was Royston and he didn't last in Madison either. It all gets foggy before that, although I remember that one of the Rosga brothers played there.

Iowa on the other hand has had both Binns and Eubanks in recent years.

Am I missing anyone?
Click to expand...

If it ends up just being us, IA, and WI, we have a good chance. I think his recruitment will most likely include several helmet schools, which is why we have no shot.

Just for fun, I looked at Rivals to see in-state HS recruits that had offers from at least one helmet school. Results below:

2010 S. Henderson - Miami
2010 B. Allen - Wisconsin
2010 T. Okuyemi - Nebraska
2009 B. McNeal - Clemson
2009 R. Hageman - Minnesota
2008 M. Floyd - Notre Dame
2008 W. Mobley - Ohio St.
2008 S. Maresh - Minnesota
2006 M. Carufel - Notre Dame
2006 J. McMichael - Boston College
2005/06 W. Ashley - USC
2005 R. Eubanks - Iowa
2005 J. Hiben - Notre Dame
2005 R. Rock - Iowa St.
2005 J. Laurinaitis - Ohio St.
2005 L. Murtha - Nebraska
2004 N. Swift - Nebraska (no Gopher offer)
2004 J. Arlich - Stanford
2003 T. Laws - Notre Dame
2003 R. Harris - Notre Dame
2003 J. Carlson - Notre Dame
2002 D. Byrd - USC (no Gopher offer)
2002 M. Freeman - Notre Dame
2002 M. Spaeth - Minnesota

So, over the last 10 recruiting cycles, we are 3-for-24 when the helmet schools get involved, or 3-for-22 in cases where the Gophers offered. Not a good batting average either way. Note how many CDH players are on this list - and this isn't even including all who went to either WI or IA.
 

dpodoll68 said:
If it ends up just being us, IA, and WI, we have a good chance. I think his recruitment will most likely include several helmet schools, which is why we have no shot.

Just for fun, I looked at Rivals to see in-state HS recruits that had offers from at least one helmet school. Results below:

2010 S. Henderson - Miami
2010 B. Allen - Wisconsin
2010 T. Okuyemi - Nebraska
2009 B. McNeal - Clemson
2009 R. Hageman - Minnesota
2008 M. Floyd - Notre Dame
2008 W. Mobley - Ohio St.
2008 S. Maresh - Minnesota
2006 M. Carufel - Notre Dame
2006 J. McMichael - Boston College
2005/06 W. Ashley - USC
2005 R. Eubanks - Iowa
2005 J. Hiben - Notre Dame
2005 R. Rock - Iowa St.
2005 J. Laurinaitis - Ohio St.
2005 L. Murtha - Nebraska
2004 N. Swift - Nebraska (no Gopher offer)
2004 J. Arlich - Stanford
2003 T. Laws - Notre Dame
2003 R. Harris - Notre Dame
2003 J. Carlson - Notre Dame
2002 D. Byrd - USC (no Gopher offer)
2002 M. Freeman - Notre Dame
2002 M. Spaeth - Minnesota

So, over the last 10 recruiting cycles, we are 3-for-24 when the helmet schools get involved, or 3-for-22 in cases where the Gophers offered. Not a good batting average either way. Note how many CDH players are on this list - and this isn't even including all who went to either WI or IA.
Click to expand...

Your list is inaccurate. What about Edwards, Gjere, Alipate, and Garin? Brewster did a lot better job then Mason did. I'm guessing you are missing some other guys though, Jacobs probably had some offers off the top of my head.
 

btowngopher said:
Your list is inaccurate. What about Edwards, Gjere, Alipate, and Garin? Brewster did a lot better job then Mason did. I'm guessing you are missing some other guys though, Jacobs probably had some offers off the top of my head.
Click to expand...

No, it isn't. None of those players had offers from any helmet schools.
 


There used to be a bad relationship between the U and CDH when Mason was the coach, but that is pretty much gone. Since Brewster took over, we didn't lose a kid in the state's top 5 recruits to Iowa or Wisconsin. Binns and Schafer went to our rivals (from Cretin) but both of those guys being recruited by Sconny and Iowa before Brewster really had a chance.

Cretin kid's always have a natural affiliation towards Catholic schools (even the "normal" kids go to St. Thomas and St. Johns more than the U or UMD), so when Notre Dame comes calling, they will be a definite player.

You can't blame Kill for losing any single player, whether that player is from the burbs (Beau Allen) or a Cretin kid. It's about recruiting MN well, generally. I have no idea if Harden would consider the U, but I do know that there isn't some Cretin connection that doesn't like the U (like Hutch, supposedly). There used to be.
 

btowngopher said:
What are your helmet schools?
Click to expand...

In alphabetical order:

Alabama
Florida
Florida St.
LSU
Miami (FL)
Michigan
Nebraska
Notre Dame
Ohio St.
Oklahoma
Penn St.
Texas
USC

There are others I could listen to (Georgia, Tennessee, soon Oregon) but these are the only no-brainers.
 

I see that I missed Beau Allen going to Wisconsin just last year.

Forgot about Carl McCullough as well, but that was awhile back.
 


dpodoll68 said:
In alphabetical order:

Alabama
Florida
Florida St.
LSU
Miami (FL)
Michigan
Nebraska
Notre Dame
Ohio St.
Oklahoma
Penn St.
Texas
USC

There are others I could listen to (Georgia, Tennessee, soon Oregon) but these are the only no-brainers.
Click to expand...

I thought Gjere had an offer from Ohio State?
 



You must log in or register to reply here.



Top Bottom