CBS: How to fix the dumbest rule in college football

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College football is a wonderful sport, but it's far from perfect. In fact, the further you get away from the field and the game itself, the slimier everything seems to feel. This is a sport that produces millions upon millions of dollars in revenue every year all around the country, yet the the people directly responsible for the product so many willingly pay money to enjoy -- the players -- barely see any of it.

So, you know, there are some ethical and logical flaws in the sport.

I'm not here to talk about that today, however. I'd like to keep our eyes on the actual field right now and some of the rules of the game we see impact it just about every week. Now, there are a few rules in college football that I am not a fan of, and I make no effort to try to hide these feelings.

I hate pass interference. It's too open to interpretation, and given how often we see referees blowing calls, I don't want to put more on their plate than we have to. I believe you could get rid of the concept of pass interference, continue calling defensive holding or illegal contact -- violations with much clearer definitions -- and not much would really change in how the game looks. So what if the receiver and defensive back make some involuntary contact down the field? It's football, and I'm tired of seeing quarterbacks rewarded for bad throws. How many times do we need to see a receiver stop or come back due to an underthrown ball, initiating contact with a defender and then having the flag thrown on the defender? We're giving the offense 15 yards and a first down because the quarterback screwed up.

Then there's the targeting rule, which, honestly, do you know what targeting actually is? It's clear the refs don't because the definition seems to change on a hit-by-hit basis. Targeting is a rule with an intention that is good and pure -- keeping players safe is a great! -- but when actually put in practice, it generally only makes things worse. Like pass interference, it's something that is left to the interpretation of the official, and the official's job is hard enough. I'm not sure what the solution here is exactly, but the targeting rules as currently practiced need to be reworked.

Pass interference and targeting are just two examples of rules I do not like. But they are far from the worst college football has to offer. That would be the dumbest rule in this wonderful sport, one we see affect games far too often.

http://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...-to-fix-the-dumbest-rule-in-college-football/

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That article takes FOREVER to get to the damn point.

I like the fumble through the end zone rule. If you're going to score a TD... do it. If you fail and fumble, it should cost you a lot.
 

The guy makes good points on the interference rule and probably should have stopped writing at that point.

Targeting rule will evolve and make the game more safe. Players just need to change target and play the ball.

His fumble rule is just dumb.


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What ever happened to "spearing" as a rule? Did that go away? It seems to me targeting is really about "defenseless players" (e.g. wide receiver in the process of catching or quarterback). What about the other 150 tackles per game, most of which include a helmet-to-player tackle?

The helmet hit is part of football tough-guy culture I guess. You don't see YouTube compilations and NFL Films videos titled "Greatest Form Tackles"...

Rambling...
 

Not sure I would consider that the dumbest rule in football by any stretch of the imagination and certainly not something that needs to be changed.
 


The one rule I would like to see changed is spotting the ball after a run or completed pass. Spot the ball where it is when the whistle blows to stop the play. Forget this b.s. about forward momentum. Spot the ball at the point when the whistle blows to stop the play. I (and you ) have seen QB getting sacked 6/7 yards behind the line of scrimmage but the ball is spotted 3/4 yards forward because that's where initial contact started. Again spot the ball at the point where the final whistle stops the play. Same on completed passes. We have all seen receivers give ground after the catch and then tackled behind that spot. The ball is spotted forward from the final whistle. I quit counting Saturday at the Gopher game at 7 - not all favorable to the Gophers - wher the ball was not spotted correctly, at least in my eyes.
 

The one rule I would like to see changed is spotting the ball after a run or completed pass. Spot the ball where it is when the whistle blows to stop the play. Forget this b.s. about forward momentum. Spot the ball at the point when the whistle blows to stop the play. I (and you ) have seen QB getting sacked 6/7 yards behind the line of scrimmage but the ball is spotted 3/4 yards forward because that's where initial contact started. Again spot the ball at the point where the final whistle stops the play. Same on completed passes. We have all seen receivers give ground after the catch and then tackled behind that spot. The ball is spotted forward from the final whistle. I quit counting Saturday at the Gopher game at 7 - not all favorable to the Gophers - wher the ball was not spotted correctly, at least in my eyes.
That rule has been around many years to protect players from getting piled on. Your idea would work if the refs blew their whistles immediately when the tackles started, but they don't know if a tackle will be broken. I am OK with the rule but I do think they could blow the whistle a little quicker.

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The one rule I would like to see changed is spotting the ball after a run or completed pass. Spot the ball where it is when the whistle blows to stop the play. Forget this b.s. about forward momentum. Spot the ball at the point when the whistle blows to stop the play. I (and you ) have seen QB getting sacked 6/7 yards behind the line of scrimmage but the ball is spotted 3/4 yards forward because that's where initial contact started. Again spot the ball at the point where the final whistle stops the play. Same on completed passes. We have all seen receivers give ground after the catch and then tackled behind that spot. The ball is spotted forward from the final whistle. I quit counting Saturday at the Gopher game at 7 - not all favorable to the Gophers - wher the ball was not spotted correctly, at least in my eyes.

You're assuming that the whistle stops the play. It doesn't. In 2016 the action of the play stops it play. The whistle is just a final confirmation. Players know when the play is over.
 

Nah, the rule is just fine as it is. Most times you see this when an offensive player reaches the ball out trying to score. That should be a risky play. Should have consequences if you fumble.
 



The one rule I would like to see changed is spotting the ball after a run or completed pass. Spot the ball where it is when the whistle blows to stop the play. Forget this b.s. about forward momentum. Spot the ball at the point when the whistle blows to stop the play. I (and you ) have seen QB getting sacked 6/7 yards behind the line of scrimmage but the ball is spotted 3/4 yards forward because that's where initial contact started. Again spot the ball at the point where the final whistle stops the play. Same on completed passes. We have all seen receivers give ground after the catch and then tackled behind that spot. The ball is spotted forward from the final whistle. I quit counting Saturday at the Gopher game at 7 - not all favorable to the Gophers - wher the ball was not spotted correctly, at least in my eyes.

Imagine a RB getting 1 yard from the first down, three defenders essentially pick him up and throw him 4 yards back. Then the whistle blows. Under your rule, it would be 3rd and 5 instead of 3rd and 1. I don't like that at all.
 


All good arguments. Watch this Sat. and see how many times the ball isn't spotted at the point where the final whistle stops the play.
 

Sort of related...

What ever happened to "spearing" as a rule? Did that go away? It seems to me targeting is really about "defenseless players" (e.g. wide receiver in the process of catching or quarterback). What about the other 150 tackles per game, most of which include a helmet-to-player tackle?

The helmet hit is part of football tough-guy culture I guess. You don't see YouTube compilations and NFL Films videos titled "Greatest Form Tackles"...

Rambling...

We ask that every week.
 



I guess I'm in the minority, but I always thought that fumble out of the end zone rule was stupid. It was a horribly written article, but the guy is right.

That's an enormous penalty for the the team with the ball, which has done something to get itself in a position to score. When the ball goes out of bounds on the side of the field, it is returned to the team that had possession before that. I'm not sure why this can't be treated the same, with the ball returning to the spot of the fumble.

You might say changing the rule would penalize the defense, but at least it's more consistent with the fumble out of bounds rule. If you don't want them to score, keep them out of the end zone; don't hope for a lucky bounce.
 

Stop allowing the rugby scrum with all the big lineman pushing the RB forward for eight yards. When he's stopped, he's stopped. It used to be you couldn't "aid the progress of the runner. Likewise when forward progress is stopped, blow the whistle. Don't let six defenders jump on the ball carrier trying to pull the ball out.
 

I guess I'm in the minority, but I always thought that fumble out of the end zone rule was stupid. It was a horribly written article, but the guy is right.

That's an enormous penalty for the the team with the ball, which has done something to get itself in a position to score. When the ball goes out of bounds on the side of the field, it is returned to the team that had possession before that. I'm not sure why this can't be treated the same, with the ball returning to the spot of the fumble.

You might say changing the rule would penalize the defense, but at least it's more consistent with the fumble out of bounds rule. If you don't want them to score, keep them out of the end zone; don't hope for a lucky bounce.

So if the offense fumbles on their own 5 and it goes backwards out of the end zone, the defense should not get two points and the offense should get the ball back at the spot of the fumble? I don't think you can change one and not the other.

Also with your thought process, if the fumbling team recovers the ball in the end zone they should not get six points. They shouldn't be rewarded for fumbling. They should just get the ball at the spot of the fumble.

The end zone is not the field of play so it is treated differently.


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