Bubblicious Tuesday/Championship Week Gets Underway

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Monday Results
#49 Cincinnati loses @ Louisville (Cincy best not slip up vs. USF in regular-season finale)
#69 Baylor loses @ Texas (Bears' disappointing season appears headed for NIT)

Tuesday Slate
#34 Southern Miss @ Marshall (USM the A-1 example of a "RPI tiger")
#44 Boise State @ UNLV (Broncos in great shape if they can steal this one)
#71 Saint John's @ #47 Notre Dame (Irish lock up a bid with a win)
#60 Alabama @ #58 Ole Miss (desperation time in SEC)
Seton Hall @ #79 Providence (if Friars can win out and get to Big East semis. ...)
#80 Arkansas @ Mizzou (Hogs' resume needs quality road win, winning in Columbia would qualify)
Illinois @ #86 Iowa (Hawkeyes are at the absolute point of no return)

Big South (1st Round/Conway, SC)
#5S Winthrop 60, #4N Radford 58 (Radford eliminated)
#3S NC-Asheville vs. #6N Longwood, 1:45 p.m.
#3N Campbell vs. #6S Presbyterian, 5 p.m.
#4S Coastal Carolina vs. #5N Liberty, 7 p.m.

Horizon (1st Round)
#7 Loyola-Chicago @ #6 Youngstown State, 6:05 p.m.
#9 Milwaukee @ #4 Green Bay, 7 p.m.
#8 Cleveland State @ #5 UIC, 7 p.m.
 

How much does an Illini loss hurt them? That puts them at 8-9 heading into Ohio State, which I give them virtually no chance at winning, and an 8-10 record. Does their Gonzaga win carry them in like our Louisville win a few years ago?
 

Illinois is in. ... wins over Butler, Gonzaga, Indiana, Minnesota, and Ohio State will be more than enough.

Each year the bubble is a little different, but am confident in saying Illinois' resume this year is much stronger than the Gophers' was the year we beat Louisville. The Gophers got in that year largely because they beat Louisville and swept Wisconsin.
 

Let them go in at 8-10 then and not us!
 

We're both in. The only question now is whether the Big Ten gets 7 or 8 (Iowa?) bids.
 


Is it just me or is the conference season meaningless? I've always felt that the conference season winner should get the bid. Why allow a lesser team to get hot for 2-3 days in the tournament, especially if one team has dominated the regular season as some of teams have done this year(Davidson. L Tech, Norfolk St) and clearly demonstrated that they are the leagues best team. As a conference don't you want to send you best team? Just my 2 cents.
 

whogoofed said:
Is it just me or is the conference season meaningless? I've always felt that the conference season winner should get the bid. Why allow a lesser team to get hot for 2-3 days in the tournament, especially if one team has dominated the regular season as some of teams have done this year(Davidson. L Tech, Norfolk St) and clearly demonstrated that they are the leagues best team. As a conference don't you want to send you best team? Just my 2 cents.
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If I were a coach, I'd totally agree with this. I imagine coaches/teams in this situation absolutely hate the conference tournaments. But from a fan's perspective, I love the conference tourneys. They're just fun to watch.

I do like that many of the low end conferences give the #1 seed advantages like a bye and having the tourney played on their home floor. That definitely is an advantage for those teams.

For the conferences that rarely/never receive an at-large bid, I wonder what the percentage is of each seed winning the conference tourney? If I have time, I might at least look back at last year.
 

whogoofed said:
Is it just me or is the conference season meaningless? I've always felt that the conference season winner should get the bid. Why allow a lesser team to get hot for 2-3 days in the tournament, especially if one team has dominated the regular season as some of teams have done this year(Davidson. L Tech, Norfolk St) and clearly demonstrated that they are the leagues best team. As a conference don't you want to send you best team? Just my 2 cents.
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Agree, the regular-season champion is much more of a true champion. However, each conference gets to decide how to dole out their automatic bid. Every conference save for one (Ivy League) has chosen the tournament champion.
 

So just for the hell of it, I looked back at the seeds of the conference tournament championships in those conferences that your only shot of making the tourney is by winning the conference tourney.

In 2012:
- 8 were #1 seeds
- 7 were #2 seeds
- 3 were #3 seeds
- 1 was a #7 seed

Not a lot of big upsets last year.

In 2011 however:
- 4 were #1 seeds
- 7 were #2 seeds
- 1 was a #3 seed
- 3 were #4 seeds
- 4 were #5, 6, 7 or 8 seeds

Not sure if 2011 was just an extreme year or of that is more of the norm.
 



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