BTN's Dienhart: Kill has Minnesota looking at a bright future

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Listen up until the end.

"I think this is a favorite in the West division."

Favorite? Probably not. Contender? Absolutely.
 

Ummm.......why is Dienhart taking shots at Pitino? Can't give any credit without knocking someone else down?
 

stocker08 said:
Ummm.......why is Dienhart taking shots at Pitino? Can't give any credit without knocking someone else down?
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I noticed that too and assumed it was a shot at Pitino, which was way out of left field and completely unnecessary. It was a good, positive article for the U and the football program, but that did bring it down a bit.
 

Don't think that was a shot at Pittino at all. Football is full of Father/Son Coaches. Buddy Ryan - Rex & Rob; Bum Philips-Wade Phillips; Don Shula - Dave & Mike; Bobby Bowden - Tommy, Jeff & Terry; Jack Harbaugh- Jim & John etc. All with a wide variance of success.

Dienhart was just saying that Kill got there on his own.

"Kill isn’t the son of a famous coach. Kill never was a hot-shot coordinator at a major program. But Kill is as good of a coach as you’ll find."
 


Iceland12 said:
Don't think that was a shot at Pittino at all. Football is full of Father/Son Coaches. Buddy Ryan - Rex & Rob; Bum Philips-Wade Phillips; Don Shula - Dave & Mike; Bobby Bowden - Tommy, Jeff & Terry; Jack Harbaugh- Jim & John etc. All with a wide variance of success.

Dienhart was just saying that Kill got there on his own.

"Kill isn’t the son of a famous coach. Kill never was a hot-shot coordinator at a major program. But Kill is as good of a coach as you’ll find."
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Agreed.
 

More like a shot at Lane Kiffin. The most undeserving head coach of all time.
 

I don't think that was a Pitino jab. A lot of coaches get to where they are because of their dad. Not only with opportunities but with the knowledge they inherit.

The article just says Kill didn't benefit from that.
 

Not offended by what Dienhart said at all. Let's face it, Pitino's last name helped him get the job, but being his father's son never stopped him from working his butt off pre-Minnesota and post-Minnesota & establishing he's his own man.
 



If Rico isn't able to deal with the notion that he is favored because of his name by now, he has bigger problems than Tom D. I think Rico is just fine making $2 mil plus per year as the youngest HC in the best BB conference in the NCAA.
 

SelectionSunday said:
Not offended by what Dienhart said at all. Let's face it, Pitino's last name helped him get the job, but being his father's son never stopped him from working his butt off pre-Minnesota and post-Minnesota & establishing he's his own man.
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Dienhart was not making a reference to Pitino, not sure how anyone reading the article would think that.
 

Except last year he made a comment in a Kill article like "He didn't get the job just because of his last name..."
 




GopherinPhilly said:
If Rico isn't able to deal with the notion that he is favored because of his name by now, he has bigger problems than Tom D. I think Rico is just fine making $2 mil plus per year as the youngest HC in the best BB conference in the NCAA.
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Pitino doesn't make $2 mil, let alone $2 mil plus.
 

It's a reference to Lane Kiffin people.
 





This

"The Wolverines needed to win this game to offer hope and signal change. Instead, they got blasted."
 

Iceland12 said:
Don't think that was a shot at Pittino at all. Football is full of Father/Son Coaches. Buddy Ryan - Rex & Rob; Bum Philips-Wade Phillips; Don Shula - Dave & Mike; Bobby Bowden - Tommy, Jeff & Terry; Jack Harbaugh- Jim & John etc. All with a wide variance of success.

Dienhart was just saying that Kill got there on his own.

"Kill isn’t the son of a famous coach. Kill never was a hot-shot coordinator at a major program. But Kill is as good of a coach as you’ll find."
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Maybe.....maybe not. How many of those coaches are active? Sure.....the name factors in. I'm just looking at this thinking........he pretty much described Pitino. He knew it when he wrote it. Why couldn't he credit Kill based upon his coaching career? Plenty of coaches have no family members in the coaching ranks. Just seems weird to bring up. It's not like Kill came out of nowhere.

DMB123 said:
Dienhart was not making a reference to Pitino, not sure how anyone reading the article would think that.
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Thanks for the update.....Miss Celo.
 

stocker08 said:
Maybe.....maybe not. How many of those coaches are active? Sure.....the name factors in. I'm just looking at this thinking........he pretty much described Pitino. He knew it when he wrote it. Why couldn't he credit Kill based upon his coaching career? Plenty of coaches have no family members in the coaching ranks. Just seems weird to bring up. It's not like Kill came out of nowhere.



Thanks for the update.....Miss Celo.
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I think what he was getting at is that there are lots of reasons people have an easier climb to the big time than coaches like Kill did. He pointed out some people have an in because of family connections/name recognition, and some people are coordinators/assistants under successful head coaches. In Kill's case, he had a lot more head coaching stops than most, some of which were at places where even reasonably well-informed college football fans couldn't tell you the team nickname. I didn't take it as a shot at Pitino.

On a bit of a tangent, I think if they are going to insist on piping in stadium music at the expense of the marching band, they should make "Its a long way to the top if you wanna rock n roll" by AC/DC our unofficial rock anthem. It fits in well with both Kill's trip to where he is, and our brick by brick mentality.
 

He's not referring to one person in particular. He's making note of how Kill has been a coach at every level and doesn't come from a coaching family. Their are many coaches that have their sons on their staffs. Kill is basically self made and has taken some tough jobs.
 

bleedsmaroonandgold said:
I think what he was getting at is that there are lots of reasons people have an easier climb to the big time than coaches like Kill did. He pointed out some people have an in because of family connections/name recognition, and some people are coordinators/assistants under successful head coaches. In Kill's case, he had a lot more head coaching stops than most, some of which were at places where even reasonably well-informed college football fans couldn't tell you the team nickname. I didn't take it as a shot at Pitino.

On a bit of a tangent, I think if they are going to insist on piping in stadium music at the expense of the marching band, they should make "Its a long way to the top if you wanna rock n roll" by AC/DC our unofficial rock anthem. It fits in well with both Kill's trip to where he is, and our brick by brick mentality.
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Tough to say. Just think that it is odd timing for Dienhart to bring up family connections considering that Pitino is a new hire. Has he ever brought this up for any other coaches?
 

stocker08 said:
Tough to say. Just think that it is odd timing for Dienhart to bring up family connections considering that Pitino is a new hire. Has he ever brought this up for any other coaches?
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Jesus ****ing Christ, get over it.
 

stocker08 said:
Tough to say. Just think that it is odd timing for Dienhart to bring up family connections considering that Pitino is a new hire. Has he ever brought this up for any other coaches?
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It's a football article.
 



bleedsmaroonandgold said:
I really liked the article. Except the part where Kill was compared to Bo Ryan. Yuck.
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They both have similar paths to their current job though. Both were head coaches in HS, and then moved up the ranks in college starting with the small college level.

Or as afurry91 said, it may have to do with them looking like their mascot. When did Wisconsin change their mascot to the Grinches?
 

It's a fun read, especially if you are the type that likes to get your hopes up, but it strikes me as extremely premature. Just a few weeks ago, the Gophers had lost their last four games to BCS programs, including a very poor showing at TCU. It would have been fair to write the exact opposite type of article after the TCU game. I hope Diehart's right, but a larger sample size is needed. I didn't see any shot at Pitino at all as Diehart was trying to make a point that Kill had to go through multiple levels of college football and face varying challenges to get to a BCS job. Diehart was arguing that a background dealing with different challenges (talent, facilities, recruiting, whatever) and not being handed an opportunity at a higher level without first succeeding at a lower level, makes Kill somewhat unique in this era of college football where most hires at BCS schools are guys who have worked at a school with the best of everything. What I do find interesting is that Brady Hoke proved himself at two levels of D-1 football and should then possess a lot of the same qualities that Diehart argues will make Kill a success.
 

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