Brewster Has Moments of Brilliance and Appears In Over His Head

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I don't know how it's going to end, but I've been calling for signs of hope, and the Coach's past two recruiting classes stepped up and delivered- especially at the skills positions. All of the receivers, Gray, and Carter look like they have cornerstone potential for the next 3 seasons and only big time playmakers can deliver a W when you play that sloppy. Man, Stoudemire is the most electric Rivals 3* 5.5 rated underclassman in the nation, so he can find players too.

That said, I saw man 17 penalties, personal fouls, sideline chaos, and a coach more worried about arguing with refs than bringing the players into fold. It appears to me that we have a recruiter, not a coach at the helm. Time will tell if that is a winning formula. I do sometimes wonder what a Ferentz would be able to do with the players Brewster is collecting.
 

Everyone who has been on this board for awhile knows Brew is the best recruiter GN has seen since Warmath, but is a work in progress as HC. Re HCing progress, we'll all know more after the Iowa game.

Till then, I'm with his boss Joel M: patience.
 

If he starts being a better coach he could potentially be Tressel status because he has already proven to be able to sell fire in hell, imagine if his teams start backing up his mouth, he'll be dangerous and his recruiting will be unstoppable.......
 

I don't see any "brilliance." But I sometimes do see that Brewster has gone all-in with his job and players.

We could've lost last night, and that would've stunk. Let's win next week.
 



Re: The Last Play

Can anyone explaine to me why they would hand off to a RB and risk a fumble on the last play? (after they had already fumbled a QB/RB exchange). Why didn't we just kneel?

Could you imagine if we fumble and MSU somehow tied it up. Brew may have well resigned on the spot.
 

Stud...thing is...with reasonable penalty discipline the Gs could have won by 21 and Brew would probably be fielding "brilliant" HCing accolades.
 

akgopher said:
I do sometimes wonder what a Ferentz would be able to do with the players Brewster is collecting.
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Seems to me Ferentz with a top 5 undefeated team does alright with his own players.

BTW - the compliment I gave you for your post in the other thread...I take back.
 

Anyone see Dantonio's post game press conference? He went out of his way, twice, to say that he had been out-coached.
 



Tough for any coach to admit that he was outcoached...so I doubt that he was just blowin smoke...after all, the game was over so I took it as a reasonably sincere statement. In any case, Mr. D's a classy guy.
 

Schnauzer said:
Anyone see Dantonio's post game press conference? He went out of his way, twice, to say that he had been out-coached.
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I sat in section 203 and that's what the guy behind me said too. He said this not out of a great understanding of the game, but because he was pi$$ed his team was losing.
 

In my opinion one of the most inaccurate cliche's in sport is that penalties are a reflection of coaching or even discipline. A holding penalty is usually caused by a player being overmatched, and late hits are just a player losing track of his position on the field or the refs wanting to exert their will on the game. Brew may or may not be a good coach, but I don't believe penalties are the signifier. A head coach in college's main job is recruiting and Brewster seems to be doing a pretty good job
 

NewEngland_Gold said:
Stud...thing is...with reasonable penalty discipline the Gs could have won by 21 and Brew would probably be fielding "brilliant" HCing accolades.
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Maybe us being penalized so much had something to do with the sudden offensive output. After all, only two BCS champions since 2000 have finished with fewer penalties per game than we are currently averaging.

09 Gophers - 7.22

08 Florida - 7.29
07 LSU - 8.36
06 Florida - 8.29
05 Texas - 7.62
04 USC - 5.62
03 LSU - 7.29
02 OSU - 5.43
01 Miami - 9.91
00 Oklahoma - 7.67
 



Plinnius said:
Maybe us being penalized so much had something to do with the sudden offensive output. After all, only two BCS champions since 2000 have finished with fewer penalties per game than we are currently averaging.

09 Gophers - 7.22

08 Florida - 7.29
07 LSU - 8.36
06 Florida - 8.29
05 Texas - 7.62
04 USC - 5.62
03 LSU - 7.29
02 OSU - 5.43
01 Miami - 9.91
00 Oklahoma - 7.67
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Very interesting. Gonna have to mull that one over. Huh...
 

And Texas is currently averaging 7.38 penalties per game this season. They appear to be a near lock to appear in the championship game at this point.
 

Plinnius said:
Maybe us being penalized so much had something to do with the sudden offensive output. After all, only two BCS champions since 2000 have finished with fewer penalties per game than we are currently averaging.

09 Gophers - 7.22

08 Florida - 7.29
07 LSU - 8.36
06 Florida - 8.29
05 Texas - 7.62
04 USC - 5.62
03 LSU - 7.29
02 OSU - 5.43
01 Miami - 9.91
00 Oklahoma - 7.67
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Plinnius, that really isn't fair to use logic and facts during GopherHole post game discussions rather than emotion and dubious assumptions.
 

I don't think Dantonio was prepared for the passing game post Decker. Honestly I don't think very many people were prepared to see it do as well as it did last night.
 

Plinnius said:
Maybe us being penalized so much had something to do with the sudden offensive output. After all, only two BCS champions since 2000 have finished with fewer penalties per game than we are currently averaging.

09 Gophers - 7.22

08 Florida - 7.29
07 LSU - 8.36
06 Florida - 8.29
05 Texas - 7.62
04 USC - 5.62
03 LSU - 7.29
02 OSU - 5.43
01 Miami - 9.91
00 Oklahoma - 7.67
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UpnorthGo4 said:
Plinnius, that really isn't fair to use logic and facts during GopherHole post game discussions rather than emotion and dubious assumptions.
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Very interesting. I suspected as much when I was looking at the NCAA stats--let's terminate this string of posts now. Good night eveyone, have a safe trip home.
 


I agree that Brewster is a HC in progress. Fortunately, progress is being made.

With that said, does anyone else think that on the sideline Brewster has a deer in the headlights look about him? His looks vary from looking like he is going to break out in tears to oh my god what is going on. I would hate to come to the sidelines as a player and see my HC with his general appearance.

But, maybe its just me. I only get to see him on TV these days.
 

I am starting to think that Brewster is a very good head coach. We lose the best receiver in MN history and yet we still come out and beat an extremely tough MSU team. On top of that we did it despite a record number of penalties against. One noticeable change that I have seen with Brewster's teams is that they do not give up and they think they can win the game (sans OSU and PSU). I just felt while I watched the guys on the field last night that they knew they were the better team and that they were not going to lose. That is confidence that starts from the coaches and works its way down. Don't get me wrong, there is room for improvement (there always is) but I see things in Brewster and this team that keep me extremely optimistic.
 

GopherinPhilly said:
Seems to me Ferentz with a top 5 undefeated team does alright with his own players.

BTW - the compliment I gave you for your post in the other thread...I take back.
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Ferentz, in my opinion, is the best college coach in the country. He's likely the first NCAA coach to be mentioned for NFL openings and gets it done in Iowa City.
 

Sumtimegophs said:
I agree that Brewster is a HC in progress. Fortunately, progress is being made.

With that said, does anyone else think that on the sideline Brewster has a deer in the headlights look about him? His looks vary from looking like he is going to break out in tears to oh my god what is going on. I would hate to come to the sidelines as a player and see my HC with his general appearance.

But, maybe its just me. I only get to see him on TV these days.
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I played college baseball which is a lot different then the football mentality. my coach wore his heart on his sleeve and cared only about "his kids!" he never called us out publicly and when he thought we were treated unfairly he was a bit out of control! I loved this as a player, whether he was right or wrong he always had our backs, I never once thought he was a "deer in headlights" etc, but I knew I loved playing for him. like I said I know there is a difference between baseball and football...but I think brews players love him the way my teammates loved our coach.

all of you who are so concerned about brew being the next joe paterno in year 2 & 1/2, relax and have some patience...we have been an average program for 40 years, and all a sudden we expect greatness! unbelievable!
 

lakesgopher said:
I played college baseball which is a lot different then the football mentality. my coach wore his heart on his sleeve and cared only about "his kids!" he never called us out publicly and when he thought we were treated unfairly he was a bit out of control! I loved this as a player, whether he was right or wrong he always had our backs, I never once thought he was a "deer in headlights" etc, but I knew I loved playing for him. like I said I know there is a difference between baseball and football...but I think brews players love him the way my teammates loved our coach.

all of you who are so concerned about brew being the next joe paterno in year 2 & 1/2, relax and have some patience...we have been an average program for 40 years, and all a sudden we expect greatness! unbelievable!
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I played college basketball for the same kind of coach. Every player on the team would run through walls for him. There are downsides to a someone that coaches with emotion, but at the same time it can be a big winner with players.
 

Seriously, stop with the "penalties is all the coaches' fault crap", you guys. Coaches have little to do with it, and really, what control, in the end, do they really hold for the players not accepting their OWN responsibilities. The coaches are not out there on the field. The coaches ARE putting Gophers players in great positions to make plays this year (except on 3rd-and-long defense). The breakdowns this year have been more player execution than coaching, and I'm not sure in my couple+ decades as a big Gopher fan have I ever seen better gameplanning as a whole. The players are just making mistakes - what should the coaches do to correct this? No one seems to ever answer that question.

I captain a few different adult sports teams, but all I can do to stop my teammates them from making dumb mistakes is to try to tell them what they are doing wrong. I still need my best players to play well, mistakes or not. If I told them to entirely change how they play, they wouldn't be nearly as effective (!). If I yelled at them, they'd probably make a higher percentage of mistakes. I need them to play intelligently, confidently, and aggressively. I couldn't get that kind of play out of my teammates by criticizing their every mistake. The only thing I will do is sit a person if they are in a run of mistakes. My teammates do very well each and every time out; while I see other teams with as much or more talent fall apart week after week.

Do you guys want a polite, Indiana or Iowa State-type team that gets smacked around more often than they win? Or do you want an aggressive team that makes some mistakes but also makes some big plays and plays with emotion and competitiveness? I'll take the latter.
 

NewEngland_Gold said:
Tough for any coach to admit that he was outcoached...so I doubt that he was just blowin smoke...after all, the game was over so I took it as a reasonably sincere statement. In any case, Mr. D's a classy guy.
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I saw Dantonio's press conference too, and I gained much respect for him. He took the shoulder of blame for the game, put it on HIS shoulders to take it off of any of his players, and immediately allows the team to move on. The only problem with this move is if he does this too often, his players will stop respecting him. As is, I don't believe that is occurring.

Seems Dantonio is in much the same position as Brewster - somewhat questionable talent inheritance, while building a young team in his mold. I think one or both could be very successful a few years down the road. Dantonio doesn't seem the bumbling guy that Zook seems at Illinois or Wannsted seems at Pitt (though Wannie's team is doing well so far this year, but for the first time with all that much talent).
 

Sumtimegophs said:
I agree that Brewster is a HC in progress. Fortunately, progress is being made.

With that said, does anyone else think that on the sideline Brewster has a deer in the headlights look about him? His looks vary from looking like he is going to break out in tears to oh my god what is going on. I would hate to come to the sidelines as a player and see my HC with his general appearance.

But, maybe its just me. I only get to see him on TV these days.
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Absolutely not. Mason often had that look; you are obviously confusing the two. Brewster looks competitive and determined. The only two times I've seen Brewster have that "lost" look were in the blowouts to Iowa and Ohio State the past two years. Other times, if he's losing he just looks pissed.
 

cncmin said:
Absolutely not. Mason often had that look; you are obviously confusing the two. Brewster looks competitive and determined. The only two times I've seen Brewster have that "lost" look were in the blowouts to Iowa and Ohio State the past two years. Other times, if he's losing he just looks pissed.
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SOOOOO true. I remember a game back in 04 or 05 I suppose. It was at Michigan State, it was raining, and the Gophers were down by a bit (2 scores or less) but certainly not out of it. The cameras panned to Mason on the sideline, and he was standing in the rain, arms folded across his chest, pouty look on his face. His demeanor just absolutely screamed, "I don't want to be here, let's go home." Sure enough, the team rolls over and loses big. That was the moment Mason lost me.

Not exactly the same as looking lost, but a horrible sideline demeanor nonetheless...
 

cncmin said:
Seriously, stop with the "penalties is all the coaches' fault crap", you guys. Coaches have little to do with it, and really, what control, in the end, do they really hold for the players not accepting their OWN responsibilities. The coaches are not out there on the field. The coaches ARE putting Gophers players in great positions to make plays this year (except on 3rd-and-long defense). The breakdowns this year have been more player execution than coaching, and I'm not sure in my couple+ decades as a big Gopher fan have I ever seen better gameplanning as a whole. The players are just making mistakes - what should the coaches do to correct this? No one seems to ever answer that question.

I captain a few different adult sports teams, but all I can do to stop my teammates them from making dumb mistakes is to try to tell them what they are doing wrong. I still need my best players to play well, mistakes or not. If I told them to entirely change how they play, they wouldn't be nearly as effective (!). If I yelled at them, they'd probably make a higher percentage of mistakes. I need them to play intelligently, confidently, and aggressively. I couldn't get that kind of play out of my teammates by criticizing their every mistake. The only thing I will do is sit a person if they are in a run of mistakes. My teammates do very well each and every time out; while I see other teams with as much or more talent fall apart week after week.

Do you guys want a polite, Indiana or Iowa State-type team that gets smacked around more often than they win? Or do you want an aggressive team that makes some mistakes but also makes some big plays and plays with emotion and competitiveness? I'll take the latter.
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Great post. They can't hold their hands out there. Telling players constantly "don't commit penalties" is not going to do it. Sure stuff like taunting can be a reflection on the coach, but that call on Troy was terrible IMO. You see guys don't worse on sacks and TDs.
 

Sumtimegophs said:
I agree that Brewster is a HC in progress. Fortunately, progress is being made.

With that said, does anyone else think that on the sideline Brewster has a deer in the headlights look about him? His looks vary from looking like he is going to break out in tears to oh my god what is going on. I would hate to come to the sidelines as a player and see my HC with his general appearance.

But, maybe its just me. I only get to see him on TV these days.
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Come on, you're analyzing a guy's coaching abilities by the expressions he has during a game? Based on that, Joe Pa should have been fired long ago. Brewster's emotional and I like that; I'd rather have that than Tressel with his clipboard and vest. I agree he's a work in progress, but I think Brewster's headed the right way.
 

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