Breaking down the B1G Schedule (for those still on the bandwagon)

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Before the B1G season started, I felt 12-6 would be a success. This is still very feasible. Through 1/17 every game but one is in the more difficult have of the schedule. I would break it down as follows:

Must wins:

1. Penn State
2. Nebraska (W)
3. Northwestern (W)
4. Iowa (W)

Toss-ups (Running out of mulligans here)

5. @Nebraska
6. @Northwestern (L)
7. Illinois (L)
8. Wisconsin
9. @Iowa
10. Michigan State (W)
11. @Purdue
12. @Illinois (W)
13. Indiana
14. Michigan (L)

Probable Losses:

15. @ Wisconsin (L)
16. @ MSU (L)
17. @ OSU
18. @ Indiana (L)
 

I'm actually a bit glad we struggled against the top 5 teams in the nation... gets these half ass fans off this board... wont have to sift through so much idiotic what if threads and hopefully the world is ending threads go away too.
 


We've lost 2 of the 5 most difficult games on the schedule. If we lose @NW we can panic.
 

after seeing the game today they had at home against northwestern, @ Illinois should not be a probably loss, that team is falling apart and fast
 


after seeing the game today they had at home against northwestern, @ Illinois should not be a probably loss, that team is falling apart and fast

It should probably be swapped with @Wisconsin, but I left it as it would have been when the B1G season started.
 

Updated through 2/6. We have played 4 of the toughest 5 games on the schedule. We've lost them all. But my high-end hope going in was 12-6. We've only lost one the 12 easiest games, @NW. We can still make that up vs Indiana or @OSU.
 

Illinois W
Wisconsin W
@ Iowa L
@ OSU L
Indiana L
PSU W
@ Nebraska W
@ Purdue W

Looks like 10 BT wins likely. We are at least a lock for the NCAAs, barring a total meltdown.
 

Illinois W
Wisconsin W
@ Iowa L
@ OSU L
Indiana L
PSU W
@ Nebraska W
@ Purdue W

Looks like 10 BT wins likely. We are at least a lock for the NCAAs, barring a total meltdown.

Picked 10-8 before the season started. Looking like that is where we should end up.

Agree with your game picks too. Although could swap @ Purdue and @ Iowa. I see us going 1-1 in those game .
 



I'll say:

Illinois W
Wisconsin L (Gopherhole implodes)
@ Iowa W
@ OSU L (Gopherhole implodes again)
Indiana W
PSU W
@ Nebraska W
@ Purdue W
 

I'll say:

Illinois W
Wisconsin L (Gopherhole implodes)
@ Iowa W
@ OSU L (Gopherhole implodes again)
Indiana W
PSU W
@ Nebraska W
@ Purdue W

I would take this if it was offered today....despite the pain of losing at home to the skunks.
 

we will go 11-7 if we win the games we are favored in, I will approach the rest of this season with enthusiasm unknown to man kind, hopefully the team does too :)
 

we will go 11-7 if we win the games we are favored in, I will approach the rest of this season with enthusiasm unknown to man kind, hopefully the team does too :)

I think we'll only be favored in five remaining games:

vs. Ill
vs. Wis
vs. PSU
@Neb
@PU

We will be underdogs in:

@IA
vs. Ind
@OSU

If we win the games we are favored in, that's puts us at 10-8, IMHO. That's exactly where I put us at the start of year, but must admit I had started to think we would get to 12 or 13 conference wins after our 3-0 start. Gonna be disappointed in 10-8, but I think that's where we're headed, if things go well. If we drop a game to Wis or Ill or @PU, well, yuck.
 



I think we'll only be favored in five remaining games:

vs. Ill
vs. Wis
vs. PSU
@Neb
@PU

We will be underdogs in:

@IA
vs. Ind
@OSU

If we win the games we are favored in, that's puts us at 10-8, IMHO. That's exactly where I put us at the start of year, but must admit I had started to think we would get to 12 or 13 conference wins after our 3-0 start. Gonna be disappointed in 10-8, but I think that's where we're headed, if things go well. If we drop a game to Wis or Ill or @PU, well, yuck.

Wisconsin and Purdue are the keys, they lose both of those it will be tough to get in the tournament.
 

I think 10-8 at first gland.. however if we win the next two (not easy but SHOULD win), I say 11-7. Only because it tells me this team will win the games it should win from here on out. Lose 1 and I think 9-9 (no middle ground so throw out 10-8). How's that for a detailed and thought out analysis!
 

Opportunity knocks, Gophers don't answer

Yet another missed opportunity last night. Sparty was banged up & ripe to be had, but the Gophers couldn't cash in. It appears we have another Gopher squad that is not particularly tough-minded. Fragile is a word that comes to mind.

The pressure ratchets up big time if the Gophers lose either of the next two home games. No way in heck should it (read: sneaking into the tournament) come down to this, but it may be the Gophers' saving grace that two of our "easier" road games -- though I would never consider winning in Mackey Arena easy -- are the final two of the season. If the Gophers don't vigorously protect their home court down the stretch, we'll need one or both of those road wins just to get to 10-8 or 9-9. That simply should not happen with this team.

Beat Illinois (and that team in red that somehow finds a way to win a large share of its tight games).
 

I'm actually feeling pretty good looking at our schedule. We have to win the games we should, but I'm still pretty confident we won't be on the bubble. I'm still not counting out a surprise against Indiana at home or a road win at Ohio State. This team has the ability to pull off either of those tough wins. The good news is if we beat the teams we should we should be on a bit of a roll heading into the post season.
 

". ... We have to win the games we should."

Agree with you there, but over the years that hasn't been a particular strength of the Gophers. Seems like we tend to lose more games that we shouldn't (i.e. @ Northwestern) than win ones we're not supposed to.
 

"Breaking down the B1G Schedule (for those still on the bandwagon)"

Way to stick it to those bandwagoners!! Stop with the constant bandwagon talk.
 


I feel like our analysis has been changing from "how many wins can we get to get ourselves a good seed and set us up for a legitimate run?" to "which wins are we going to get to get us to 9-9 and be in the tournament?" It is very frustrating how quickly the expectations of this team plummeted. I think we will make the tournament, but we are quickly running out of margin of error.

8 games left. 2 home games against teams behind us in the standings are games we absolutely should not lose. 1 road game against a team ranked above us in the standings is always a tough proposition (though I hope we get a better effort than we did in that situation last night). If everything goes as expected in those games we are at 7-6. Indiana is going to be another tough one if we keep playing like this, even on our home court, so if we drop that one, 7-7. Nebraska is horrendous, we can take that one on the road, 8-7. We should also take Purdue, who is 5-5 but has been the beneficiary of two games vs. Purdue. 9-7. At Iowa and home against Wisconsin will not be easy games, but if this team relocates their heart, I think we can win both, I'd predict we take one of the two, so 10-8 is my prediction right now.

However, if we keep playing like we have been over this ugly 2-5 stretch, I could see us dropping both Iowa and Wisconsin, that would have us at 9-9 without losing any one game that would really surprise me right now. If that happens, we lose one we shouldn't (which we always seem to do at least once in February, maybe at 5-5 Purdue isn't as terrible as we think they are, maybe Nebraska comes out on fire looking for revenge on their home court for the drubbing we gave them and we come out flat) and we are at 8-10 and squarely on the bubble.

On a side note, the specter of dropping two games to Wisconsin this year is pretty infuriating given that I was expecting us to take two from Wisconsin.
 

Agree with you there, but over the years that hasn't been a particular strength of the Gophers. Seems like we tend to lose more games that we shouldn't (i.e. @ Northwestern) than win ones we're not supposed to.

Other than Northwestern we have taken care of business and you could argue our win over MSU offsets that misstep.
 

Other than Northwestern we have taken care of business. ...

That's the main frustration I'm having right now. In my opinion this team should be so much more than one that simply has "taken care of business." (for the record I expected us to beat Sparty at home; clearly our best win, but I don't consider that stealing one) This is a season I expected more than that, especially considering how injury- and off-court drama-free we've been. I didn't expect this squad to be farting around .500 this late in the season.

It's amazing how one simple little game (@ Northwestern) can change the direction/outlook of a season. The reality is the Gophers have yet to recover from that ugly, embarrassing, and inexcusable loss. Northwestern sucks, I don't care what its RPI says (and I'm a "RPI guy"). There's still time for the Gophs to recover, but the clock is ticking.
 

SS, I kind of get what you are saying about the Michigan State game, but I don't think any of us really though MSU was going to be a top 10 team and a favorite to win the conference. They are quite clearly a better team than anyone thought they'd be, that's why I think that win offsets the Northwestern loss. People just need to realize the last 8 games are going to be less tough than the first 10 have been. If we start losing to the Iowa's, Nebraska's, and Penn State's, then there is reason for major concern. Until that happens I'm not too worried.
 

Those saying 11-7 not sure what you see in this team that makes you think they win 6 out of the next 8.

The more probable outcome is they will need to get a win either @ Iowa or @ Purdue to finish 9-9.
 

Other than Northwestern we have taken care of business and you could argue our win over MSU offsets that misstep.

Beating Michigan State at home when the Gophers were favored to win the game does not offset the lost to Norhtwestern. Not even close.
 

Beating Michigan State at home when the Gophers were favored to win the game does not offset the lost to Norhtwestern. Not even close.

I believe we were 9.5 point favorites at NU. An offsetting game would be to win one we are 9.5 point dogs in.
 

Agree with you there, but over the years that hasn't been a particular strength of the Gophers. Seems like we tend to lose more games that we shouldn't (i.e. @ Northwestern) than win ones we're not supposed to.

Hit the nail on the head, SS. Seems like it's always teams stealing wins against the Gophers and not vice versa. I can probably count on one hand games where the Gophers surprised us in the past few years, yet couldn't find enough digits to count when they've disappointed. Last night is a prime example of where I thought this team might be different this year. Past teams wouldn't have won that game in Breslin either, but my hope was that a veteran squad like this can go on the road against a banged up opponent and cash in.

Minnesota hasn't been particularly adept at giving themselves margin for error of late and it's hard to have the confidence that this team can either A) win each of the games it's supposed to; or B) steal a win against OSU or Indiana.
 

I too hate how we move from the "are we going to be a 3 or 4 seed" talk to "are we going to get in the tourney?"

I don't see how we can't get in the tourney personally. I think 8-10 even gets us in as long as we beat Penn State. Our RPI and SOS are too high for the selection comm. to overlook us especially if we lose 0 games to anyone outside the top 100.

Still sucks that now we have to be HOPING for a 6 seed in the tourney and will probably have to settle for a 7ish.
 

Bubblicious Watch next week

I too hate how we move from the "are we going to be a 3 or 4 seed" talk to "are we going to get in the tourney?"

To that end, my plans are to start the national "Bubblicious Watch" next week. My sincere hope is the Gophers never become part of that conversation, though a loss to free-falling Illinois this weekend probably pushes them close to the list, even with their gaudy RPI.
 




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