Bobby Knight has done the impossible


Too bad Bob Knight is right about his general point. He shouldn't have singled out Kentucky but his point is that one and done freshmen can take 12 hours in the fall pass 6 and not attend class in the spring and still be able to play. I'm one of the people who might be either naive or idealistic but most student-athletes are really student-athletes still. I've sat next to a few during a couple of my classes in my time here at Purdue and outside of being gone for events you could count on one hand how many times they skipped class.

On the other side of this if Kentucky doesn't want to be singled out as the poster child for this problem, even if they have basketball players go to and pass all their classes, don't recruit 4 one and done freshmen every year. Kentucky fans shouldn't act shocked that someone would single them out, the John Wall class cemented the program as a one and done school like O$U and Texas.
 

Yeah, I'm not sympathetic with Cal, even if I don't like Knight. Cal's a cheater, and all of UK's records are going to be wiped out, just like they were at every other school Cal's been at.
 

That wasn't much of an apology considering he told bold faced lies. And coming from a man who took every opportunity during his coaching career to chastise the media for not getting their facts straight his "apology" comes off as disingenuous.

Blaming college kids for doing what's best for them and their families isn't something I subscribe to. Your complaints should be directed at the system itself and not the individuals. A lack of a one and done rule isn't going to stop elite coaches and schools from getting top talent year in and year out. The more cynical part of me believes that's where most of the complaints truly arise from. "Man, these kids would go to Hometown U and play for us if it weren't for UK, UNC, Duke, etc stockpiling these kids".

If anyone here can honestly say they'd have turned down a multi million dollar contract doing something they love after one year of college I'll tip my hat to you.
 

As someone mentioned to me last week, Calipari, Rick Barnes at Texas and Self(to some degree), are turning the NCAA into an unpaid NBA development league. It is impossible to turn Calipari into anything other than the slimeball he is and the same with the guy at Texas and his personal development program at the "Academy" in Las Vegas without a single teacher. (Basically a program a Texas booster sponsors as their equivalent of a junior hockey program.)
You really can't make up what corrupt slicksters these guys are.
It is too bad Knight was not more careful with his facts, but his general assertions are completely correct.
 


That wasn't much of an apology considering he told bold faced lies. And coming from a man who took every opportunity during his coaching career to chastise the media for not getting their facts straight his "apology" comes off as disingenuous.

Blaming college kids for doing what's best for them and their families isn't something I subscribe to. Your complaints should be directed at the system itself and not the individuals. A lack of a one and done rule isn't going to stop elite coaches and schools from getting top talent year in and year out. The more cynical part of me believes that's where most of the complaints truly arise from. "Man, these kids would go to Hometown U and play for us if it weren't for UK, UNC, Duke, etc stockpiling these kids".

If anyone here can honestly say they'd have turned down a multi million dollar contract doing something they love after one year of college I'll tip my hat to you.

I'm surely not blaming the kids or their families, I'm blaming the broken system and the coaches that exploit it. I'm sorry but having 3 or 4 one and done players on your team every year isn't college basketball, thats simply a group of players who are forced to go to college for a year before heading to the NBA. College basketball is about watching players grow over their 3 or 4 years on campus and watching them gel and come together as a team.

And yes I was in that position I would have to leave and grab the multi million dollar contract. No question.
 

I'm pretty sure it was made public last year that Calipari told his NBA-bound players to take it easy in the classroom during spring semester.
 

As someone mentioned to me last week, Calipari, Rick Barnes at Texas and Self(to some degree), are turning the NCAA into an unpaid NBA development league. It is impossible to turn Calipari into anything other than the slimeball he is and the same with the guy at Texas and his personal development program at the "Academy" in Las Vegas without a single teacher. (Basically a program a Texas booster sponsors as their equivalent of a junior hockey program.)
You really can't make up what corrupt slicksters these guys are.
It is too bad Knight was not more careful with his facts, but his general assertions are completely correct.

That's just an absurd statement on every level. Calipari thinks the rule is stupid and has said so publicly but he can't do anything but work with it instead of against it. I hate to break it to you but Tubby Smith, Coach K, John Calipari, Roy Williams, etc aren't getting paid millions of millions of dollars to crank out doctors, lawyers and engineers. They're getting paid to win games. Maybe that's a cynical viewpoint but it is a valid one.

People cite the baseball rule all the time. What they fail to mention is that in probably 75% of the cases kids forgo the draft and commit to college not because they value education or their experience of playing college baseball but because they don't like their draft position or the money being offered. And the college baseball coaches loathe the rule themselves. They lose tons of kids every year at the last minute because they get an 11th hourd deal done and go off into the farm system with their signing bonus.

You can't have your cake and eat it too. If you want kids to value the college experience, graduate and stick around you're going to see a game akin to Division II or Division III. What people need to wrap their heads around is that kids don't pick up a basketball and go "Man, I hope I get good enough so I can go to Minnesota or Purdue and get a degree in Civil Engineering". They grow up wanting to be LeBron or Kobe or KG or Jordan or Derrick Rose and play in the NBA. I know NAIA kids that even though they're playing small time college basketball still harbor aspirations of playing in the NBA even though the chances of them ever making it are almost zero.

It's not just an easy question to look at and say "This is automatically wrong. These kids should be forced to do this or that because it makes my team and the game better" Hell, I wish it did for purely selfish reasons. But that's not the way it works nor should it.
 

That's just an absurd statement on every level. Calipari thinks the rule is stupid and has said so publicly but he can't do anything but work with it instead of against it. I hate to break it to you but Tubby Smith, Coach K, John Calipari, Roy Williams, etc aren't getting paid millions of millions of dollars to crank out doctors, lawyers and engineers. They're getting paid to win games. Maybe that's a cynical viewpoint but it is a valid one.

People cite the baseball rule all the time. What they fail to mention is that in probably 75% of the cases kids forgo the draft and commit to college not because they value education or their experience of playing college baseball but because they don't like their draft position or the money being offered. And the college baseball coaches loathe the rule themselves. They lose tons of kids every year at the last minute because they get an 11th hourd deal done and go off into the farm system with their signing bonus.

You can't have your cake and eat it too. If you want kids to value the college experience, graduate and stick around you're going to see a game akin to Division II or Division III. What people need to wrap their heads around is that kids don't pick up a basketball and go "Man, I hope I get good enough so I can go to Minnesota or Purdue and get a degree in Civil Engineering". They grow up wanting to be LeBron or Kobe or KG or Jordan or Derrick Rose and play in the NBA. I know NAIA kids that even though they're playing small time college basketball still harbor aspirations of playing in the NBA even though the chances of them ever making it are almost zero.

It's not just an easy question to look at and say "This is automatically wrong. These kids should be forced to do this or that because it makes my team and the game better" Hell, I wish it did for purely selfish reasons. But that's not the way it works nor should it.

Guys, please don't listen to this guy. He has an agenda. I have a feeling that he was not recruited by Tubby at some point. He defends cheaters like many KY fans would do. Here is my evidence that this guy is full of crap:

Vanderbilt University had a coach named C.M Newton (Later, he became AD at UK and hired Pitino and Tubby). This coach had a player who was a friend of mine when I was in Nashville:

Charles Mayes
Degree: B.A. Chemistry
Graduate School: Vanderbilt Medical School[/B]Occupation: Physician

Coaches used to produce doctors and Lawyers but people like Calamary changed everything.

Coach Knight is 100% correct about this.

Go Gophers
 



Guys, please don't listen to this guy. He has an agenda. I have a feeling that he was not recruited by Tubby at some point. He defends cheaters like many KY fans would do. Here is my evidence that this guy is full of crap:

Vanderbilt University had a coach named C.M Newton (Later, he became AD at UK and hired Pitino and Tubby). This coach had a player who was a friend of mine when I was in Nashville:

Charles Mayes
Degree: B.A. Chemistry
Graduate School: Vanderbilt Medical School[/B]Occupation: Physician

Coaches used to produce doctors and Lawyers but people like Calamary changed everything.

Coach Knight is 100% correct about this.

Go Gophers

What a difficult situation. Do i believe The Truth or The-Real-Truth?
 

Or at door 3, theres Ralph Sampson, who is also known as "Tha Truth"
 




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