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Contrary to my poor reporting the first time around I'll try to get it right this time. Word has it that he has a grayshirt offer from the u of m now. Michigan state was in town this week and worked him out, no word of what ( if any ) kind of offer he picked up from them. But the msu o line coach was in rosemount this week.
 

Rosemountain ~

You might know how this works. When you offer someone a "grayshirt", are you essentially promising him that he will have a scholarship next season? Like, does it happen where kid's will "grayshirt" and then the school doesn't come through with an offer? I guess, for him, if it wasn't a gurantee, wouldn't it make more sense to walk on and earn a scholarship?
 

I would think a grayshirt offer has a reason other then the Gophers trying to pad the OL for next year...maybe grades or injury issues which allows the player to work on those things without worrying about a scholarship.
 

Why aren’t they offering this kid a scholarship NOW?

His highlight reel looks much, much better than that N. Illinois OL commit that they are bringing in.
 

I know he does not have grade or injury Problems. I think that mn simply already has a pretty full class at o line but they'd love to have him still if he'll wait.

Don't really know how a grayshirt works technically ( don't know if it's guaranteed )

Wouldn't surprise me if he gets a late offer from multiple schools. If they don't get someone else they give a late offer I expect. Michigan state and Wisconsin have both been to town in recent weeks so obviously they have interest. Don't think he has gotten an offer from either yet
 



Grayshirt offers generally start second semester and then have five years to play four like any other recruit. They and the team benefits by getting an extra spring practice and another year of physical maturity. If there are academic or injury issues you get another year to work them out. Champion took a grayshirt due to injury but was hosed when he wasn't cleared by the NCAA Clearing House on academics so he also had to do a semester of prep school.
 

A gray shirt is guaranteed in the sense that if you don't honor them, it is going to look very bad to future recruits and it could certainly have a negative affect with kids in the future.

The player does not enroll for the first semester. He enrolls for second semester and then gets to go to spring practice. He can then redshirt the following year and get 4 more years to play after that. His scholarship would count against the 2012 class.
 

GVBadger said:
A gray shirt is guaranteed in the sense that if you don't honor them, it is going to look very bad to future recruits and it could certainly have a negative affect with kids in the future.

The player does not enroll for the first semester. He enrolls for second semester and then gets to go to spring practice. He can then redshirt the following year and get 4 more years to play after that. His scholarship would count against the 2012 class.
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Yeah, I get how it works and why it is beneficial for the school to get as many of these kids as possible (spreading out the recruits to different classes, more time to let a kid physicall mature without starting his eligibility clock). But I guess my question is, how often do schools back out of grayshirts? Like is it something that happens enough for Bjorklund to be concerned about the U backing out of that promise, or is it sort of an unwritten rule?

For him, if it isn't like a 100% gurantee, I would think it would be more beneficial to get into a school and start practicing and walk on and hope to earn a scholarship.
 



Bob_Loblaw said:
Yeah, I get how it works and why it is beneficial for the school to get as many of these kids as possible (spreading out the recruits to different classes, more time to let a kid physicall mature without starting his eligibility clock). But I guess my question is, how often do schools back out of grayshirts? Like is it something that happens enough for Bjorklund to be concerned about the U backing out of that promise, or is it sort of an unwritten rule?

For him, if it isn't like a 100% gurantee, I would think it would be more beneficial to get into a school and start practicing and walk on and hope to earn a scholarship.
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I could be wrong but I think even for a grayshirt he signs an LOI no National Signing Day which would make it binding on both sides.
 

Many schools use the grayshirt method. Kansas State is big on it under Bill Snyder. If a kid is borderline or need development, it is a good way of getting extra time to develop before his clock starts. Also helps spread out scholarships among classes.
 

grunkiejr said:
I could be wrong but I think even for a grayshirt he signs an LOI no National Signing Day which would make it binding on both sides.
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Oh ok, than I could see how it would make sense for a kid in Bjorklund's shoes.

I always thought it was like a nod and a wink sort of deal, but that was a complete guess.
 

Rosemountian said:
Contrary to my poor reporting the first time around I'll try to get it right this time. Word has it that he has a grayshirt offer from the u of m now. Michigan state was in town this week and worked him out, no word of what ( if any ) kind of offer he picked up from them. But the msu o line coach was in rosemount this week.
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Grey shirt or preferred walk on? Does grey shirt mean that he would start this semester?:confused:
 



No, grayshirt wouldn't start until a year from this semester.
 

Most grey shirts attend school for a semester on their own dime(they could wait till Jan if wanted to). They can have no contact with coaches or the team officially till the 2nd semester starts.
 

Generally smart to pay for your own way the fall semester and of course once spring semester comes around you go on scholarship. Basically the player gets two red-shirt years. Then again Kansas State fullback Braden Wilson was a grayshirt that started his freshman year after his grayshirt year.
 

Your clock starts when you enroll regardless of who's paying you have to start in Jan to get the benefit of a grayshirt.
 


northerngopher said:
:confused::confused: So is Bjorkland graduating early and starting this semester?
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No, I think it's the other way around. If he decides to grayshirt, he will graduate at his normal time (June) and then he will work out and get stronger on his own over the summer and during the fall semester and then he will enroll in January of 2012. He will then have that semester working out with and going to spring ball with the Gophers and he will then RS the 2012 football season. So he would be a class behind Tommy Olson, the McAvoys, Campion, F. Bush, etc.

The main purpose for this would be to keep him a grade behind those guys (prospects spread out over classes) and that he would get more time to get stronger before his eligibility clock.
 

Bob_Loblaw said:
No, I think it's the other way around. If he decides to grayshirt, he will graduate at his normal time (June) and then he will work out and get stronger on his own over the summer and during the fall semester and then he will enroll in January of 2012. He will then have that semester working out with and going to spring ball with the Gophers and he will then RS the 2012 football season. So he would be a class behind Tommy Olson, the McAvoys, Campion, F. Bush, etc.

The main purpose for this would be to keep him a grade behind those guys (prospects spread out over classes) and that he would get more time to get stronger before his eligibility clock.
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Thank you I think that I may understand now!! Do you know if Kill is bringing in any preferred walk ons?
 

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