Big Ten and College Basketball Scoring

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The Big Ten generally gets criticized for it's slow pace and lack of scoring. So I figured why not actually look at the numbers to see (I'm a statistics guy). I figured out the average points scored in conference games of the top 9 conferences. The Big Ten finished last, but not by a whole lot. The difference between the top and bottom conference was only 4.7.

Atlantic 10 - 67.9
Pac-12 - 67.8
Missouri Valley - 66.7
ACC - 65.7
Big East - 65.3
SEC - 65.1
Big 12 - 63.8
Mountain West - 63.7
Big Ten - 63.2

To me, there isn't that huge of a difference between those conferences.

Then I wondered how this compared to years past. I picked 2003-2004 to compare each conference (don't ask why that year, just randomly picked). All but one conference has seen their scoring decrease. Scoring in some conferences has decreased a lot. 2003-04 average scoring (number in parenthesis is the difference from 03-04 to this season):

ACC - 73.2 (-7.5)
PAC-12 - 73.2 (-5.4)
Big 12 - 69.8 (-6.1)
Atlantic 10 - 68.1 (-0.2)
Mountain West - 67.5 (-3.8)
SEC - 67.4 (-2.3)
Big East - 67.2 (-1.9)
Big Ten - 65.4 (-2.2)
Missouri Valley - 64.9 (+1.8)

I eyeballed a few seasons before and after 03-04 just to make sure that year wasn't an outlier. There's a few things that popped into my mind as to why this is:

1. More players leaving early. After looking at the numbers, the underclassmen leaving in general has increased, but not by a lot. 10-15 more players leaving isn't going to account for the numbers being this much lower.

2. Free Throws. Just looking at the ACC as they've had the biggest drop, teams are shooting almost five less free throws now than in 03-04, and making about four less. Could this be because of the 3-point shot?

3. Players aren't as good with the basic skills as they used to be. I heard someone say the other day that players don't know how to pass into the post now days.

What does everyone else think?
 

"What does everyone else think? "

Think? Now that would be a new experience for some of us. I had a thought once, and damn it felt good. :)
 

You're just not seeing the same volume of shots. In most instances when team scores it's because they get hot and make 50% of their 3 pointers.

I'm old school and love offensive basketball. Think the game was better and more popular when offense was important. Today most people only show interest in March and half of those only because they can fill out a bracket.
 


What is the Big Ten average if you discount Wisconsin?

On a serious note; I wonder how the number of shots attempted per game compares and if that would be a better judge of pace of play.
 


I think it's a combination of a number of reasons, some that have been mentioned.. but some others to note: 3-point shot moved back, changes in rules, changes in how refs call games, and a BIG ONE --- improvements in scouting, including but not limited to video scouting.
 

I think it's a combination of a number of reasons, some that have been mentioned.. but some others to note: 3-point shot moved back, changes in rules, changes in how refs call games, and a BIG ONE --- improvements in scouting, including but not limited to video scouting.

Good post
 

scoring

I think it is about time to reduce the shot clock from 35 to 30 seconds.
 

I think it's a combination of a number of reasons, some that have been mentioned.. but some others to note: 3-point shot moved back, changes in rules, changes in how refs call games, and a BIG ONE --- improvements in scouting, including but not limited to video scouting.

Jay Bilas was on PTI today and they were talking about the low scoring in college this year. Bilas said he feels this is the #1 reason. Refs are letting defenses bump more than ever before. He said fouls called are down two per game this year, which is a huge difference.

He also said that the charging calls are out of control, which I agree as well. Is there a stat for charging calls? I've got to believe more are called now days than 10-20 years ago.
 



Thanks for doing that. Couple of interesting things come out of that.

1. Less of a difference than I would have thought.
2. Would have guessed ACC would be the leader
3. Agree (and have for a while) that a 30 second clock would improve the game.
4. Think there seriously might be something to learn doing this X-Wisc.
5. I guess it's what you were raised on, but I have no problem with the amount points scored in B1G games. I like it. As w/ anything else, the less you have of something the more you value it, and I think it makes for an overall more exciting game to watch - and by definition lower scores will lead to closer game.
6. Since you are a stats guy, is there any way to determine if there is a 3 point homecourt shooting adantage? can you easily datamine taht?
 

Jay Bilas was on PTI today and they were talking about the low scoring in college this year. Bilas said he feels this is the #1 reason. Refs are letting defenses bump more than ever before. He said fouls called are down two per game this year, which is a huge difference.

He also said that the charging calls are out of control, which I agree as well. Is there a stat for charging calls? I've got to believe more are called now days than 10-20 years ago.

Caught that as well and totally agree with Bilas. I actually think a shorter shot clock would make the game worse, at least until they clean up physical part of the game.
 

Jay Bilas was on PTI today and they were talking about the low scoring in college this year. Bilas said he feels this is the #1 reason. Refs are letting defenses bump more than ever before. He said fouls called are down two per game this year, which is a huge difference.

He also said that the charging calls are out of control, which I agree as well. Is there a stat for charging calls? I've got to believe more are called now days than 10-20 years ago.

Reiterated by today's Wisconsin-Michigan game. Only 7 total fouls were called in the 2nd half and first four minutes of OT.
 




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