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Congrats to the basketball team for their success this year and I hope you Football fans are out there supporting them too. Their success has to contribute in some form for recruiting football athletes. I just hope they continue to win and that our recruits and potential recruits notice! do you guys think with this success that alipate/allen will want to play both sports even more?
 

Curseislifted33 said:
Congrats to the basketball team for their success this year and I hope you Football fans are out there supporting them too. Their success has to contribute in some form for recruiting football athletes. I just hope they continue to win and that our recruits and potential recruits notice! do you guys think with this success that alipate/allen will want to play both sports even more?
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i'm hoping its going to make henderson want to play for the gophers even more.
 


Apologies if this has been addressed here already...

...but is there any indication that Maturi's recent loosening of the purse strings in pursuit of Tubby and Brewster (and supporting staff) was a push to get one marquee team at the U? Not that it would stop me from supporting the basketball team at all, but would it be surprising to anyone if they become something of an established power and as a result there's less attention/funding for staff and facilities for the football team?

I'm not saying I've heard this somewhere, it's just been in the back of my mind over these last couple years. Especially since we haven't had much of an identity either way recently, and back in Clem's glory days the U was a decidedly basketball-first school (disregarding hockey, of course).
 

i love gopher basketball, but IMO a rose bowl victory would be more important for the school than a NC in basketball.
 


There's no way that they forsake the football program. For one, they just built a new stadium costing millions of dollars. I don't think the sudden success of the b-ball team is part of any grand scheme of the athletic department. Part of it is that it's much easier to turn around a basketball program, than a football program (1-2 new players can have a much greater impact on a b-ball team than a football team). Another reason is that Tubby is flat out a better coach than Brewster is. Tubby is widely regarded as one of the top coaches in the nation. Brewster has not reached that level yet. Saying that, I'm a big Brewster supporter and think he's a good coach, but he is not on the same level as Tubby right now.
 

runner616 said:
There's no way that they forsake the football program. For one, they just built a new stadium costing millions of dollars. I don't think the sudden success of the b-ball team is part of any grand scheme of the athletic department. Part of it is that it's much easier to turn around a basketball program, than a football program (1-2 new players can have a much greater impact on a b-ball team than a football team). Another reason is that Tubby is flat out a better coach than Brewster is. Tubby is widely regarded as one of the top coaches in the nation. Brewster has not reached that level yet. Saying that, I'm a big Brewster supporter and think he's a good coach, but he is not on the same level as Tubby right now.
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If both basketball and football are sellouts, football will bring in more than twice the revenue as basketball. A successful football program drives the athletic department, enables the U to have many successful sports, which ads to the prestige of the University. A successful basketball program alone cannot maintain U athletics without cutting some programs.
 

The U makes money on three sports: men's hockey, men's BB and football. We are lucky to have hockey as it somewhat covers for our low attendance in FB.

But where we really, really make money is from transfers from being in the Big Ten. A cynic might even say we play FB so we can stay in the Big Ten. No FB, no BT, no money. We give the Big Ten what they want and need, they give Joel what he wants and needs (money).
 

I think a $288 million investment in football is a pretty good indication that they're trying to build a football presence as well as a basketball presence. Further, we should have another 3-5 million on the table starting next year as a result of the addition of the revenue from the football stadium. In the end, I think that will go a long way to supporting the creation of the things we need to become a player in both football and basketball.

Love him or hate him, you've got to admit...Maturi seems to have a pretty good idea as to what he's doing right now, and it wouldn't surprise me a bit if we're contending for Big Ten championships in both sports in the near future. That said, with Tubby as the coach, it's clear that the basketball team is simply ahead of the pace of the football team at this moment in that aspect.
 



I had a sports management course with Phil Esten (associate AD, you always see him on tv talking about the football stadium). Numerous times he mentioned that football does NOT make a lot of money. Yes, it brings in a lot of revenue but the expenses for football are enormous. He mentioned that football barely breaks even from a profit perspective. I would assume that might change with a new stadium and going to better bowl games, but football does not make lots of money. Revenue, yes. Profit, not so much.
 

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