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There was nothing to watch on TV tonight, but the Gophers were on. I watched about two minutes and turned it off.

I've never cared so little about Gopher basketball before. Total apathy.
 

Too bad you missedan entertaining game. Too bad your apathy didn't keep you from posting here.
 

You had to start an entirely new thread for this ****post?
 




to be honest - I fell asleep during the 2nd half. (of course, I had been up since 4:30AM).

The question is - at what point does the apathy turn to anger? If the Gophs start stinkin' up the joint in the conference, I could see the fans turning ugly. Is this program better off right now with no one showing up for the games, or with fans booing and calling for the coaches' head?
 

He has a point, I don't remember their ever being so few posts after a game against another high major.
 

I watched about 10 minutes of the first half and then had enough. I've already checked out this season.
 

I'm to the point of let's just get to the Ohio State game. Final 2 nonconference games feel like scrimmages to help Gophers get ready for conference. In grand scheme of things the Chicago State and Milwaukee results mean very little.

Beat the Buckeyes.
 



The poor decisions by Morris, Konate's inability to catch and handle passes and rebounds and the crappy free throw shooting were key tonight. If Morris and Konate's positions could be upgraded within the current roster it would make a big difference.
 


SelectionSunday said:
I'm to the point of let's just get to the Ohio State game. Final 2 nonconference games feel like scrimmages to help Gophers get ready for conference. In grand scheme of things the Chicago State and Milwaukee results mean very little.

Beat the Buckeyes.
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How are the Buckeyes so bad so far this year? They have 8 players in the RSCI consensus top 100 of their respective classes. EIGHT! The Gophers have zero. (Dorsey was the closest at #105)

Is this team going to best the 9-22 mark of the 2006-2007 squad? I am starting to have serious doubts. And I might have to be 3 sheets to the wind to get through these Gopher games the rest of the season. :D
 

This thread should be bumped during every game from this point forward.

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While not at the level of OP, I admit that when the game was over I just shrugged. Normally, this would have been upsetting. Mediocre opponent, home-like atmosphere (the crowd was very into it the last 5 minutes) etc. But this year? Meh. Not worth giving a second thought to.
 

Pitino is searching for the right combo which he may never find. My head was spinning trying to keep track of who was on the floor.

This team has many deficits and it will continue as most felt it would. Kinda like trying to fit square pegs in round holes. But its difficult to win when you shoot poorly. This is a game they could have easily won.

I am intrigued by Murphy but he, and sometimes Mason, are the only guys right now that can make something good happen with the ball.

Me? I watched but with no emotion.
 

Bayfieldgopher said:
I am intrigued by Murphy but he, and sometimes Mason, are the only guys right now that can make something good happen with the .
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McBrayer has shot 18 FTs over the last 2 games. He should be included in doing something good with the ball.
 

short ornery norwegian said:
The question is - at what point does the apathy turn to anger? If the Gophs start stinkin' up the joint in the conference, I could see the fans turning ugly. Is this program better off right now with no one showing up for the games, or with fans booing and calling for the coaches' head?
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I would argue that an angry fan base is much better than an apathetic one. It's much worse for a program when apathy sets in. And to be honest, I was surprised that there weren't more voices of discontent during the South Dakota State game. I thought the fans would voice their frustration more than they did, which led me to believe that we are already moving from an angry fan base to an apathetic one, which is hard to see.

I still contend that this fan base will rally around a young group of players busting their ass on every possession, playing in your face D, diving for every loose ball, and improving. Our fans will rally around that and will see through some tough loses. Problem is, we don't look anything like that team right now.

Go Gophers!!
 

BleedGopher said:
I would argue that an angry fan base is much better than an apathetic one. It's much worse for a program when apathy sets in. And to be honest, I was surprised that there weren't more voices of discontent during the South Dakota State game. I thought the fans would voice their frustration more than they did, which led me to believe that we are already moving from an angry fan base to an apathetic one, which is hard to see.

I still contend that this fan base will rally around a young group of players busting their ass on every possession, playing in your face D, diving for every loose ball, and improving. Our fans will rally around that and will see through some tough loses. Problem is, we don't look anything like that team right now.

Go Gophers!!
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That's the scary part. When we talk about a "rebuilding" year (a term I hate) with young players, I feel like solid effort for forty minutes should be the one thing you always get. Young guys getting reps doesn't do anything for the future when they are out there practicing bad habits, which is what they seem to be doing.
 

bleedsmaroonandgold said:
That's the scary part. When we talk about a "rebuilding" year (a term I hate) with young players, I feel like solid effort for forty minutes should be the one thing you always get. Young guys getting reps doesn't do anything for the future when they are out there practicing bad habits, which is what they seem to be doing.
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I don't see that. What bad habits are the young guys exhibiting other than missing some shots? I thought the defensive effort is picking up, they are figuring out the rotations in the 2-3 matchup zone a bit better. We still struggle rebounding, but that's going to continue to be an issue unless Konate suddenly finds a large increase of athleticism or Joey King turns into a completely different player.

I thought last night was very good for the 3 freshmen and Mason, we lost because we have almost no contribution from Joey and Carlos. If you go look at our prediction threads again this was the constant thread, Joey and Carlos would take us as far we were going to go. Right now, we aren't going very far. As a huge King supporter, his effort on the offensive end has been frustrating to watch and he's always been a challenge to watch defensively. Carlos's shot isn't falling right now. So the idea of his "poor shot selection" is amplified by looking at the box score after the game and realizing not only did he miss his bad shots, he missed his good ones too.

It's a shame that this fan base can only watch these games with 2 possible outcomes. Joy or anger. There should be in between, I watched with the same anticipation and hope for someone to pull through and pull that team to victory, we don't have that guy right now. We can continue to beat the drum of HOW DARE PITINO PUT US IN THIS POSITION!!!! But my hope is that it's thank god these 4 or 5 youngsters got the minutes they did now because they are going to pay huge dividends in 2 years.

Call it Maroon colored glasses, call it fanboyism, I don't care... The reality is there aren't many other choices for someone who want's to watch, cheer and follow a Minnesota basketball team.
 

Agree with what others have pointed out. I sense more apathy than anger from the Gopher hoops fan base. I don't boo, but that said I was surprised how little booing there was at the SDSU game. It reeked of acceptance of "We are what we are."

Not meant as a criticism of the fans. I don't blame them. It's not easy to keep investing into something over & over and getting so little in return.
 

The best thing that can happen for this squad is graduation. Next year looks bright already, I thought it would be at least two horrendous years but these young guys look good. Get Konte and jayjew as many reps as you can this season. Feed em on the block even if it results in a few TOs its the only way theyll learn.
 

We all knew the blemishes that our "senior leadership" had coming into the season. I don't know if it is apathy or just more realistic lower expectations. Right now we have a group of young, talented players that need time to grow into their responsibilities.

I look at this as the first real year for coach Pitino. He did inherit some talent, but he was not able to build on it immediately. A combo of no reputation for the school or coach, along with aiming a little too high, he ended up taking some "fill-in" players. A couple of those players have not been able to make the transition, take that along with medical and discipline issues and you have our current team. Has Pitino made some mistakes and missed on a few players, of course, but he has learned. Coach Pitino has gotten much better in recruiting players and next year will be more balanced. He will be able to aim for even higher recruits as they progress.

So with lower expectations, let's enjoy the progress as the players develop. I enjoyed watching the freshman hustling their butts off much more than seeing King stand there and watch someone else get the rebound or see Morris drive to the basket and toss it out of bounds.


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Apathy, not anger is the feeling. I could get angry and boo Monson. Felt hopeful with Tubby's teams but ready for a change after little success in the B10. Now we are back to the worst again and we just have to wait for the next coach in a quiet, half full barn. Sooner we get A change, the better.
 

alchemy2u said:
So with lower expectations, let's enjoy the progress as the players develop. I enjoyed watching the freshman hustling their butts off much more than seeing King stand there and watch someone else get the rebound or see Morris drive to the basket and toss it out of bounds.


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While I thought the team was a bit flat against USD, I did not notice a lack of hustle in the last two games. The team played hard, just not particularly well. They were better defensively against OK State than SDSU, but OK State didn't look like as good of a team to me (regardless of conference affiliation) as SDSU and the Gophers' cause was helped by OK State not being able to shoot the 3 like SDSU. The Gophers looked like a poor offensive team in both games. There's more than "lack of hustle" at work here.
 

I've been a fan since the Trent Tucker days, and during the Tubby years I'd get angry / upset about some stuff.
But it's to the point you can't really get excited or upset about it. Gopher basketball is what it is. Get a tourney bid once every 3-5 years as a 10-12 seed. Maybe win a game.

I basically had enough feeling just to post this last night and to check in today to see if others felt almost the same way.

We're really 2-3 years away from having any hope again.
 

I have been attending games for several years. The fans are waiting to react, but there is not much to react to as the play on the floor has been very poor. If there is apathy now, wait until the Big 10 season starts. If the Gophers play like they did against SDSU and USD, they will be fortunate to win 4 Big 10 games.
 

CDH27 said:
I have been attending games for several years. The fans are waiting to react, but there is not much to react to as the play on the floor has been very poor. If there is apathy now, wait until the Big 10 season starts. If the Gophers play like they did against SDSU and USD, they will be fortunate to win 4 Big 10 games.
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At least the Gophers play Rutgers twice!
 

I have to admit that I'm surprised the tone on this message board has gone downhill so fast. While people are certainly allowed to formulate their own opinion on the direction of the program, I think most of us would agree that this year was going to be defined by how much the young players on this team would improve through the course of the year. Am I to now assume that people are so discouraged by the lack of progress through the first ten games? Wins/losses this year matter little in the grand scheme of things unless you are worried about the downstream impact of recruiting in future years. But last I checked we have filled the scholarships for next year and only have one available for '17. (I realize things can change) We weren't expecting to go to the tournament this year and whether we win four or six games in the Big Ten probably doesn't matter a ton either.

For me....I was as excited as I've been in a while for the freshman class coming in this year. I haven't seen anything to suggest the Dorsey/McBrayer/Murphy/Gilbert class can't be a successful class moving forward. I'm certainly not going to write them off at this point or worry about McBrayer's shooting percentage ten games into his college career. That's crazy.

For the casual fan that knows nothing about the current recruits or what is in the pipeline next year, I can understand looking at the results this year and being disappointed. But for the 100 of us or so that spend way too much time on this site, I don't understand the lack of a big picture viewpoint and the change in expectations from where most of us would have been at the start of the year.
 

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