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What did 45 want Pence to do, in your opinion, and why?
I think what Trump wanted Pence to do is well documented. However, this idea that we can have a Presidential election and if the VP just decides not to certify then everything collapses is comical. Trump lost the election and Pence isn’t the only thing that stopped him from staying in office.

The 2nd paragraph in Howie’s post? Pure gibberish. He is lost in conspiracy land. 24/7 watching CNN will do that to you. His continual obsession with Trump 10-months after the election is something he should consider professional help for. It can’t be helping his life, that is for sure.
 

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I think what Trump wanted Pence to do is well documented. However, this idea that we can have a Presidential election and if the VP just decides not to certify then everything collapses is comical. Trump lost the election and Pence isn’t the only thing that stopped him from staying in office.
He didn't say it would happen. He offered a path. That path may seem looney tunes to you - and it is - but that wasn't the challenge. It is a path. And as spg said, it likely was on the napkins with scribbles by seditionist dumbasses. And that most definitely includes the whiny little bitch sore loser himself. You are so certain you can predict what happens after Pence refuses to certify? I say you can't. At that point, the insanity has officially been sanctioned.
 

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I think what Trump wanted Pence to do is well documented. However...I will deny, deflect, downplay, divert, diminish, and outright lie to minimize the actual impact of HOW CORROSIVE TO OUR DEMOCRACY IT WAS TO HAVE A SITTING PRESIDENT DEMAND HIS VP OVERTURN AN ELECTION.

In fact, I'll insist the problem wasn't what Trump did, rather the problem is people who won't dismiss it like it never happened.

Ftfy.
 


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Congress doesn't certify the Electoral College. The House of Representatives decides who wins each state's electors. The GQP controls more state delegations. President Trump is re-elected. Which was Trump's goal. Thankfully he's an idiot and the best he could find to help was Rudy and Sydney Kraaken.

This time. Next time, they'll cut it off at the pass and just have GQP state legislatures in GA, AZ etc. declare fraud, take over the election certification and declare Trump the winner from the jump. Less messy. You'll cheer it on.
Yes, much less messy. That would have totally worked. The house of reps would have all gone along with it and Trump would be president and there’s nothing anyone could do.
 


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Yes, much less messy. That would have totally worked. The house of reps would have all gone along with it and Trump would be president and there’s nothing anyone could do.
You would be - justifiably - losing your mind if this was Barry or Hillary. Put an R behind the guy's name and it's no big deal.
 


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Yes, much less messy. That would have totally worked. The house of reps would have all gone along with it and Trump would be president and there’s nothing anyone could do.
No one knows what would have happened. But who can say what's impossible when none of this would have seemed possible a year ago.

Why would a GQP controlled House delegation from say, Pennsylvania or Wisconsin vote for Biden in that scenario? If they do, they'll be primaried and removed by howling Trump supporters in their red districts. What's going to happen to them if they vote to give the state to Trump? Nothing.
 
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Yes, much less messy. That would have totally worked. The house of reps would have all gone along with it and Trump would be president and there’s nothing anyone could do.
You are a complete dishonest hack. The ENTIRE POINT of the insurrection attempt was to not certify the election. 121 House Repugnicans voted to not certify Arizona. 6 GUTLESS fucking Senate Repugnicans.

Theist goes on and on. That was Trump's plan, FFS. Throw the electoral college out and have the house choose the winner.

But you (and all the right wing assholes here) already know that. You were cheering it on.
 



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You are a complete dishonest hack. The ENTIRE POINT of the insurrection attempt was to not certify the election. 121 House Repugnicans voted to not certify Arizona. 6 GUTLESS fucking Senate Repugnicans.

Theist goes on and on. That was Trump's plan, FFS. Throw the electoral college out and have the house choose the winner.

But you (and all the right wing assholes here) already know that. You were cheering it on.
So angry. Take a deep breath. Democrats voted not to certify in 2000 and 2016. So? There is a constitutional process. The 1/6 riot was never going to have any effect.
 

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So angry. Take a deep breath. Democrats voted not to certify in 2000 and 2016. So? There is a constitutional process. The 1/6 riot was never going to have any effect.
And part of that process is that it can get thrown to the House to decide. If members of Congress had been killed, it's very likely they wouldn't have come right back and finished hours later the same way they did.

Acting like it's some certainty how it would have unfolded is foolishness. It would likely have ended up in front of a 6-3 Conservative SCOTUS.
 

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And part of that process is that it can get thrown to the House to decide. If members of Congress had been killed, it's very likely they wouldn't have come right back and finished hours later the same way they did.

Acting like it's some certainty how it would have unfolded is foolishness. It would likely have ended up in front of a 6-3 Conservative SCOTUS.
In your mind we were just millimeters away from Trump remaining President.
This......... is CNN.
 




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And part of that process is that it can get thrown to the House to decide. If members of Congress had been killed, it's very likely they wouldn't have come right back and finished hours later the same way they did.

Acting like it's some certainty how it would have unfolded is foolishness. It would likely have ended up in front of a 6-3 Conservative SCOTUS.
If members of congress had been killed, no republicans would have supported the process.

conservative scotus would have undoubtedly struck this down

it isn’t foolishness. Biden won the election. The only way that could be changed is if it could be proven in court that vote fraud or voting errors occurred. And it wasn’t.

this is simply fantasy stuff by the left and a small band of MAGA. The rest of us aren’t buying it
 


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If members of congress had been killed, no republicans would have supported the process.

conservative scotus would have undoubtedly struck this down

it isn’t foolishness. Biden won the election. The only way that could be changed is if it could be proven in court that vote fraud or voting errors occurred. And it wasn’t.

this is simply fantasy stuff by the left and a small band of MAGA. The rest of us aren’t buying it
None, absolutist Fool2? The majority of them came back later that night and voted not to certify the results in key states.
 



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And part of that process is that it can get thrown to the House to decide. If members of Congress had been killed...
Again, more mindless "If"s.... If, if, if THIS would have happened, THEN we would have really been in a pickle!!

You should really try thinking for yourself for a change. You're really not that dumb of a person, howie.
 

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Incredibly dishonest as usual. That tweet gives the impression Trump is supporting the rally, when in fact he's warned his supporters not to attend saying "It's a trap". In fact, everyone on right wing social media that I've been reading has been warning not to attend for weeks, saying exactly the same thing. Oher than the families of the political prisoners being held, antifa & assorted leftists posing at Trump supporters, I can't imagine who would be attending this thing after all the warnings not to go?
 

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Incredibly dishonest as usual. That tweet gives the impression Trump is supporting the rally, when in fact he's warned his supporters not to attend saying "It's a trap". In fact, everyone on right wing social media that I've been reading has been warning not to attend for weeks, saying exactly the same thing. Oher than the families of the political prisoners being held, antifa & assorted leftists posing at Trump supporters, I can't imagine who would be attending this thing after all the warnings not to go?
Why does he have to tell his supporters not to go?
That's basically saying your supporters are treasonous idiots.
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Why does he have to tell his supporters not to go?
That's basically saying your supporters are treasonous idiots.
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Telling his supporters not to go is now a bad thing? It’s almost as if you extreme lefties can’t be happy. Almost.
 

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Telling his supporters not to go is now a bad thing? It’s almost as if you extreme lefties can’t be happy. Almost.
Where tf did trump tell his supporters not to go? Other than CRG fantasy land?
 

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Why does he have to tell his supporters not to go?
That's basically saying your supporters are treasonous idiots.
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He is telling them not to go, because while we were formerly a nation that honored peaceful protests (unlike the summer of love protests of 2020) we now have a corrupt justice system that has been weaponized by the left for political purposes. He is afraid supporters will be set up for confrontation by the left and then arrested. The FBI has done this a number of times now against Trump supporters.
 

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Incredibly dishonest as usual. That tweet gives the impression Trump is supporting the rally, when in fact he's warned his supporters not to attend saying "It's a trap". In fact, everyone on right wing social media that I've been reading has been warning not to attend for weeks, saying exactly the same thing. Oher than the families of the political prisoners being held, antifa & assorted leftists posing at Trump supporters, I can't imagine who would be attending this thing after all the warnings not to go?
He had been ignoring it. Which was good. Now 48 hours before the rally he issues this statement of solidarity with the rioters. It's obvious why to anyone who's not a fool or a blind shill.
 

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That's where they had no guns and voted on the certification a few hours later, right?

We almost lost the country here folks, LMAO!
 

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So angry. Take a deep breath. Democrats voted not to certify in 2000 and 2016. So? There is a constitutional process. The 1/6 riot was never going to have any effect.
Revisionist history.

The house members challenged, but there was never a Senator to challenge so no votes were ever taken. No Democrats ever voted to not certify. Semantics do count.
 

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Revisionist history.

The house members challenged, but there was never a Senator to challenge so no votes were ever taken. No Democrats ever voted to not certify. Semantics do count.
So it’s completely fine that house Democrats “challenged” but Senators doing so threatens our democracy.

I’ll grant you your semantics. 1/6 was never going to change the results of the election. Even if some procedural technicality could have been used, scotus would never go along without any evidence, and even if they did, without proving their case in court, the American public would never allow it. The whole country would have been on fire with riots. It would take resistance to a whole new level. It is just not possible. Prove your case in court or step aside. And that’s what happened. 1/6 was successful as far as I can tell. Changed nothing except delaying the vote and making their voices heard. Congrats guys.
 




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