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Meet the members of the House committee investigating the January 6 insurrection​



Bennie Thompson, chairman



Bennie Thompson, chairman

Democrat – Mississippi’s 2nd District

Serving in the House for a fifteenth term, since 1993

Other committees: Homeland Security

Thompson is also chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, and worked with the panel’s top Republican, Rep. John Katko of New York, to reach a compromise behind the legislation that would have created an independent commission to investigate the January 6 riot. That legislation passed the House but was killed in the Senate. Thompson has built much of his congressional career on the Homeland Security panel, defined by the fallout from devastating events like Hurricane Katrina and the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.



Pete Aguilar



Pete Aguilar

Democrat – California’s 31st District

Serving in the House for a fourth term, since 2015

Other committees: Appropriations; House Administration

Aguilar was first elected to Congress in 2014, after serving as mayor of Redlands, California. He told CNN earlier this month members of the committee are united in following the truth and not letting politics dictate how it pursues its investigation. “I don’t get the sense that my colleagues worry this is going to be a circus,” Aguilar said.



Liz Cheney



Liz Cheney

Republican – Wyoming’s At-Large District

Serving in the House for a third term, since 2017

Other committees: Armed Services

Cheney was formerly the No. 3 member of House Republican leadership before a very public break with Trump following his role in inciting the January 6 riot. Cheney was one of 10 House Republicans who voted to impeach Trump earlier this year and has been an outspoken critic of both the former President and GOP lawmakers who support his “Big Lie” about the 2020 election. She was ousted from her leadership position in May.



Zoe Lofgren



Zoe Lofgren

Democrat – California’s 19th District

Serving in the House for a fourteenth term, since 1995

Other committees: House Administration; Judiciary; Science, Space and Technology

Lofgren has the unique distinction of having connections to all four presidential impeachment investigations of the modern era, serving as a staffer to Rep. Don Edwards, a member of the House Judiciary Committee, in 1974 during Richard Nixon’s impeachment, before being elected to the same seat two decades later. Lofgren was an impeachment manager for Trump’s first impeachment trial in 2020 – though not his second in 2021 – and has been a longtime member of the influential Judiciary Committee, including during Bill Clinton’s impeachment.



Elaine Luria



Elaine Luria

Democrat – Virginia’s 2nd District

Serving in the House for a second term, since 2019

Other committees: Armed Services; Veterans’ Affairs; Homeland Security

Luria served two decades in the Navy before winning a competitive election for her seat in 2018, flipping the district to Democratic control. “The goal was never to make this partisan,” she told CNN earlier this month after being named to the select committee. “We’re looking at this like the 9/11 commission. … This is about protecting our democracy.”



Stephanie Murphy



Stephanie Murphy

Democrat – Florida’s 7th District

Serving in the House for a third term, since 2017

Other committees: Ways and Means; Armed Services

Murphy is seen as a moderate and a rising star in Florida Democratic politics, who earlier this year announced she would not run for a competitive US Senate seat in her state. Before coming to Congress, she served as a national security specialist in the office of the Secretary of Defense.



Jamie Raskin



Jamie Raskin

Democrat – Maryland’s 8th District

Serving in the House for a third term, since 2017

Other committees: Judiciary; Oversight and Reform; House Administration; Rules

A constitutional law professor at American University, Raskin was a central figure in Trump’s second impeachment trial earlier this year where he was Democrats’ lead impeachment manager. His emotional testimony during the trial was a defining characteristic of Democrats’ case against Trump, and he repeatedly cited his and his family’s experience on January 6, when his daughter was forced into hiding in the Capitol, to underscore the seriousness of the insurrection.



Adam Schiff



Adam Schiff

Democrat – California’s 28th District

Serving in the House for an eleventh term, since 2001

Other committees: Intelligence

The chairman of the influential House Intelligence Committee, Schiff was the lead impeachment manager for Trump’s first impeachment trial in 2020. As Intel chairman he also oversaw multiple high-profile hearings during the impeachment proceedings featuring damning testimony over the former President’s attempt to find dirt on then presidential candidate Joe Biden.

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Trump Pressed Justice Dept. to Declare Election Results Corrupt, Notes Show​

“Leave the rest to me” and to congressional allies, the former president is said to have told top law enforcement officials.
Updated 12:09 p.m. ET
WASHINGTON — President Donald J. Trump pressed top Justice Department officials late last year to declare that the election was corrupt even though they had found no instances of widespread fraud, so that he and his allies in Congress could use the assertion to try to overturn the results, according to new documents provided to lawmakers and obtained by The New York Times.
The demands were an extraordinary instance of a president interfering with an agency that is typically more independent from the White House to advance his personal agenda. They are also the latest example of Mr. Trump’s wide-ranging campaign during his final weeks in office to delegitimize the election results.
The exchange unfolded during a phone call on Dec. 27 in which Mr. Trump pressed the acting attorney general at the time, Jeffrey A. Rosen, and his deputy, Richard P. Donoghue, on voter fraud claims that the department had disproved. Mr. Donoghue warned that the department had no power to change the outcome of the election. Mr. Trump replied that he did not expect that, according to notes Mr. Donoghue took memorializing the conversation.
“Just say that the election was corrupt + leave the rest to me” and to congressional allies, Mr. Donoghue wrote in summarizing Mr. Trump’s response.

Mr. Trump did not name the lawmakers, but at other points during the call, he mentioned Representative Jim Jordan of Ohio, whom he described as a “fighter”; Representative Scott Perry of Pennsylvania, who at the time promoted the idea that the election was stolen from Mr. Trump; and Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, whom Mr. Trump praised for “getting to bottom of things.”
The notes connect Mr. Trump’s allies in Congress with his campaign to pressure Justice Department officials to help undermine, or even nullify, the election results.

Mr. Jordan ultimately voted to overturn the election results in key states, but has downplayed his role in the president’s pressure campaign. “Congressman Jordan did not, has not, and would not pressure anyone at the Justice Department about the 2020 election,” said his spokesman, Russell Dye. “He continues to agree with President Trump that it is perfectly appropriate to raise concerns about election integrity.”

Mr. Perry and Mr. Johnson did not immediately respond to requests for comment. Mr. Perry has continued to assert Mr. Trump won, but has not been tied directly to the White House effort to keep him in office. And Mr. Johnson, whom Mr. Trump recently endorsed as he weighs whether to seek a third term, maintains that it is reasonable to have questions about the integrity of the election, though he has recognized Joseph R. Biden Jr. as president.
The Justice Department provided Mr. Donoghue’s notes to the House Oversight and Reform Committee, which is investigating the Trump administration’s efforts to unlawfully reverse the election results.

Typically, the department has fought to keep secret any accounts of private discussions between a president and his cabinet to avoid setting a precedent that would prevent officials in future administrations from candidly advising presidents out of concern that their conversations would later be made public.
But handing over the notes to Congress is part of a pattern of allowing scrutiny of Mr. Trump’s efforts to overturn the election. The Biden Justice Department also told Mr. Rosen, Mr. Donoghue and other former officials this week that they could provide unrestricted testimony to investigators with the House Oversight and Reform and the Senate Judiciary Committees.



Richard P. Donoghue, the Justice Department’s No. 2 official, pushed back on Mr. Trump’s allegations of election fraud in Georgia, Michigan, Nevada and Arizona.Credit...Demetrius Freeman for The New York Times
The department reasoned that congressional investigators were examining potential wrongdoing by a sitting president, an extraordinary circumstance, according to letters sent to the former officials. Because executive privilege is meant to benefit the country, rather than the president as an individual, invoking it over Mr. Trump’s efforts to push his personal agenda would be inappropriate, the department concluded.
“These handwritten notes show that President Trump directly instructed our nation’s top law enforcement agency to take steps to overturn a free and fair election in the final days of his presidency,” Representative Carolyn B. Maloney, Democrat of New York and chairwoman of the House Oversight and Reform Committee, said in a statement.
Mr. Trump’s conversation with Mr. Rosen and Mr. Donoghue reflected his single-minded focus on overturning the election results. At one point, Mr. Trump claimed voter fraud in Georgia, Michigan, Nevada and Arizona, which he called “corrupted elections.” Mr. Donoghue pushed back.
“Much of the info you’re getting is false,” Mr. Donoghue said, adding that the department had conducted “dozens of investigations, hundreds of interviews” and had not found evidence to support his claims. “We look at allegations but they don’t pan out,” the officials told Mr. Trump, according to the notes.

The department found that the error rate of ballot counting in Michigan was 0.0063 percent, not the 68 percent that the president asserted; it did not find evidence of a conspiracy theory that an employee in Pennsylvania had tampered with ballots; and after examining video and interviewing witnesses, it found no evidence of ballot fraud in Fulton County, Ga., according to the notes.
Mr. Trump, undeterred, brushed off the department’s findings. “Ok fine — but what about the others?” Mr. Donoghue wrote in his notes describing the president’s remarks. Mr. Trump asked Mr. Donoghue to travel to Fulton County to verify signatures on ballots.
The people “saying that the election isn’t corrupt are corrupt,” Mr. Trump told the officials, adding that they needed to act. “Not much time left.”
At another point, Mr. Donoghue said that the department could quickly verify or disprove the assertion that more ballots were cast in Pennsylvania than there are voters.
“Should be able to check on that quickly, but understand that the D.O.J. can’t and won’t snap its fingers and change the outcome of the election, doesn’t work that way,” Mr. Donoghue wrote in his notes.
The officials also told Mr. Trump that the Justice Department had no evidence to support a lawsuit regarding the election results. “We are not in a position based on the evidence,” they said. “We can only act on the actual evidence developed.”
Mr. Trump castigated the officials, saying that “thousands of people called” their local U.S. attorney’s offices to complain about the election and that “nobody trusts the F.B.I.” He said that “people are angry — blaming D.O.J. for inaction.”

“You guys may not be following the internet the way I do,” Mr. Trump said, according to the document.
In a moment of foreshadowing, Mr. Trump said, “people tell me Jeff Clark is great, I should put him in,” referring to the acting chief of the Justice Department’s civil division, who had also encouraged department officials to intervene in the election. “People want me to replace D.O.J. leadership.”
“You should have the leadership you want,” Mr. Donoghue replied. But it “won’t change the dept’s position.”
Mr. Donoghue and Mr. Rosen did not know that Mr. Perry had introduced Mr. Clark and Mr. Trump. Exactly one week later, they would be forced to fight Mr. Clark for their jobs in an Oval Office showdown.
During the call, Mr. Trump also told the Justice Department officials to “figure out what to do” with Hunter Biden, Mr. Biden’s son. “People will criticize the D.O.J. if he’s not investigated for real,” he told them, violating longstanding guidelines against White House intervention in criminal investigations or other law enforcement actions.
Two days after the phone call with Mr. Trump, Mr. Donoghue took notes of a meeting between Justice Department officials: Mr. Trump’s chief of staff, Mark Meadows; the White House counsel, Pat Cipollone; and the White House deputy counsel Patrick Philbin met to discuss a conspiracy theory known as Italygate, which asserts without evidence that people in Italy used military technology to remotely tamper with voting machines in the United States.
The Justice Department officials told the White House that they had assigned someone to look into the matter, according to the notes and a person briefed on the meeting. They did not mention that the department was looking into the theory to debunk it, the person said.
 









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Jimbo Jordan the chronic masturbator caught flogging the bishop on Jan 6. Jimbo repent!!
 



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Lawyers sanctioned for 'conspiracy theory' election fraud lawsuit

Lawyers who attempted a class action lawsuit claiming voter fraud in the 2020 election were sanctioned by a federal judge in Colorado on Wednesday for the frivolous, meritless case, a major condemnation of pro-Donald Trump allies' attempts to use the courts to vet right-wing conspiracies.

The attorneys -- Gary D. Fielder and Ernest John Walker -- that filed the election lawsuit in late December 2020 in Colorado federal court now must pay attorneys fees for Facebook, Dominion Voting Systems, the states of Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia and Wisconsin, and the non-profit Center for Tech and Civic Life, all of which were named as defendants in the lawsuit, Magistrate Judge N. Reid Neureiter ruled.

Neureiter wrote a scathing 68-page opinion condemning the post-election lawsuit, calling it an "enormous conspiracy theory" and potentially defamatory. The lawsuit had no lawyers or experts that were able to support the claims, the judge noted.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/04/politics/lawyers-colorado-2020-election/index.html
 



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Lawyers sanctioned for 'conspiracy theory' election fraud lawsuit

Lawyers who attempted a class action lawsuit claiming voter fraud in the 2020 election were sanctioned by a federal judge in Colorado on Wednesday for the frivolous, meritless case, a major condemnation of pro-Donald Trump allies' attempts to use the courts to vet right-wing conspiracies.

The attorneys -- Gary D. Fielder and Ernest John Walker -- that filed the election lawsuit in late December 2020 in Colorado federal court now must pay attorneys fees for Facebook, Dominion Voting Systems, the states of Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia and Wisconsin, and the non-profit Center for Tech and Civic Life, all of which were named as defendants in the lawsuit, Magistrate Judge N. Reid Neureiter ruled.

Neureiter wrote a scathing 68-page opinion condemning the post-election lawsuit, calling it an "enormous conspiracy theory" and potentially defamatory. The lawsuit had no lawyers or experts that were able to support the claims, the judge noted.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/04/politics/lawyers-colorado-2020-election/index.html
A "scathing 68-page opinion condemning the post-election lawsuit, calling it an 'enormous conspiracy theory' and potentially defamatory" all for simply not having standing in the case? Or did they miss the filing deadline? Either way, it sounds a little overboard to me. :rolleyes:
 






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The republic wasn’t saved because Pence certified the election.
 

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Trump Told Pence They Wouldn’t Be Friends Anymore If the V.P. Didn’t Overturn the Election

In the days following the January 6 attack on the Capitol, a narrative emerged in which Donald Trump’s longtime footstool, Mike Pence, was hailed as something of a hero for refusing to overturn the results of the 2020 election. Despite relentless pressure from the then president to block Joe Biden’s electoral win, which entailed “alternately cajoling and browbeating” the V.P. and telling him, “You can either go down in history as a patriot, or you can go down in history as a pussy,” Pence officially certified the results following a short interlude in which Trump’s supporters threatened to kill him.

When it apparently became clear to Pence that he couldn’t, in fact, overturn the election results, he still reportedly went to great lengths to explain to Trump that he very much wanted to be a good little solider, saying, “I’ve done everything I could and then some to find a way around this.” That obsequiousness, sans action, was obviously not good enough for Trump, who had also tried to convince Pence by appealing to what he believed was everyone’s secret desire to be an authoritarian dictator.

“If these people say you had the power, wouldn’t you want to?” Trump asked, apparently referring to the MAGA crowd assembled on Pennsylvania Avenue. “I wouldn’t want any one person to have that authority,” Pence responded. “But wouldn’t it be almost cool to have that power?” Trump asked, again betraying his admiration for autocrats. It was after Pence remained firm, according to Woodward and Costa, that Trump resorted to schoolyard threats.

“You don’t understand, Mike,” Trump said. “You can do this. I don’t want to be your friend anymore if you don’t do this.” The following day, on the morning of January 6, he reportedly called Pence and taunted, “If you don’t do it, I picked the wrong man four years ago,” adding, “You’re going to wimp out.” It was apparently some time after that that Trump tried the “pussy” line on Pence, which obviously didn’t have the effect he’d hoped.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/09/donald-trump-mike-pence-electoral-college-friends
 

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Trump Told Pence They Wouldn’t Be Friends Anymore If the V.P. Didn’t Overturn the Election

In the days following the January 6 attack on the Capitol, a narrative emerged in which Donald Trump’s longtime footstool, Mike Pence, was hailed as something of a hero for refusing to overturn the results of the 2020 election. Despite relentless pressure from the then president to block Joe Biden’s electoral win, which entailed “alternately cajoling and browbeating” the V.P. and telling him, “You can either go down in history as a patriot, or you can go down in history as a pussy,” Pence officially certified the results following a short interlude in which Trump’s supporters threatened to kill him.

When it apparently became clear to Pence that he couldn’t, in fact, overturn the election results, he still reportedly went to great lengths to explain to Trump that he very much wanted to be a good little solider, saying, “I’ve done everything I could and then some to find a way around this.” That obsequiousness, sans action, was obviously not good enough for Trump, who had also tried to convince Pence by appealing to what he believed was everyone’s secret desire to be an authoritarian dictator.

“If these people say you had the power, wouldn’t you want to?” Trump asked, apparently referring to the MAGA crowd assembled on Pennsylvania Avenue. “I wouldn’t want any one person to have that authority,” Pence responded. “But wouldn’t it be almost cool to have that power?” Trump asked, again betraying his admiration for autocrats. It was after Pence remained firm, according to Woodward and Costa, that Trump resorted to schoolyard threats.

“You don’t understand, Mike,” Trump said. “You can do this. I don’t want to be your friend anymore if you don’t do this.” The following day, on the morning of January 6, he reportedly called Pence and taunted, “If you don’t do it, I picked the wrong man four years ago,” adding, “You’re going to wimp out.” It was apparently some time after that that Trump tried the “pussy” line on Pence, which obviously didn’t have the effect he’d hoped.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/09/donald-trump-mike-pence-electoral-college-friends
Trump has friends?
 


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Fool2. Not just an Expert Economist. Also a Constitutional Scholar.
Ok. So Pence refuses to certify. Tell me the path to Trump remaining president oh wise constitutional scholar.
 

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Are we talking when everyone went to bed on election night knowing Trump had won, and then when you awoke from your sleep.....................
 

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Ok. So Pence refuses to certify. Tell me the path to Trump remaining president oh wise constitutional scholar.
Congress doesn't certify the Electoral College. The House of Representatives decides who wins each state's electors. The GQP controls more state delegations. President Trump is re-elected. Which was Trump's goal. Thankfully he's an idiot and the best he could find to help was Rudy and Sydney Kraaken.

This time. Next time, they'll cut it off at the pass and just have GQP state legislatures in GA, AZ etc. declare fraud, take over the election certification and declare Trump the winner from the jump. Less messy. You'll cheer it on.
 

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Congress doesn't certify the Electoral College. The House of Representatives decides who wins each state's electors. The GQP controls more state delegations. President Trump is re-elected. Which was Trump's goal. Thankfully he's an idiot and the best he could find to help was Rudy and Sydney Kraaken.

This time. Next time, they'll cut it off at the pass and just have GQP state legislatures in GA, AZ etc. declare fraud, take over the election certification and declare Trump the winner from the jump. Less messy.
This is correct, and was the plan.
 

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Congress doesn't certify the Electoral College. The House of Representatives decides who wins each state's electors. The GQP controls more state delegations. President Trump is re-elected. Which was Trump's goal. Thankfully he's an idiot and the best he could find to help was Rudy and Sydney Kraaken.

This time. Next time, they'll cut it off at the pass and just have GQP state legislatures in GA, AZ etc. declare fraud, take over the election certification and declare Trump the winner from the jump. Less messy. You'll cheer it on.
Oh my. You are a looney bird.
 






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