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http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2013/aug/29/rebels-implode-season-opening-walloping-minnesota/

Bobby Hauck looked up at the scoreboard at one point in the fourth quarter Thursday night and saw his Rebels leading total yardage by nearly 200 yards and down more than 20 where it counts.

“Statistics are irrelevant,” said UNLV’s coach, and he has a 51-23 loss to Minnesota at TCF Bank Stadium to prove it.

New year, same mistakes and painfully familiar result. UNLV’s 2013 season started with a bang and crashed with a thud before the fourth quarter, leaving the Rebels to climb their airplane steps for a 23rd straight trip home as losers.

In the second quarter there were many plays that seemed so important at the time. A dropped pass. A questionable play call on second down. Those are things worth dissecting in a close game but they matter not in a beat down like the one Minnesota (1-0) laid on UNLV (0-1).

“The errors exploded into big plays,” said sophomore quarterback Nick Sherry, who finished 35-of-50 for 226 yards and a pair of both touchdowns and interceptions.

UNLV’s defense, so maligned over the past few years, was good. Not great but good enough to stay in the game, which at this stage is all you can ask of that group. They showed promise..

But for every positive thing like that UNLV tossed on one side of a see-saw it heaped even more negative on the other side until the whole thing catapulted the team back to Las Vegas.

After Cornett’s score, kicker Nolan Kohorst’s extra-point attempt was blocked. After Sherry’s great fourth-down touchdown pass to Devante Davis in the second quarter, freshman Nicolai Bornand kicked the ball out of bounds.

Over the final 31:45, the Rebels were outscored 41-10 and the defense was only responsible for 20 of those. Even 14 of those points were meaningless to the result.
 

"On Monday, Hauck called the low number of live reps for UNLV this fall a calculated risk designed to keep the team healthy. The decision to use only non-starters on special teams units, he said after the game Thursday, was also a risk."

That's an understatement. Yikes.
 

"On Monday, Hauck called the low number of live reps for UNLV this fall a calculated risk designed to keep the team healthy. The decision to use only non-starters on special teams units, he said after the game Thursday, was also a risk."

That's an understatement. Yikes.

No kidding.
 

..and here's the Review Journal's take on the game.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/sports...v-errors-help-gophers-turn-2013-debut-runaway

MINNEAPOLIS — UNLV coach Bobby Hauck looked at the scoreboard at one point in the second half and saw his team had outgained Minnesota 420 yards to 234.

By those numbers, the game shouldn’t have been close.

And it wasn’t.

But it was a runaway in favor of the Golden Gophers, who took advantage of a UNLV special teams performance that couldn’t have been more egregious..
 

Can't fathom he would've pointed that out to the media himself.
 



Last night's game reminds me of the 'Run & Shoot' games from the Wacker era. Our offense would put of fantastic numbers, but we would still lose by 20-30pts. It doesn't matter if you move up and down the field, if you can't finish a drive and score points. Even worse is when mistakes get compounded by big plays by the other team. How many times have I observed it happen to us. It was nice to see our Defense and Special Teams do it to the opponent. Perhaps this "speed & execution" thing is a step in the right direction.
 

On a positive side for UNLV, I thought their QB played a pretty good game. He was cool almost the entire game and took what the Gophers' secondary gave him. I heard Jay Sawvel (Gophers Secondary coach) on the radio postgame and he was really pleased with how the secondary played as they wanted to give up the short passes and tackle well.
 

"On Monday, Hauck called the low number of live reps for UNLV this fall a calculated risk designed to keep the team healthy. The decision to use only non-starters on special teams units, he said after the game Thursday, was also a risk."

That's an understatement. Yikes.
Wow! I wonder if Kill noticed that and took particular advantage or if the Gophers were just that much more prepared on ST.
 



Wow! I wonder if Kill noticed that and took particular advantage or if the Gophers were just that much more prepared on ST.

It is the second one. Gophers special teams was filled with starters and executed. UNLV's was filled with backups that did a terrible job for the most part throughout the entire game. If you remove the kickers special teams was a high point in this game for the Gophers.
 

It is the second one. Gophers special teams was filled with starters and executed. UNLV's was filled with backups that did a terrible job for the most part throughout the entire game. If you remove the kickers special teams was a high point in this game for the Gophers.

IF I was couching UNLV I wouldn't have a single starter on special teams for these games either. No realistic way they are going to win against the B1G on the road...but healthy going into the MWC and they have a chance to not finish dead last with this squad. Play your starters on special teams then...save them now.
 

IF I was coaching UNLV I wouldn't have a single starter on special teams for these games either. No realistic way they are going to win against the B1G on the road...but healthy going into the MWC and they have a chance to not finish dead last with this squad. Play your starters on special teams then...save them now.

Maybe not having a "single" starter play was little drastic, but had that thought myself. Hauck REALLY needs to win 6-7 games this year to comeback next year. Not losing starters last night was probably of one his top priorities. Can't imagine his two or three deep guys could be starting for a whole lot of other schools in the country.

That said, wouldn't be to surprised to see him bend a little a make a run at Arizona next Saturday in front of a home crowd.
 

Wow! I wonder if Kill noticed that and took particular advantage or if the Gophers were just that much more prepared on ST.

The real credit should go to Sid! Since he has taken over as the special teams coach there has been a noticeable improvement.
 



Last night's game reminds me of the 'Run & Shoot' games from the Wacker era. Our offense would put of fantastic numbers, but we would still lose by 20-30pts. It doesn't matter if you move up and down the field, if you can't finish a drive and score points. Even worse is when mistakes get compounded by big plays by the other team. How many times have I observed it happen to us. It was nice to see our Defense and Special Teams do it to the opponent. Perhaps this "speed & execution" thing is a step in the right direction.

I miss the run and shoot.
 

Maybe not having a "single" starter play was little drastic, but had that thought myself. Hauck REALLY needs to win 6-7 games this year to comeback next year. Not losing starters last night was probably of one his top priorities. Can't imagine his two or three deep guys could be starting for a whole lot of other schools in the country.

That said, wouldn't be to surprised to see him bend a little a make a run at Arizona next Saturday in front of a home crowd.

I'm not sure if he has to win that many.
 



I'm not sure if he has to win that many.

Local columnist the other day (before the Gopher game) said he thinks Hauck stays if he even wins 4 games, citing that you can't just keep switching coaches and staffs every 3-4 years. He's right.

UNLV may not be too bad this year. It'll be interesting to see how they do
 

Local columnist the other day (before the Gopher game) said he thinks Hauck stays if he even wins 4 games, citing that you can't just keep switching coaches and staffs every 3-4 years. He's right.

UNLV may not be too bad this year. It'll be interesting to see how they do

Wouldn't disagree with you, or the columnist, that normally a coach needs at least 4 -5 years to get things done, but there has to be some progress and hope. Four wins this season would give him a 4- Year record of 10-40. It wouldn't be a firing, it would be a mercy killing.

That said if the Offense in the opener wasn't a mirage and the kicker can get a little better 5-6 wins with that schedule seems very possible. From 9/14 to 10/12 they play Central Michigan, Western Illinois, New Mexico and Hawaii. Only New Mexico is a road game and isn't that the last place they won on the road?

Now if they lose to Arizona (hope they don't), beat those 4 and then lose out the rest of the season, have to respectfully disagree with the columnist. He's gone and that last Home Game against San Diego State could be played without anybody sitting on the Home side. If he wouldn't be fired then it would confirm that nobody out there gives a damn about Rebel football. Something I know you've thought about in the past.

Maybe he could get by with a victory against Arizona and then winning his last three. Boy, I'd like to read the local papers though after that 7 game losing streak starting with Central Michigan.

Wonder what odds they would post for Hauck being retained after that.
 


Wouldn't disagree with you, or the columnist, that normally a coach needs at least 4 -5 years to get things done, but there has to be some progress and hope. Four wins this season would give him a 4- Year record of 10-40. It wouldn't be a firing, it would be a mercy killing.

That said if the Offense in the opener wasn't a mirage and the kicker can get a little better 5-6 wins with that schedule seems very possible. From 9/14 to 10/12 they play Central Michigan, Western Illinois, New Mexico and Hawaii. Only New Mexico is a road game and isn't that the last place they won on the road?

Now if they lose to Arizona (hope they don't), beat those 4 and then lose out the rest of the season, have to respectfully disagree with the columnist. He's gone and that last Home Game against San Diego State could be played without anybody sitting on the Home side. If he wouldn't be fired then it would confirm that nobody out there gives a damn about Rebel football. Something I know you've thought about in the past.

Maybe he could get by with a victory against Arizona and then winning his last three. Boy, I'd like to read the local papers though after that 7 game losing streak starting with Central Michigan.

Wonder what odds they would post for Hauck being retained after that.

Four wins would double last years total! Major improvement!!

All kidding aside, it probably depends on the on-field product as much as the record. No shocker. What about this for a completely idiotic thought?; maybe UNLV isn't that bad and the win Thursday was a nice solid win?

I think they'll win some games, maybe even surprise a few people. Beating Nevada (first tear without Ault) would go a long ways, that's for sure. I'm pulling for Hauck, I like his history and it would be nice if Rebel football were halfway relevant for a change.

Oh, the kicker should be fine. I seem to recall reading that hell become the schools all-time leading scorer sometime this season.

Unlikely but I may even check out that Arizona game next week, and wear the scarlet and gray, who knows?!
 

Four wins would double last years total! Major improvement!!

All kidding aside, it probably depends on the on-field product as much as the record. No shocker. What about this for a completely idiotic thought?; maybe UNLV isn't that bad and the win Thursday was a nice solid win?

I think they'll win some games, maybe even surprise a few people. Beating Nevada (first tear without Ault) would go a long ways, that's for sure. I'm pulling for Hauck, I like his history and it would be nice if Rebel football were halfway relevant for a change.

Oh, the kicker should be fine. I seem to recall reading that hell become the schools all-time leading scorer sometime this season.

Unlikely but I may even check out that Arizona game next week, and wear the scarlet and gray, who knows?!

You know, after watching a LOT of 2013 College Football already, I've seen a lot of teams that look worse than UNLV and not just because of the competition. Don't want to repeat myself, but if they can tighten-up on Special Teams, and play the way they did Thursday night all season long they should get those 6-7 wins.

Yeah, go on out there and cheer on the Runnin' Rebels. Nice little stadium and they surely would appreciate the support!:drink:
 

Wouldn't disagree with you, or the columnist, that normally a coach needs at least 4 -5 years to get things done, but there has to be some progress and hope. Four wins this season would give him a 4- Year record of 10-40. It wouldn't be a firing, it would be a mercy killing.

That said if the Offense in the opener wasn't a mirage and the kicker can get a little better 5-6 wins with that schedule seems very possible. From 9/14 to 10/12 they play Central Michigan, Western Illinois, New Mexico and Hawaii. Only New Mexico is a road game and isn't that the last place they won on the road?

Now if they lose to Arizona (hope they don't), beat those 4 and then lose out the rest of the season, have to respectfully disagree with the columnist. He's gone and that last Home Game against San Diego State could be played without anybody sitting on the Home side. If he wouldn't be fired then it would confirm that nobody out there gives a damn about Rebel football. Something I know you've thought about in the past.

Maybe he could get by with a victory against Arizona and then winning his last three. Boy, I'd like to read the local papers though after that 7 game losing streak starting with Central Michigan.

Wonder what odds they would post for Hauck being retained after that?

Well they got their 4th win last night over Hawaii. Only 22,000 showed-up, but hopefully they can sneak another win or two out of the rest of the year. Maybe that will get people to make the drive out to Sam Boyd.

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=332852439&confId=17
 


Well they got their 4th win last night over Hawaii. Only 22,000 showed-up, but hopefully they can sneak another win or two out of the rest of the year. Maybe that will get people to make the drive out to Sam Boyd.

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=332852439&confId=17

I was there. The UNLV athletic dept was hoping for 25K, but didn't make it, obviously. My unscientific estimation is that 8 or 9K were Hawaii fans. Las Vegas has a very strong Hawaiian community and they turn out to support the U of H. There is again talk of an on-campus stadium, but I think they (UNLV and business officials) indicated that it will be 3 years minimum to be funded, and then more time to be built. If I were a Hawaii fan I would be furious - stupid penalties (taunting, delays of game, lining up offsides, illegal participation), dropped passes, disorganization in getting units on and off the field which cost them timeouts, a real nightmare.
 

I was there. The UNLV athletic dept was hoping for 25K, but didn't make it, obviously. My unscientific estimation is that 8 or 9K were Hawaii fans. Las Vegas has a very strong Hawaiian community and they turn out to support the U of H. There is again talk of an on-campus stadium, but I think they (UNLV and business officials) indicated that it will be 3 years minimum to be funded, and then more time to be built. If I were a Hawaii fan I would be furious - stupid penalties (taunting, delays of game, lining up offsides, illegal participation), dropped passes, disorganization in getting units on and off the field which cost them timeouts, a real nightmare.

We were there for a Hawaii/ Runnin' Rebels game back when the Warriors were good. LOTS of cops. LOTS of booze and LOTS of fights. Bet the UNLV Officials don't miss those days.

We head out to Nevada 2-3 times a year. Mostly Vegas, every couple of years to Reno/Tahoe. Been following the stadium deal from a distance. A LOT of money for something that the casinos have shown not much interest in. Too bad about the distance to Sam Boyd. Very nice little stadium and a good place to see a game.
 

Bobby Hauck and Jerry Kill basically have the same game plan for their respective programs, although Kill's in on a bigger stage. You build up from the ground floor and years 4-5 is where you see the real results.
 

Bobby Hauck and Jerry Kill basically have the same game plan for their respective programs, although Kill's in on a bigger stage. You build up from the ground floor and years 4-5 is where you see the real results.

Let's hope. I think that Hauck will be back next year, but his problems will persist. IMHO several of his better players are seniors. They lose 4 or 5 in a row to start next year and the vultures will be circling. That combined with a college president who is not sold on him could spell departure.
 

Let's hope. I think that Hauck will be back next year, but his problems will persist. IMHO several of his better players are seniors. They lose 4 or 5 in a row to start next year and the vultures will be circling. That combined with a college president who is not sold on him could spell departure.

They've got some winnable games left on the schedule, no doubt about it. I hope he makes it but who knows. Actually, after Fresno this weekend, you could make a case that they should be in every game, even up in Reno for the battle for the Cannon.

Wouldn't it be something if they reeled off another 3-4 wins? Unlikely, but possible
 

Let's hope. I think that Hauck will be back next year, but his problems will persist. IMHO several of his better players are seniors. They lose 4 or 5 in a row to start next year and the vultures will be circling. That combined with a college president who is not sold on him could spell departure.

I think Hauck is a pretty fine coach. They blew a couple of winnable games last year (one to FCS Northern Arizona) that turned up the heat on him a bit sooner than expected but I believe they have more wins in them this year.
 




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