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Is Joe a good outside shooter? From watching his highlights on youtube, I really couldn't get a good grasp.
From what I have read, he has a very solid mid range game. 3 isn't completely there yet.
However, his form is very good. His only issue is that he catches the ball, and brings it way down and then starts his shot. If he could start his shot where he catches the ball (i.e. a shorter motion) he'd be a much better shooter, but His mechanics seem to be all correct.
Joe is a very good athlete and much stronger than most of the High School players he faces every game. As a result, he doesn't shoot much from the outside as he can get to the hoop pretty much whenever he wants. When I have watched, he has hit some outside shots, but I wouldn't say he has a consistent jump shot at this point. He appears to be fairly solid from the free throw line, but not automatic. It will be interesting to see how his game translates to college next season. I'm confident his skills will help the team. He is a very good finisher on the break.
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Appreciate the info guys, good stuff!
Correct. Not much beyond 12 feet.
But I'll tell you what is amazing about Joe Coleman and really the whole Hopkins team. I mean, yes, he can get to the rim whenever he wants. But what is really amazing is that Hopkins is an elite team mostly because of the havoc they cause with their defense, especially the turnovers they create that are of the sort that Tom Izzo refers to as "interceptions for touchdowns." They score way too many easy buckets for most teams to be able to stay close. Of course, all of the truly elite teams do that nowadays, or try to, or at least they do so against weaker opponents. A few, like Hopkins and St. Paul Johnson, do it to you no matter who you are or how good you are.
OK, but that's still not what is really amazing about Hopkins. What's amazing is that the conventional wisdom is you need to go at least 8 or preferably 9 or even 10 deep to play a real full court blitz defense. That's how Johnson does it. But Hopkins really only goes about 6 deep nowadays. Last time I saw them the 7th man came in for the first time with about 14 minutes to play in the 2nd half. So the first 5 guys are playing about 33 minutes each and they're playing the full court D as if they were playing about 23 minutes, which is pretty much the limit for most players in that type of game plan. They, including Joe, have to be in better shape than just about anybody.
But I'll tell you what is amazing about Joe Coleman and really the whole Hopkins team. I mean, yes, he can get to the rim whenever he wants. But what is really amazing is that Hopkins is an elite team mostly because of the havoc they cause with their defense, especially the turnovers they create that are of the sort that Tom Izzo refers to as "interceptions for touchdowns." They score way too many easy buckets for most teams to be able to stay close. Of course, all of the truly elite teams do that nowadays, or try to, or at least they do so against weaker opponents. A few, like Hopkins and St. Paul Johnson, do it to you no matter who you are or how good you are.
OK, but that's still not what is really amazing about Hopkins. What's amazing is that the conventional wisdom is you need to go at least 8 or preferably 9 or even 10 deep to play a real full court blitz defense. That's how Johnson does it. But Hopkins really only goes about 6 deep nowadays. Last time I saw them the 7th man came in for the first time with about 14 minutes to play in the 2nd half. So the first 5 guys are playing about 33 minutes each and they're playing the full court D as if they were playing about 23 minutes, which is pretty much the limit for most players in that type of game plan. They, including Joe, have to be in better shape than just about anybody.