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Excluding covid -- that's my choice, I am going to do that, other people can choose to do what they choose -- the only "first three games" losses Fleck has had are Ohio State and North Carolina twice. That said, if you're being reasonable you have to go first four games for 2021, since that...

Also if that happens it means that Athan just for whatever reason really clicked strongly with Kirk C as QB coach & playcaller, and did not with Harbaugh Jr for whatever reason

Winning 10 out of 12 games is a huge deal. Say two easier nonconf "buy" games and one tougher P4 game .. so you either have to go 3-0 or 2-1 and then need 7-2 or 8-1 in conference. I don't see how any Big Ten program at Minnesota's level can get up to that consistently, without a huge increase...

Fleck has/is dealing with a few relatively different chapters/eras. The 2017-19 era, then covid year which doesn't even count in my book, then 2021-2023 and ramping up of NIL in recruiting, and now starting in 2024 is almost really a whole new thing with revenue sharing and the new Big Ten. Not...

Thanks, appreciate it! Guess the spring was all-in on Lindsey, which isn't wrong.

Bold: that's the point of a message board, my friend! :cool:

Anyone? I guess I can go try to find the spring ball thread(s)

USC last year certainly felt monumental at the time. Especially after the really sad Iowa game two weeks before. Then something clicked and changed at halftime vs Michigan. Almost could have had two top 15 (at the time) ranked wins in a row.

If they had attempted to do this as a third-party NIL deal in this new system, I believe the new clearinghouse would reject the deal. Because it would be far excessive in value.

The other bummer thing about 2021-23 seasons is that we had an easy West division, probably as easy as it was ever going to get. And all three years we fumbled a chance to win the division, via the games shown above. Which includes 2022 Purdue homecoming for me.

It's all about how you define it (Captain Obvious). My list has probably a slightly wider definition than some above, but the only main one missing is 2019 Wisc. Sorry, can't let that one go. It's not a "bad loss" but it has to be included if you widen the scope to "games you have to win...

Also, didn't the guy who recruited him here leave for Oregon? I might be making that up ...

I have no dog in this hunt and if they end up in Vegas that's great. But always seemed like Portland would be a natural place. SEA-POR rivalry strong in other sports (notably MLB, and guessing NBA again once SuperSonics are reborn), so baseball would seem another opportunity.

For those of you who followed spring ball this year: how did Dylan Wittke and Jackson Kollock look behind Lindsey? Kollock seems like an intriguing prospect: 6-4, played a large public high school in southern California, leading them to their first CIF title in 60 years as a Soph, started...

Yep, probably not going to find a more wide open site than Shingle Creek and Bass Lake. Guessing they would practically give it away, if a team was going to build a new arena or stadium there. Only thing would be if Crystal Airport would be an issue, but guessing not. MoA probably makes more...

Not going to speak for SG, but it seems his argument is that he's already excluding @OSU and @Oregon from his prediction, and really just trying to predict the remaining 10 games. Which I think is fair.

Felt like 5A was loaded last year, lot of teams going into can't remember what week but felt like lot of 6-0 and/or 7-0 teams in top 10

The Designated thing was supposed to be a way to keep walk-ons on the teams, at the same schools, without getting cut by the new roster limits. That was the whole thing. That's why the House settlement got delayed. So now they're giving them a special transfer window ... to leave those...

Cal is an interesting one. Justin Wilcox will be his 9th season as HC! Had them on a nice upward trajectory to 8-5 with a bowl win in 2019, then covid collapsed. Been a slow crawl back since covid. But last two seasons 6-7 making it to low end bowl games. Probably a make or break year for him...

Our two Minnesota football teams both will have the youngest or near youngest QB's in the league starting. Life's a craps shoot. Do we roll a 7??