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And was that best season before or after the transfer portal/NIL madness started? By my recollection it was before, when coaches were allowed to run a program the way they wanted to. Fleck's also under .500 in the Big Ten despite avoiding playing in the Big Ten East gauntlet. The comparison is...

Muss was actively recruiting the portal well before he got the USC job, and his targets remained the same from one school to the other, so he's had a lot of time to recruit. Also last year he did the same thing and they were horrific and unwatchable.

Call me crazy but if Ben has more years like last year - middle of Big Ten pack and being NIT participants - wouldnt that be about the same success that PJ has had? Lets not act like PJ is putting together world-beater rosters every year here

He's a college basketball insider - my suspicions are he's an NIL agent of some sort. He gets inside scoop on transfers and he's usually fairly accurate. Who knows how any of this NIL stuff works. Unless there is transparency I guess we will never actually know

The only positive is that if we actually have that money pocketed for a PG maybe we can get a decent replacement - or pay up for a big wing? I dont know, these are some dark times to be a Gopher fan

Yeah - 250k for his last year of eligibility. Obviously who knows if that number is right, but he's accurate for the most part with this College Free agency stuff

Yep, apparently not good enough to satisfy a guy who had to go to Howard out of high school. Or i should say - it was good enough for 10 days but cant expect these "Student Athletes" to commit for more than 10 days

He was offered 250k to stay. Per Trilly Donovan

The funny part with Payne is that everyone wants him as a rim runner, dunker shot blocker, but he sees himself as the key to an offense who deserves post touches. Will be interesting to see if he gets his wish or if enough money will convince him to play the way the Gophers wanted him to

My initial reaction this morning was that Minnesota was done as a program, but has anyone else been seeing the kids entering the portal today - so many good players leaving their teams! I am sure message boards across the country are blowing up like ours today. I dont know the answer to this...

This is also me as a tortured MN sports fan rationalizing things until Cam or Garcia leave and i lose all hope

I mean this is what i had thought too, so not really sure. The togetherness thing could have been a smokescreen for issues happening, but either way if these guys dont want to be here i'm fine ripping the bandaid off and going and finding some guys who do

Spin zone - i have been teammates with guys who have bad attitudes and it generally brings the whole team down with them. If the three sophomores were being pains in the ass/malcontents about PT and money, maybe some of the guys are glad theyre leaving and will be more likely to stay? I dont...

With the amount of other Big 10 transfers today I am feeling less bad than i was. Time to focus of the big fella from Waseca. Anyone have any scoop on his visit? Is he already here, etc. We definitely have playing time and close to home to sell

I'm concerned about Carrington's family support system if he thinks he deserved more money? Someone needs to have a talk with him

Kind of funny people were lamenting how Carrington wasnt a good player but now that he leaves they act devastated. Tough to lose an in state kid but obviously very replaceable

But how many can sustain long term success with the resources? South Carolina just lost their best player to the portal, Colorado lost 4 starters from a NCAA team to the portal, Iowa lost their arguably best player to the portal. Ace Baldwin is going to leave PSU, etc etc etc. The depressing...

Musselman would never come here - we have less than half of the NIL money Arkansas has

The thinking is that Cam would only leave if he was promised a 1st round pick. He would only be promised a pick if a team thought he could be more than a fringe NBA player. Obviously it would be much better for the program if he stays and has a great college career. But I think it adds some...

I hope we can keep Garcia, but am mentally preparing for him to leave. There is crazy money being spent in NIL and 6'10" big guys who are as quick as him dont grow on trees. No question in my mind teams are trying to tamper with him right now and lure him out.