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Correct. The numbers in the link in the very first post in this thread from the MSHSL site are adjusted for free and reduced lunch. The numbers in the table I posted are the actual, non-adjusted, enrollment numbers for the current 2024-25 school year from the department of education. So to use...

That just feels so subjective. You don't have to go back that far to when Burnsville to name one, was a powerhouse in football and hockey. And some of these schools are still powerhouses in other sports, despite the reduced lunch thing - Hopkins and Park Center in hoops.

A You mentioned Albert Lea. Albert Lea is 50.67% reduced lunch. 1196-363 shows an adjusted enrollment of 833 just doing the math. The high school league adjusted number for Albert Lea is 827. So pretty damn close. It's not an 8-12 number. That's the difference between real and adjusted numbers.

Not much of a 'state' championship with only 12-16 teams. And there will always be some issues, particularly around open enrollment. Minnetonka is the second largest school based on adjusted enrollment, and it's a wealthy district. But 25-40% of their students live outside the district and...

They're from the MN Department of Education. https://public.education.mn.gov/MDEAnalytics/DataTopic.jsp?TOPICID=2

Then you need a very strict ranking formula. No subjective committee stuff leaving out a 11-1 Boise State to get 8-4 Ole Miss in.

They do for MSHSL numbers. Not sure for the department of education. The DOE spreadsheet I copied from is ALL schools, so I had to filter out a few really large middle schools to get the high school numbers. But the intent wasn't to be exact. As I wrote, it's intended show how different the the...

I suppose for some they could. But at the same time, for last years list, White Bear separated North and South campuses on this list and now they're combined for numbers. But I think most of the larger schools are 9-12 now. Hopkins was the last big school to be 10-12 and have Junior High...

For shits and giggles, here are the ACTUAL enrollment numbers this year, as opposed to the adjusted high school league numbers. I think I filtered out any large middle and grade schools, as well as charter/online schools that have large enrollments. This is what 6A and 5A would be if they...

Exactly. I don't expect it WILL happen. I just think it SHOULD happen. It should be run like all the lower divisions of football, and like basketball. Win your conference - auto bid.

True, but Union is a tiny, tiny school, and hardly a hockey blueblood. I guess that's what I was getting at. And isn't the ECAC probably the lowest ranked of the D1 hockey conferences? Either that or Atlantic Hockey.

And Fleck manages to keep almost all of his most important talent. He's very rarely losing guys to the portal that matter. The players he wants buy into his system and what he's selling them. He may be a self-promoter, but he's been the most successful coach here in my lifetime.

Remember when Union beat the Gophers for the natty? I was upset, because I'm a Gopher fan. But if they'd have beaten UND (obviously) or Michigan or Denver, etc., it would have been a great story.

They can replace him with a young buck like Shama.

Then they should split. I'd be in favor of that. But as long as there isn't a formal split, then Florida Atlantic as a FBS school should have as much shot at the playoffs as Ohio State as an FBS school. Otherwise, why are they at the same level?

I'm not supporting "tradition." I'm supporting managing this like every other level of football and basketball does. Win your conference. Make the playoffs. I don't care one bit if that means first round blowouts. I'd still rather see Coastal Carolina get in than 4th place Mississippi State or...

I'll say it again. There should be 16 teams so we eliminate byes (which I think could be actually detrimental). ALL FBS conference champions should get an autobid, and then the rest at-large based on the rankings. Seed from there. Does that mean that the MAC and CUSA etc. champs get in? Yep...

What was the deal with this?

The big money in that state is going to BYU. That's no secret.

My bucket list college stadium oddly enough, is the Sun Bowl in El Paso.