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Pitino got an extra life by winning a game in the NCAA tournament. As dumb as that might have been, extending Johnson after this year is not even within the same stratosphere.

These DEI types really dig into bad ideas.

Humphries was the better prospect because he put up big numbers when he was 18/19. Garcia will not be a top 15 pick. Who will be better in the NBA? It's hard to say. Humphries had a nice career but Garcia is clearly a much more skilled player. Garcia's numbers this year are also considerably...

Of course we need to improve to become an elite program, but Cody Lindenberg is an awful example of that. Both of your "proof points" have very little to do with Lindenberg. He was certainly better than our other LBers and most of the players on our defense. Despite that, we still had a very...

For a 6'3" 240 lbs LB, I actually think Lindenberg moved really well. I actually think his speed led to many of his "missed tackles". Our system is especially difficult on LBers, I've been saying this for years as people hated on MSM, Thomas Barber, etc. When you play 5 DBs, your two LBers...

Ohio State has 2-3 every single year.

Ole Footsteps Falco never led his team to a Rose Bowl victory like Johnny Utah.

Sure, but isn't this the entire discussion on this thread? Some folks seem to think Ben's style would have translated to more success pre-portal and some people are arguing that it wouldn't have. It's a hypothetical - no one is arguing to have knowledge one way or another, it's impossible. As...

Why? Pre-portal a ton of players transferred out after coaching changes. That said, I just disagree with your point. I don’t see how pointing to Mashburn, Robbins, and Gabe makes a lot of sense when arguing Ben’s strength is AAU connections and a slow build. I don’t think Robbins, Mashburn or...

How would we have Hawkins? He is an addition to our program because of the new format. Why would Christie still be here? If anything, we had a better chance of keeping Christie another season because of NIL. If your argument is that Ben Johnson would be a good coach if we get to add through...

I understand everything you're saying, but I cannot think of a coach who has done a worse job at recruiting and developing HS talent. Payne is good. Carrington is not a good basketball player and he's a headcase. Olo-Joseph is fine, he is depth piece but likely not a Big 10 basketball player...

You're right, I forgot about Christie. I was kind of thinking where this team would be this year without transfers but you're right, he does deserve credit for Christie. As far as not being able to say for sure, I agree. My point was just that I have not seen any reason to believe Ben Johnson's...

As bad as Ben has been in this era, I genuinely believe he would have been worse in the pre-transfer portal/NIL era. The only reason we ever are even respectable is because we can offer good lower level guys an opportunity to get immediate PT to play in the Big 10. If Ben had to build a program...

There are worse ways to spend a year of your life than playing college football, even if it is lower level.

He had conditioning issues. It was why he was in the dog house with Fleck his FR season. It was why he lost playing time to a significantly less talented but much more reliable/hard working player like Bryce Williams.

Johnson finished the year really strong at C, I think he stays there.

Yeah, I was agreeing with you. He has the stuff you can't teach. If he can learn those things and develop, he'll be special. People have made and lost a lot of money gambling on talented bigs who need to develop, they are certainly worth the risk.

100% Spending a Saturday afternoon watching the Gophers at a packed Williams Arena with my old man and grandpa are some of my fondest memories as a kid. It is the reason I chose the U. Being from the cities, a huge part of me wanted to go elsewhere for college, but I was a Gopher.

He's the type of guy that a school like MN has to take a gamble on. If he pans out, everyone will wonder how he ended up at MN. If he doesn't pan out, everyone will wonder how anyone offered him a scholarship. He has a ton of tools but at times looks really bad.

He's a role player on a top 15 team in the country. He's been pretty good the last three games.