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No Normally, I would always cheer for the B1G team in any bowl game. However, with the expanded B1G, in a few years time it will be the equivalent of cheering for the NFC or AFC - not as special for me as the B1G is too big. I can even say I am still more likely to watch the game if it...

Never once did I say 'lesser fan'. What I said is that there tends to be a pile on of obnoxious bandwagon fans that have no affiliation with a school when it is performing well - and those will be first ones off the bandwagon when things go bad. Sorry, but in my experience I find this to be...

It is just an observation. I think most will probably agree with the Badgers as well. Before Alvarez, they were mostly tolerable. After, they have a huge bandwagon of fans that never attended Madison that are obnoxious. Not to say that the ones that attended Madison are not - but it is in a...

It is not surreal. It is our coaches quitting and the team quitting. We went into the half down 14 with 7 of those points coming on a pick 6 + XP. Not to say that we had momentum and were ready to rally back in the 2nd half - but we didn't even try. Our coaches balled up and so did the...

I think tOSU is similar to the Badgers - a ton of their vocal diehard fans have no actual connection to the university. For whatever reason, this tends to lead to more obnoxious fan bases.

Most of my interactions with Michigan fans were through work (mainly at Intel which recruited MI heavily) so these are people that actually attended and not the casual fan with no actual connection to the university. My take was that they have zero allegiance to the Big Ten overall and only...

Could be because most of their fans are from out of the area. So, make it into travel to take in 2 teams on the same trip. But outside of that, I agree with you.

Are you being serious right now? In 2018, we already had Tyler Johnson, Mo, and Bateman as recognized stars. On D, we had Winfield. I don't think anyone expected 12 wins in 2019, but the main pieces were already performing in 2018. Heck, maybe I am wrong and we will win 3 of our remaining...

In the history of Gopher football or football in general, how many times did you hear teams say that they fired a head coach too soon vs. saying that they should have acted faster? Fleck should not be fired based on the results this season - but if next year looks the same, he should be...

This is some of the worse product I have seen on the field - yes. Tim Brewster's 1st year was horrible - but even they kept it to 34-10 vs. Michigan. We are in year 7 of Fleck and this team is a huge step back from last year in every phase of the game. Brewster was a disaster for the Gophers...

Since 1991 - and the product on the field so far this year is among the worst I have seen - and that includes some incompetent squads. However, I have not seen us this bad this late in a coach's tenure with all the resources at Fleck's disposal.

Reminds me of Tim Brewster years.

I write them off because the team is the team (no breakout stars I can see upcoming) and we will not have extremely favorable schedules like we had before.

I agree with you - so, even the thought of sniffing the top 25 is nothing but a dream for the next 3 years. That is a depressing thought.

Not just PJ - I think that was the expectations of the fanbase as well. Total flop on this point.

Mason was always auditioning for tOSU. He was lazy in recruiting because he saw the cap on what we could accomplish playing off campus with just about zero support from the administration and completely lacking facilities and money for his assistants. What he was able to develop was one hell...

Maybe I am just out of touch. But, we have kids here that likely grew up in the city and have never been in a boat in their life - much less rowed one. As such, it is an outdated idea like 'Be Kind, Rewind' - maybe it connects with the kids but I don't know how. When I was in high school, our...

The feeder program really doesn't work because of the draft. I have said this many times before on this board - I think our only chance for relevance is to get an identity again. Hate on Mason all you want, but he put running backs into the NFL and our ground game was known throughout the...

You sound like a guy that just awoke from a coma that started after the Auburn win. It is who and where we are now. Chance are, no bowl game and I don't see what would get us excited about next year. What changes next year whereby we should have a better team?

I don't know if anyone knows what is Fleck's pitch to the recruits - but I would love to know it. He is not an X and O's guy (everyone admits it), he is not a great game day coach (as seen over and over), he is not a great player development coach. Not that we are in year 7 and people can see...